MayorOfAngrytown

That is because they do not. The total value of all the ticks will always be under the dmg cap for any given attack. If you're scrapper is at 400% dmg, the total value of the inital dmg +ticks of DoT will be equal to the capped dmg value for that attack.

FE, Procs, or Reactive are the only way to add more dmg after hitting that value.

Technicaly FE itself obeys the cap as well, but it still adds dmg to your attack, even if you were previously sitting at the cap.

Being at the cap, for example, and popping another red insp (Soul Drain, another minion in AAO, another tick of PS, another follow up, BU, etc) will do nothing to increase your dmg. Being at the cap and popping FE will add dmg to your attacks, which is why people consider it a way to go beyond the dmg cap.

Correct me if I am wrong, but /regen is the only armor set that lacks any sort of debuff resistance at all; to anything. I don't think adding rech or regen resistance would be o/p at at all. Hell, /SD gets healthy DDR (95% on top end build) AND 30% slow/rech resistance from GC. This is on a set with good def numbers out of the box, +hp, and non-trivial resistance to everything but psi.

Finally got mine to the point where LB drops the -regen. Seeing a giant red 0.0% sitting there was rather disheartening. This is inside of DP/IH as well. Wherever that debuff is comming from it doesn't seem to be scalar. It's just BAM - no regen for you, regardless of how high you've gotten the number.

At this point, lack of debuff resistance in /regen just seems like an oversight as it is basically everywhere else. Honestly, adding a bit of rech resistance to Resliance and regen resistance to FH (really, Willpower gets it and not Regen? That totally makes sense. <_<) wouldn't change much for the top end build crowd, but it would make the set more playable for the average player crowd.

Which is to say, I agree with that guy.

I believe, but could be wrong, that many of the folks farming with ss/fa are skipping rage, partially because of the red insp macros, and partially due to the crash.

Hmm. tbh I'm not certain. In Mids the effects tab shows the -dmg and +dmg, and since the latter is only on when PS is up, it's difficult to tell. Tangentially speaking: mids also doesn't show the resultant dmg buff on attacks when you toggle PS on and ride the slider around. Not a big deal, but I'm mentioning it in case any of you awesome Mids team folks stumble in here.

In help chat someone mentioned that one (or more) of the attacks always have the debuff, while the others only have it under siphon. Grain of salt that one, as it could be inaccurate.

Interestingly, mids shows Burst to have twice the debuff (11.3% vs. 5.63%) of the other attacks and the torrent (according to mids) carries no debuff at all.

Ah, there I found it. The mouse over description of the KM set declares that "All attacks in this set reduce the damage ...." So it sounds like you are probably correct.

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=261602

OP: Scroll down for El's two versions of km/regen. I'm still lvling mine (been away for a moment), but these are a very nice roadmap. HTH.

PS is a click that modifies all of your KM attacks to reduce dmg to each thing you hit, and for each successful hit it gives you a dmg buff. Each dmg buff is on the order of 30 something percent maybe and is on a timer. The effect will stack up to 5 times in total, but usually it rolls between 3 or 4 as some expire before new ones take effect.

The effect fades before the dmg buffs do, so with decent recharge it can be kinda perma.

Burst has too short of a range imo. It has around the same animation time as spine burst, similar dmg, and smaller area of effect. Seems a tad neutered to me, but I imagine others will disagree. Having said that - on a brute with all that autotaunt happening that will be less of a problem than on my scrapper. Even then it's decent and worth taking. FE+Burn+Burst could do some wicked things.

As far as synergy - I've thought about km/fa for the added AoEs and the added dmg buff from FE. Honestly, talking about it makes me want to revisit the idea.

Counterintuitively, the tier one is worth taking, the KD makes for nice mitigation, and you want a smooth, quick attack chain for both fury and PS. Pop PS while you run into a spawn (doesn't root), cycle fast attacks (not pools or inherents or vets, they won't add dmg) then drop AoEs or heavy hitters when the buff is full up. QS helps with that early on, though I want to say folks keep it. Dunno yet, my km scrapper is only in his late 20s

I had heard once that things with slows tend to trigger the flight response, so I attributed at least some of it to that. Which could have been just plain wrong anyway.

I never quite understood that; ST from dark carries a mag 30 stun and gives you Untouchable. Don't recall the duration, but usually long enough for me to pop on at least half of my 11 or 12 or 300 toggles, however many I have on that character. Forgive me, long day working odd hours.

The one from /FA carries pretty massive KB, but I don't recall if you get Untouchable for a bit.

It almost seems like an oversight that /regen doesn't at least get Untouchable for a few seconds like the others. The lack of secondary effect I can understand. Dark is feeding off them and fire is exploding in flames, regen is just bringing you back to life.

Where does /fire get -rech resist, I never knew that?

fwiw: ageless radial gives resistance to all of these things, but that means giving up what will probably be better destiny choices.

Not speaking from a market perspective; The Mayor approves. Still work, but attainable. I don't mind if there are more of those pieces around.

