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the power still sucks based on what it does and where it is in the scheme of things.
it wouldn't be so bad if the thing wasn't the last power of your primary.

and to the guy who said " i don't read the boards much.."
I do, and yea, the devs do come on here and read and do stuff, but if anything they are more likely to nerf something than buff it. in this case with this power, i cant imagine how much more they could make it suck. it just seems like a mishmosh of powers with a new set name. i figure this and other issues are probably in the same bin with base construction and anything CoV...soon, if never.

only the squeeky wheels get greased, so if anyone other than me wants change, speak up.

I agree. I took it, tried it, and hated it. Too bad the dev's will never do anything with it.
It's probably because someone somewhere loves it for some weird reason and they are sadistic. You would think if someone went to the effort of posting about something being absolutely horrible, then maybe someones ears would perk up and think of a way to fix it. I know there are a few pool powers that suck, but this is supposed to be some sort of reward.

If they would only fully disclose what the drops of EVERYTHING was supposed to be, then dedicated people could check this stuff and help correct errors. I wonder...do other MMO's like WoW disclose this kinda info? if so, where is it located? if not, why not? Then again, other MMO's might have the budget to dedicate more manpower to fix this sort of thing.
I dunnow. the thing is, I have put ALOT of time and money into this game. If it were a stock, i would definetly have ownership in it. I care about the goings on of it and I want it to be right, run right, and do what it is supposed to. I remember when they used to not want to disclose real numbers.

EDIT: Blizz doesn't disclose anything either. The players use programs to figure it all out also.

here are a few pics i wanna see:
anything from the cathedral of pain
the lady grey touch of 6 million points of death bug
any other bugs would be awesome. i am loving these pic's!

thanks for the guide. sticky this!

Time Bomb sucks, pure and simple.
A) You are locked into a 9s Activation time. And 8 of those seconds are interruptable. And it CANNOT be slotted for -Int.

B) It will blow up after 15s. It doesn't care if you've brought anything to it in that time. After those 15s are up, it'll blow up no matter what. If you haven't brought anything to it in that time, congrats, you've completely wasted the power.

So not only is it a power you don't have to be around when it goes of (+), it's a power you have to babysit to make sure it's actually effective (-). That it's not only still around, but also still retains its incredibly punitive cast time is exceptionally confounding.

I say get rid of the awful thing, reskin Omega Maneuver and call it a day.


THIS IS MY NEW SIG!!! lol

i want to make a concept character who can cage people.
Obviously, gravity will be my primary, but i am stuck between sonic, which I have never played with, and FF which I have. I plan on using the dual cage/intange powers on STF's and ITF's and anywhere else applicable. I know this guy wont be able to farm and he wont have any heals, but i need to know the difference between the 3 said cages. what are good uses for them? what about the pro's/con's of grav/ff versus grav/sonic. Also, I plan on taking flight and fitness...and maybe hasten. for an epic, probably mind or primal.
anything anyone can tell me would be welcome.

if 8 people fired off telekinesis at the same time, could it hold a AV? just wondering.
same question, but with repel btw...

I also agree. Un Nerf Hurricane while you're at it too!

I'll try and give some insight on how I slotted mine:

I took stone skin and slotted it with 1 ageis resis and the one ageis unique and a lvl 50 resist IO. It allows you just what you need to make sure and hit the S/L cap in granite, and gives you a 5 percent run speed bonus. I took rock armor as a mule for Gota run speed and LotG uniques. They both help with recharge and run speed. I 3 slotted earths embrace with the heal/Recharge HO and saved slots there.

6 slot granite and throw in enough ageis and other IO's so as to max your def and resist, but to also get those set bonus's. Mudpots and tremor are great for Obliteration, and It has great bonus's Decimation (or thunderstrike for cheap) are great in hurl boulder and ring of fire. Hurl boulder is great for taging run away mobs and is perfect for an opener for farming the cimeroan wall for IO's and purples. (I open up by tagging the surgeon with it..knocking him off the wall..lol)

make sure and take advantage of any set bonus's that give melee def and smashing/lethal bonus's. With the melee attacks, crushing impact gives great set bonus's, recharge and is a cheap set, while touch of death/mako's bite gives extra damage and defensive bonus's.

I say investing any slots in taunt other than for set bonus's only is a waste. fireball from the pyre mastery set is a much better taunt plus it actually does damage. Six Slot anything you use alot of. I have base recharge and run speed in granite for now, but when I am done, I should be At a positive for both. If you want, I can share my build and thoughts.

