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Originally Posted by plainguy

I have to say I must be behind 3 years. I just do not see how a Blaster with AOEs and a high recharge can survive a 4/8 setting for a farm. If anything the IOs are somewhat built in the sense you either capping one thing or another. But your not going to be able to get Resistances up high enough along with recharge persay. I do not think that a blaster can kill a group of mobs which includes several purple mobs before the mobs can strike back. The only way I can this sort of being accomplished is via Boost Range. But again your not going to have it up every attack and eventually they will come in on you. Even hover blasting by the vators persay in the Crey farm will not afford you survivability unless your range defense capped.

Resistance are great when combined with something else. I could see if you had 60% resistance and then 25% Positional defense as it relates to those mobs. Assuming you had some decent recovery as well. Other wise you will not be able to recover enough hit point in between hits from mobs.

Also Being defense capped means a equal level mob has a 1 in 13 attack chance of hitting you I believe. Where as resistance is a simple take a percentage of damage off the hits. So I think if you add up the numbers of being at 50% resistance ( think 75% is the max ) against 10 equal con mobs doing 100 dps attack each per attack which means you will get hit for at most 500 dps if all 10 connect. Since you have no defenses you have a 50% chance of getting hit. So even if you went with 50/50 split your getting 250 points of damage every time 10 mobs attack ( 5 missing each attack ).

Defense wise at 45% softcap 1 even con minion has a 5% chance of hitting you. 10 mobs at 5% chance of hitting. You have a 51% chance to have dodged 13 attacks from an even con mob. You only have a 2% chance of getting hit by 2 attacks within that 13 attack period.

End result 10 mobs hitting me at Range cap for 2 sets of attacks is very unlikely. Where as 10 mobs hitting you for 2 attacks for a total of 500 DPS is very likely.

I am not even discussing bosses or even LT that are going to be at +3 on a 4/8 setting. A +2 LT will have a 78% chance to hit you with no defenses and we all know they will do much more damage then the 100 dps persay.

So all I'm saying is you will not be able to run a 4/8 setting with no defenses and just AOE and recharge alone and hope to survive on just a tray of inspirations or hope to be able to get 3 of the same inspirations to make what you need, when you need it. Either way I think its poor management of expecting success on the drop of a random item that you hope you get 3 of the same or the right inspiration to do what you need.

I would rather be Ranged Defense capped and have a high regeneration as I am with my measly AR Device, which I think we can just about agree is one of the lowest if not lowest damage types for blasters. And hover blast a Crey Fire farm on a 4/8 setting and make reds to increase my dps instead of worrying about when is this purple inspiration going to expire and tank my defense down to nothing.

I can be totally wrong and be misunderstanding some game mechanic, but I would love to see these high recharge aoe builds solo a 4/8 farm. I just don't see it happening to be honest.

Even at 75% resistance cap I just don't see this model happening with bosses tossed into the mix. If fire toons can kill a group of mobs with bosses included with one quick attack chain on a steady basis everyone would be doing it.

Again I can be wrong but I would love to see it, I am more then happy to learn something new.

BTW here is the link of my data. Have to give credit where credit is due.

http://dechskaison.blogspot.com/2011...important.html

Originally Posted by Postagulous

Word.

That said, I will have to look up some archery farming. I was here before the shield craze, and that whole people farming with archery must have passed me right by.

Originally Posted by Seril

These have been around in the farming circles for a while now. I don't think this is too bad, given Brutes with damage auras are the only ones that can really make the best use of these maps.

There are a bunch of these on AE right now with varying effectiveness. I made an optimized version for max XP/inf capped at level 1: try arc 504915 if you're looking to do this. (Ambushes triggered off of enemies rather than objects work better, as you can lure both ambush triggers to the same spot so they all congregate in the same area. You also want an open map, otherwise you get shoved against a wall and that limits your AoEs and you waste time repositioning yourself)

Originally Posted by Microcosm

Well, first things, don't use Dark Nova Bolt at all. It's crap. Just alternate Dark Nova Blast with Nova AoE's and you'll end up with better dps, as long as you have the recharge to do so (not terribly difficult). That will also save you some slots. I'll see if I can scrounge up some builds.

Edit how about this: tell us exactly what your goals are (besides perma-eclipse) and I will see what I can come up with that works.

Originally Posted by Microcosm

Did you read the MFing Warshade?

Originally Posted by Morganite

Dark Nova is *much* better than human form with Orbiting Death, I think. The damage from the AoEs is better (and I believe but can't at this moment confirm have a higher target cap), the single target attacks are also better (although by less exciting a margin, I believe), and being able to hover adds major survivability. The OP's map isn't high enough to outdistance enemy attacks entirely, which might be possible on some maps. (I'm pretty sure scatter would become a serious issue in such a case, but who knows, it might be worth experimenting with.) But the hovering is still enough to avoid a lot. (It's a technique I've tried on some other things too, with mixed success, but that's a report for another day.)

My usual loadout while doing this on squishier characters is to have 4 orange, 4 purple, 4 red running when I open fire, and trying to bring a couple extra greens along. That seems to work fairly well on anything that works at all.

Originally Posted by New Dawn

I'm definitely rating this game for 3 year olds now.

There is painfully hard and then there is painfully easy.

Now I just think favourable powersets for speed, ganking and spanking are just going to be even more favourable.

Originally Posted by Rial_Vestro

I've been on this game for 7 years. Most of my friends stopped playing years ago because they felt it was getting too repetitive and I keep trying to convince them to start playing again every time new content gets added but this time around. I don't think I could convince anyone that the game isn't repetitive when I don't even believe it myself.

Originally Posted by Neogumbercules

You should give my map or the OPs map a try. If you have a damage aura and an AoE attack before level 8, you can do these maps. You won't be as fast or efficient as a brute, but it'll probably work.

Originally Posted by VashNKnives

How much defense are you going for? How much recharge? Without scorpion or ice shield, hitting the soft-caps may really strain the build. In addition, I probably wouldn't take assault over maneuvers, you'll need the defense from maneuvers much more than the small damage buff of assault and maneuvers takes the LoTG proc for your recharge goal.

The next bit purely personal preference: if you're going to be in melee with hotfeet, burn, fire sword circle, etc., don't you think it will be hard to maximize the empty clips cone? This is of course compared to combustion. I know, I know combustion has a bad rap. However, in the powerset comparison in Mids' it shows combustion having the better dpa, dps, dpe, and damage. I looked at it both with and without Arcana time checked in the options. Not to mention, combustion has a larger radius than fire sword circle making it a good follow up move for FSC as enemies start to run away.

Originally Posted by McCharraigin

I know this sounds stupid, but I made a Mace/Fire Brute.

I may live to regret it, but right now, at level 20, I am fine as frog's hair

Lisa.

Originally Posted by Irish Fury

I don't want to pull you away from making a blaster, but you should consider making a dual pistols corruptor. My DP/Kin just hit 50, and it was the most fun I have ever had leveling a toon.

Fulcrum Shift+Hail of Bullets+Scourge=Awesome!