Kyuuen

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  1. Quote:
    Originally Posted by 2short2care View Post
    what am I gonna ask for now? (and no I don't want any ponies)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jCr8QSGYss
  2. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Brillig View Post
    No, I would never say that Z contributed to the decline. However, I would say that Z was in more of a position to try to do positive things to improve CoH's position (and he did do a lot of things, they just didn't happen to work on a big scale) than an NCSoft PR person. That NCSoft person really had no impact on CoH one way or the other.

    So while I think it's very unfortunate that the people of Paragon are having to find new jobs, I don't think it's particularly unjust that an NCSoft PR person still has their job.
    Ok. I get you. I'm not for tossing people in the street (which is kind of why I was upset the better man got shown the door), but comparing the actions of Zwill and NCSoft_PR_Writer after the sunset announcement, there is simply no contest.

    NCSoft's PR arm should have had a better plan the moment that the shutdown notice was served if not before.

    They could have affected the reaction greatly simply by being a bit more hands on, instead of passing vague condolences to Zwillinger and IGN.

    I do suspect that the home office gave them -nothing- to work with, but then I guess that wouldn't be just a PR failure, but a failure of communication on a deeper level.
  3. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Brillig View Post
    Not sure what it has to do with anything, but yes, I played on Virtue. Casual RPer. In no way a grinder, less than a dozen 50's. Been around from the beginning as you can see from my forum reg date.

    Regarding what NC did, I'm of the camp that believes that the main decision NC made was to close Paragon. They did so because they didn't believe that the secret project Paragon was working on was going to be successful. Once the decision was made to shut down the secret project, it made no sense to keep part (half?) the studio just to run CoH.

    As in many situations, it's misleading to think that NCSoft are the black hats here. They may have been the ones pulling the plug in the end, but it's the result of numerous factors, which also include Paragon's inability to build up CoH (no matter how much you love it, the game was in a slow decline) and Paragon's inability to succeed in making a second game that fit NCSoft's requirements. NCSoft is no doubt complicit in both those failures. But to say that Paragon is blameless is both naive and, in a way, insulting to Paragon.
    2 50's here. Since 2004. Hope for a 3rd 50 is closing. Casual/Moderate roleplayer who occasionally pretends to be slightly more than moderate.

    (EDIT: Also author of very bad story here: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?p=4060008)

    I didn't say that Paragon was blameless. I was simply saying - a bit on the acerbic side, that between Zwill and the unnamed NCSoft rep, I'd pick Zwill every time.

    Was Zwill part of a declining product. Yes.

    Did he contribute to the decline? I'm leaning 'No, that's a terrible thing to say.', but the case could be made for it, I suppose.

    For me, it was because the game was starting to feel like the same old cake with a new layer of icing added every issue. When the new icing was added, that was great. We'd spend a few days licking at it, but after you did that - you just had the same old cake again. Then you're left wanting for new, delicious icing, which was really starting to get sweeter.

    I don't claim to know the internals, or how things worked - but I wanted the Dev and art teams to possess a lot more horsepower and start making the game 'new', somehow.
  4. Kyuuen

    Anime and CoX

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    If they wanted to attract those fans, they could always just announce the that T rating was now referring the the maximum age of all female NPCs.
    Ow. x.o

    On a side note, my character was heavily inspired by anime, and in my totally unbiased opinion - she turned out fine.
  5. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Brillig View Post
    Huh. After seeing all the vitriol being flung their way, I'm not finding any of that loyalty you seem to think exists.
    Enough existed for the game to last 8 years, you know.

    There is a bit of it on the server I call home, too.
  6. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Brillig View Post
    Ah yes, there's more of that wonderful CoH community spirit everyone talks about.
    You play on Virtue, man?

    Who are you?

    Really. I just want to know what you play. You roleplay? Grind?

    This is an honest attempt to reach out even though I don't really like the job NC did.
  7. Disagree.

    Zwill did a much better job during a similar situation.
  8. I'm not suggesting at all that an incentive be a substitute for what they did, a little more could have been done as a nod to our loyalty. Just saying.

