MaXimillion_Zero

Mesmerize: 1 acc 3 dam
Levitate: 1 acc 3 dam
Dominate: 1/2 acc 3 hold 1/2 rech
Confuse: 1/2 acc 3 conf 1 rech 0/1 end
Mass hypno: 2 acc 3 rech 1 sleep
TK: 3 end 3 rech
Total Dom: 2 Acc 1-3 rech 1-3 hold
Terrify: 2 Acc 1-3 dam 1-3 rech
Mass Confuse: 2 acc 2/3 rech 1/2 conf

Numbers depend on secondary and epic, Kin needs less recharge, Rad doesn't need other acc in AoE's, Someone with power boost needs less mez duration.

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uhm..... why get siphon speed and super speed? do they stack or its just you dont want to stay without quick run if you miss with SP?

[/ QUOTE ]They stack, SS provides +stealth, And SS activates faster and can be used in high level areas. Siphon on the other hand provides awesome +recharge, and so isn't really skippable if you want an efficient kin.

You'll want aid self in there.

Your control powers are horribly underslotted, Grav Distortion, GDF and wormhole should all be 6-slotted, and you shouldn't have damage in your ST hold, rather HoldDur and RechRdx.

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Is Hasten's recharge reduction effect (when activated) calculated using a powers basic slotted recharge time, or the modified recharge time (which has been altered by Quickness)?

[/ QUOTE ]Modified recharge time, like all other powers.

Follow up is the "BU" of claws, attack with medium damage, not too long recharge. It doesn't give as big a boost as BU does, but it's perma, and (IIRC) stackable.

For invul, REL, REN and Tough Hide would be the 3 things to skip IMO.

According to NoFuture, TI and UY cost 0.13 EPT (End per tick) while Invinc costs 0.208 EPT. However, TI and UY have tick rate of 05 sec, while Invinc is 1 sec, thus making TI and UY cost 0.26 EPS.

Personally, wouldn't go for a melee-heavy secondary with archery, the draw times are a pain.

Well, more lt's means my fire brute can herd more spawns, but also that I take more damage... On the whole, it has increased XPOT nicely tho'.

Get aid self from medicine, very good self heal.

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only one that needs an end reducer is invinc

[/ QUOTE ]...invinc is the lowest cost of the toggles...

Invul and EA are your best choices for good mez prot, and also well rounded sets from defensive PoV IMO.

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* What's the point of getting Freezing Touch? You're a Tank. A melee range single target hold doesn't help you at all, especially the way you've slotted it right now.

[/ QUOTE ]Holds are useful on any char, although I agree that the suggested slotting for it is poor.

Night Fall could use Rech and End.
Slot TT for daamge instead, you don't have too much of that.
Torrent? What For?
If you take PG, give it at least 5 slots, otherwise don't bother.

"Should i have blackhole in there in place of life drain? (as a pve power, i mean?)"
Yes, Life Drain is [censored], black hole is slightly less [censored].

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Wormhole, well bad gravs dont take it, as they can't control it

[/ QUOTE ]Fixed that for ya

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Health is more for the sleep res it gives for pvp. havent tried it. but if it just takes one sleep im happy.

[/ QUOTE ]It's resistance, not protection, so it lowers the duration of sleep, it doesn't block certain sleep magnitude.

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In fact, it really has only one non-control power - levitate.

[/ QUOTE ]Nice duration knockup, affects most bosses with one application, it's definitely control, just not conventional type.

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I didn't say that Illu had more stuff, what I think is that Illu has better stuff.


[/ QUOTE ]Flash vs. Total Dom, Total Dom wins (since it's ranged, otherwise the same).
Terrify vs. Spectral terror, Both have single AoE effect, spectral also does ST fears, while terrify is larger area, and does damage.
Holds, Pretty much the same.
Spectral wounds vs. levitate/mesmerize, Illu does more damage, mind has control effect.
Confuse vs. deceive, the same.

That leaves mass hypno, TK, mass confuse against PA, phantasm, group invis and sup invis.
Mass hypno: AoE control, good for keeping a group the team is not fighting busy, or setting up containment.
TK: AoE auto-hit hold, 5 targets maximum, very good for control and positioning once the player has trained to use it.
Mass confuse: Great control, great indirect damage, aggro-free... Very nice power.

PA: Can be good for taking aggro, but can also aggro additional groups, and when they vanish, the aggro is directed at the controller.
Phantasm: Your basic pet, can be good, can be bad, decent extra damage.
Group invis: Decent for ghosting, +stealth fades as soon as you attack, so not too hot for fights.
Sup invis: nice for PvP, decent in PvE.

Personally, mind wins in control.

Mind can layer mass confusion, terrify, total dom, and still have levitate, mes and dom to control singles and TK and Mass hypno to take care of extra spawns. That's WAY more stuff than illu has.

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Probably the highest AoE potential of any controller secondary (/Rad and /Dark have only one-ish aswell? - Mutate, Petrifying Gaze, Fluffy - I think thats it).

[/ QUOTE ]Since when is dark a troller secondary?

Either of the single bubbles will give you WAY better boost, maneuvers is [censored].

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AoE control, nothing like Illu/Rad IMO

[/ QUOTE ]I very rarely laugh at stuff I read online, but...Illu, good AoE control? What are you smoking and where can I get some?

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He means that this is not my experience of Defiant.

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For optimal communication quality I suggest saying what one means, not saying something else.

"Are you playing on the same Defiant?" has pejorative undertones and is not conducive to a positive atmosphere among our wonderful community. A simple, to the point, "My experiences on Defiant are different" is far clearer as to its meaning, and neutral in its language, without provoking confrontations.

[/ QUOTE ]And using neutral language is great!


...right?

Had to skip something to make it viable for offence, Regen aura was the one to go.

Mind/Kin, Possibly Earth/Kin.