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Just out of curiosity... I like having all of the following pools on my stoner:
speed,
fitness,
teleport,
fighting

Obviously you can't give up fighting or fitness since that would kind of defeat what you were trying to do with the build above.... so which of the other two do you skip to get leadership.... or do you just skip both?

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Speed pool is the one i skipped. That build was just a example of what can be gotten with IO's and weave/manuevers for defense.

My granite tank is built to tank the MOSTF and is perma granite so i've negated alot of run speed debuff and some of the recharge and damge debuffs so it preforms really well.

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I wanna know what changes you had to make to be able to handle a MoSTF. I tried tanking recluse and couldnt hang with him (i didnt have a dedicated emp of course) does weave and manuvers really make that huge a difference? I wanna see your build and stats. this sounds interesting

well, I am sure if i was a /fire tanker my picks would be different, but I am focusing on negating recharge through sloting. like i said, I took everything /stone has, plus the pyre epic, and i use every attack but ring of fire.

I switch back and forth between my opening AoE's: tremor, fireball, fault, melt armor and my single target attacks and it works well for me. Every attack, I think, serves a purpose if you think about it. not only that, I just didnt want to be limited in my attack chain because of granites slow recharge rate, which i have now overcame....not to mention i didnt want to be tied to hasten.

I play in granite almost all the time, so my focus was nagating granites 3 main limitations, to which I have done 2 of those....rooted's poor runspeed...thats a different matter.

so, i guess i was arguing a moot point all this time. If the point of said tank is to avoid using granite if at all possible, then by all means take tough, weave, manuvers, and any of the other armors you want.

with that, you might want to slot touch of death and thunderstrike instead of crushing impact and decimation. also, alot of the knockback sets would be great in fault. make sure and put end reduction in yout toggles..mainly mudpots. i just think if this guy wants to do so much without granite..pick another primary. be invul or something...

OR you can take all your attacks, skip fighting pool, pick up a good epic, slot enough recharge to overcome granite, slot enough runspeed to be fine, and if your lucky, put a dent in the -30 percent damage that granite gives you. for every secondary power you dont take, thats one more armor you can grab.

You can pull of massive recharge if you slot right and not have to give up too much damage or attack power! People will do what they want, but I just think there is no need for fighting on a stone tank. mean, i can stand in the middle of two level 54 boss spawns and afk.

now granted, you can take fighting, and run granite only when needed, but its far from nessecary. with my guy being a stone/stone/fire tank, I use ALL of his secondary and epics. Oh well....its your 15 dollars

stone skin plus granite (sloted properly) makes tough redundant and wasted. I can see weave, and maybe even manuvers. I just think you can get the same thing these contribute with IO's.

tough and weave on a stone tank is like medicine pool on an emp. i mean seriously...you can cap the resistance you need to and if you want, take all the optional other armors, then take every power in your secondary and STILL have room for fitness, a travel, and 3 epic pool powers. i could see taking it ONLY if you plan being non granite

first you want that recharge so that you can run earths embrace more often (slotted 3 recharge, 3 heal)..also, sets like touch of death, thunderstrike, and multistrike are your friend

more to follow!

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someone has it figured out.

First I wanna give myself a gratz, as I am one IO set away from having base recharge, having overcame the -65 percent that granite has. (no purples or hasten)
What I am wondering: Is it possible to overcome the -30 percent damage?

If any of you have any creative stone/stone or stone/anything set ups you would like to show, please post them along with what it was you were trying to do with the build and how much time and effort it took you to get there.

<-----DIEHARD #1, I even DVR it "the soup" fan

SANJAYA!!!

Chicken Tetrazzini!

lol

also:

ITS MILEY!

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give me my damnable rikti comm farms back.

"fun while it lasted" says it all: another nerf that removes fun from the game and drives me a step closer to cancelling my account and going back to games that actually keep me engaged on the Nth play-through. I can do 20 characters in a certain *other* 10-million-plus-player MMO without having to repeat content. If city is so pathetic people need to farm to 50 then give them the ability to do so.

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you, sir, are in the (very vocal) minority.
We don't need exploits. I am sure people will find something else. I already know of something new that people who saw this coming are doing. Farming will always be I am sure, but everyone knows that something like this was ruining the game for the multitude.

You can please some of the people some of the time, but you can not please all of the people all of the time. As long as the majority agrees, then it is good...and I am pretty sure the majority of people wanted this.....

However, I wasn't wild about all the threats/promises that Posi said. If it ends up affecting me, I'll just go elsewhere and find something new to play. It is no big deal.

i just watched the movie "rachels getting married" and it made more sence than this whole thread does...lol.
j/k