    I'm glad that people with huge balances probably got refunded, though.
  9. Community Managers for $1000, Alex.

    "He was a class act through the City of Heroes sunset, also known as Zwillinger."

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Evil_Legacy View Post
    Who is Andy Belford?
    Correct! And that brings you to the lead.
  10. Andy Belford is looking for a job, while anonymous NCSoft reps still get a paycheck.

    Very sad.
  11. Dear Jack,

    You got the ball rolling, so I guess you deserve a little thanks.

    - Me.

    PS: For real, I think a LOT of credit is owed to you. For everything that I've heard people disagree with, and as many times as I've heard some curse you as a plague - it doesn't change the fact that you were key for this world to exist in the first place.

    Thank you.
  12. To the "NCSoft Team".

    Thank you for your response, and any consideration you have honestly given to saving the game, and also for allowing the forums to remain open. However, I feel there is still a huge deficit of goodwill that has been built up from the first month of the sunset.

    - A bare bones refund system, giving your paying customers NO incentive to jump to your other products. My refund? Four bucks and change. I'm considering sending it back, you can keep it and the rest of my 8 year (almost constantly subscribed, with VIP and purchased points) investment into COH which is now worth nothing.

    I'm sure other people who have paid into Freedom for the short time it was open would agree that some kind of meaningful return would have left a better impression.

    - No accountability. Aside from a few vague statements of 'no longer fitting with long term plans', released to selected journalists, the way you closed the game was chicken-hearted to put it nicely. A better explanation, communicated directly from the people who made the decision to close the game would have done a lot to smooth things over, even if what they said wasn't what we wanted to hear.

    Yes. It's true that no response is required, that the corporate norm is to write a quick Dear John letter (or paragraph) and to let the remains blow into the wind, but this was a missed opportunity to truly put this property to bed instead of heaving it into the cellar.


    You do have one good suggestion, however - to keep playing. This game needs to be enjoyed to it's fullest up until the final hour. I want to see old friends come back, even if it is just to say goodbye. I want to see what other people have planned for their characters 'endgame', or more accurately - what their futures hold without us looking over their shoulders. I'm glad I'll get to witness the curtain call on Virtue, a great world in itself.

    Yet, it does not mean that the fires of discontent should, or are going to be completely doused, like some seem to encourage, or are content to see happen.

    Past actions follow you, and this was an uninspired effort, overall.


    Former Lifelong Subscriber
  13. It might not be bad idea to go to their forums and make a civil, well written plea for support and petition signatures.
  14. I'll have my character there, hopefully with friends. She'll probably talk about a future, which will go on - even if I'm not over her shoulder to see it.
  15. Kyuuen

    Refund Day

    Four dollars and change.
  16. There is a 'jedi grab' animation that you could do with the Crey Pistol, after activating a series of temporary powers.
  17. This would be like North Korea buying out Disneyland.
  18. My very first ones were a lot of videogame inspired knockoffs barely worth mentioning.

    Then I found Gemini Park (Virtue) one day, and saw people creating actual, real characters.

    I deleted such creations like 'Crazy Old Man', and 'Lt. Sakura Kasugano'.

    8 years of altitis begins.


    One or two knockoffs did survive because I loved their base characters.



    The Saikyonator




    My first true OC, who was with the original PCPD supergroup.




    Reconstruction




    This was not a knockoff, but very heavily inspired by another game, eventually evolved into my main hero.



    Belle Bonne


  19. Kyuuen

    Quick update...

    Any hugs for Jack? Didn't he kind of start this whole thing?
  20. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Remidi View Post
    The only revenge I have planned is to go back to my single player games that nobody can take away, and never spend another penny on anything NCSoft has anything to do with. Nice and simple.
    May I suggest backloggery.com?
  21. Quote:
    Originally Posted by saviour123 View Post
    Also if we all behaved that way, then we should have all quit COH when the closed down Tabula Rasa.... but we didnt, because we liked playing COH, so in all fairness our boycotting is a little selective...
    It didn't affect me directly then, and Tabula Rasa was still a bit young.

    Though, I should have learned something then. I also do not rule out the forgery accusations.