Doh! Forgot about that one.

Well, on the first point they're being silly. There's nothing wrong with /elec, and more to the point in the current game I can't think of a brute combo that would be a "poor decision." Who cares if it's not OMGFARMSAUCE!!

On the second, less so, but there are various ways to go about it. When something takes a swing at you the game looks for your highest applicable defense value. By applicable I mean damage type and positional component. For example:

Something throws a melee attack with smashing/fire damage types (pretty common). If you have 20% across the board, then you have 20% defense.

Generally the goal is to get to either 32.5% or 45% (incarnate cap aside) to select types. Smashing/Lethal is the common choice for resistance sets: A: Those damage types will account for the majority of incoming damage, and B: It requires fewer set bonuses than trying to soft cap positional (melee/ranged/aoe) on a secondary that doesn't come with some of that built in (shield and SR, for example).

Following thing the above example, if your s/l defense is at 45% and your fire/cold is at 20%, then the game picks the 45% and (outside additional modifiers) has a 5% chance to hit you. It is possible to go for a defense to all damage types build - but then you likely want to be at 32.5 (one small purple insp from 45). Even then, building for fire/cold defense is probably not the best use of those slots, imo.

Now that's what I like to hear!

fwiw: The iTrials are only a fraction of the content (even at lvl 50) and MMs can steamroll things by themselves that would leave my brutes/scrapys eating pavement repeatedly. I know you guys rock, just wanted to clear up the "inconsiderate" thing.

Dechs - bring a DKTF to Virtue sometime? I got toons that burn for every spawn to be their "first time." (noting your rules from another thread).

If I had the -res proc and click AoE I'd put it there, otherwise it'll only tick every 10s like any other proc. I'd probably put it on a different toon if the aura was my only choice.

Have you considered adding an endmod for additional sapperness? Also, if cost isn't an issue and you don't need the defense bonus from Oblit, slap the armageddon proc in there.

Heck, my shielder stealths missions, stealth by softcap. turn off aao and haul taters, anything dumb enough to follow gets a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTpQOZcNASw

Still, the thing about fury is interesting on its own.

Necroquestion:

Around how much +rch might that be? I have a new brute that might like to know eventually.

"Top End Performace" notwithstanding, I totally agree with the above. It took me a bit away from it to actually get into KM, but the set looks and sounds great and runs well through the early/mid game especially on P/U teams full of what are likely casual to slightly more often than that players.

Very smart to release it with GR, gives new players a nice looking set with decent damage, fun utility (KD for the win!) and a very good attack chain flow throughout the game. Even if it isn't a top end dps one, it is a smooth one and that goes along way towards my fun factor.

As far as PS is concerned, my theory is that with enough recharge to overlap buffs (if not the active buffing period), then it basically becomes mini-fury for scrappers. I play so many brutes that the mechanic seems natural. *shrug* Again, probably not TopEndPerformance, but effective enough to be very good.

That sounds kinda compelling; how is the redraw on pistols? I've never tried it.

Ya, I didn't go in with very high expectations, just happened to be the setting I was on. In retrospect ...

I think I did this pretty badly on that first run, just sort of boldly pulled the first couple that were there and then got overwhelmed. Not sure I would have stuck around even with being careful and tactical and whatnot on that setting.

Just did a run at that setting <0x3y/n no insps/temps>; more relaxing is a great way to describe the difference. The first run I spend a good amount of time staring at my heal hoping it would recharge faster.

(why is this the exact sort of thing I can get obsessed with? lol). Timer was around 1:40:xx remaning when it flipped over to Mish Complete. I noticed a bunch of ambushes popped up on my minimap(?), I probably should have cleared them. I'll probably do it again after I respec the scrapper, or finish Ageless, or just get bored with other stuff, lol.

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Hmm. I wonder how Mr. Mace/Shield would fare ...

Anyway, cool map man, thanks for posting the ID.

I'm not saying this to disagree with any of the sentiments in this thread; I'm just in here checking up on MMs since a buddy of mine is resubbing and really digs them. Thought I'd see what's what. Full disclosure: I actually see how you guys have some legit complaints about aspects of the iTrials.

As one of those brute/scrappers that bounces from one cansiter/crate to the next, I'm sorry that makes you upset - but I don't expect you to try to keep up. Frankly, I'm not trying to be inconsiderate, but I just don't need to wait. I've never been on a team that wanted to clear those maps, universally my experience has been to speed that section. YMMV as I can't speak for all teams, obviously. I can take the alphas, I can take the sustained damage long enough to kill the canister, and I move on.

Do what an MM on one of my recent runs did; slowly progress through the map wiping mobs along the way while we speed from objective to objective across the map.

A: You'll generate drops and iXp (if you need it) and B: people end up looping through the maps, or getting lost, or returning from the hopsital anyway, so it's probably not a bad idea to have a couple folks clearing the spawns.

Anyway, we're not trying to be inconsiderate, we're just trying to finish the phase and get to the part where we push Marauder's face in.