Empathy Slotting Help

Hi guys,

I got an Empathy / Energy Blast Defender on the up and I really wanted to get him sorted out, now in terms of slotting Empathy, I'm not too sure, so, what I'll do is I'll list the powers and the slots I was thinking of putting in them, and the IO set that takes my fancy for each of them, and if you could offer me some feedback maybe some pointers that'd be grand.


Healing Aura - 4 slots - Numina's Conv...

Heal Other - 6 slots - 5 Doctored Wounds / 1 common IO Recharge

Absorb Pain - 4 slots - Numina's Conv

Resurrect - 3 slots - Recharge common IO's

Clear Mind - 1 Slot - Reduce Endurance Cost SO or IO

Fortitude - 4 slots - Luck of the Gambler

Recovery Aura - 6 slots - Efficacy Adapter

Regeneration Aura - 5 slots - Doctored Wounds

Adrenalin Boost - 1 slot - Recharge. (Unless adding healing or Endurance based enchancements to it makes a big difference, admitedly, this power I was least sure of what to do with, or rather, had least idea what to do with)

You should want Adrenaline Boost available much more often than you should want, or need Ressurect available.

Why not throw together a full mids build and say exactly what you want to achieve and you're price range, always a good way to get advice.

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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl [*]Watching out for the Spinning Disco Portal of D00M!*

Will do, not at home now, in work. Mids won't work on these computers so I'll give that a go. In terms of price, well, I'm not too fussed, naturally, Im not spending billions of inf on one recipe, but I should be able to afford something reasonable.

In my experiences, Empathy loves recharge. Thus Doctored Wounds is the best set ever for it.

Seriously, though, you can get ED capped heal and recharge with five Doctored Wounds (slotting everything but the triple), which's invaluable in Adrenalin Boost and Regeneration Aura. You shouldn't need that extra recharge IO in Heal Other, by the way.

In my experiences, you can generally get alway with one-slotting Resurrect. Very occasionally when things really go to hell, you get teammates dying faster than you can resurrect them which's a bummer, but that'd be an issue even with three recharge in Resurrect. For most situations, it's not really something to worry about.

I don't know that I'd bother to six-slot Efficacy Adaptor into Recovery Aura when you can slot Doctored Wounds five times in your healing powers and hit the rule of five for the 5% recharge bonus. I personally wasn't able to afford the slots to put more than three recharge into Recovery Aura on my Mind/Empathy controller, but I've noticed its base unmodified recovery seemed to be enough to mostly make endurance woes go away. You can still frankenslot for endurance modification and recharge or something if you want, but I'd say recharge's the most important thing.

Fortitude kinda wants more recharge than four Luck of the Gambler can really give. I actually just four-slotted mine with the Luck recharge global and then three Membrane HOs (maximizing defense, to-hit buff, and recharge).

Overall I'd suggest as many recharge set bonuses as you can reasonably afford, but this is coming from the perspective of a controller. You might be able to benefit from ranged defense instead (Energy Blast has room for five Thunderstrikes for example), but it's up to you whether you want more personal survival or more team buffage. Perma AB is a beautiful thing, but it takes a lot of global recharge. And I do mean a lot.

...I guess the short version of this post is "More recharge." Heh. That's the thing for a set like Empathy with really good buffs on really long recharge timers though. It really benefits from recharge.

Adrenaline boost is awesome for the 100% +recharge bonus it grants. And, while you don't really see blasters nuking much these days, with a bit of endmod (around +25%) it can grant a blaster recovery through its nuke crash.

Empathy should pretty much only ever build for recharge.

You should have 5 Doctored Wounds in all five of your primary powers which take it. (HA, HO, AP, RegA, and AB). There's an easy 25% recharge, with (IIRC) 20% healing bonus to boot.

Then, in your secondary, slot Decimations and Positron's Blasts until you have a set of 5 of either of them in a total of 5 powers. So with /Energy, 5 Decis in Bolt, Blast, and Burst, and 5 Posi's Blasts in Torrent and Explosive Blast. Purples can be substituted for even more recharge.

Putting any more than the default slot with a recharge in Resurrect is something I'd never do, personally, unless perhaps you were gearing solely for running trials, in which case you'd have to train your team constantly to not click the hospital button (it's enticing when the hospital is in the same zone).

CM is fine with just that one slot. Lately, with Clarions flying around, I'm starting to consider dropping it entirely, since I won't exemplar with my Emp.

Fortitude would be a personal choice between slotting 4 of the LOTG set or slotting 3 of the Tohit/Def/Rech HOs. I personally went with 3 HOs and a LOTG +Rech, but you may prefer the set bonuses from LOTG over the often-irrelevant Tohit enhancement in Fortitude.

With RA, I just slotted EndMod/Rech from both Efficacy and Performance Shifter sets, and then an L50 Recharge IO. RA is strong enough that it doesn't need that much EndMod slotting, so as long as its recharge is high, you're gold.

The rest of the slotting depends on what pools and epic you take. I would recommend taking 4 LOTG +Rech dump powers if at all possible, so consider the Concealment and Leadership pools.

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Level 48 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Empathy
Secondary Power Set: Energy Blast
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Concealment

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Healing Aura -- Dct'dW-Rchg(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(3), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(3), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Dct'dW-Heal(40)
Level 1: Power Bolt -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(7), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(7), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9)
Level 2: Heal Other -- Dct'dW-Rchg(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(9), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(11), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(11), Dct'dW-Heal(13), Range-I(13)
Level 4: Energy Torrent -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(15), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(15), Posi-Dmg/Rng(17), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(17), FrcFbk-Rechg%(19)
Level 6: Resurrect -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 10: Clear Mind -- RechRdx-I(A), Range-I(40)
Level 12: Fortitude -- AdjTgt-ToHit(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(21), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(21), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(23), AdjTgt-Rchg(23), LkGmblr-Rchg+(40)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Zephyr-ResKB(A)
Level 16: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(25)
Level 18: Recovery Aura -- P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(A), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(25), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(27), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(27), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(42)
Level 20: Stealth -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg(29), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(29), LkGmblr-Rchg+(31), Ksmt-ToHit+(31)
Level 22: Acrobatics -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 24: Absorb Pain -- Numna-Heal/EndRdx(A), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(31), Numna-Heal/Rchg(33), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Range-I(42)
Level 26: Regeneration Aura -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(33), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(34), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Dct'dW-Heal(34)
Level 28: Aim -- GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(36), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(36)
Level 30: Power Burst -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(A), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), HO:Centri(37)
Level 32: Adrenalin Boost -- P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(A), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(39), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(39), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(39)
Level 35: Super Speed -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(42)
Level 38: [Empty]
Level 41: [Empty]
Level 44: [Empty]
Level 47: [Empty]
Level 49: [Empty]
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- ULeap-Stlth(A)
Level 1: Vigilance
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(19), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(36)

Recovery Aura already gives TON of recovery, 4 times speed boost iirc, and you never see speed boosted people complaining about end (except my stone melee/elec brute but boy she was heavy on the blue before power sink), so I didn't feel the need to use a set.

I don't have Ressurrect (easy to make wakies and CM+heal somebody to full after that) but I'd leave it at 1 slot with recharge especially since you'll have some recharge bonuses. I also don't have AP because healing is kinda moot in the late game, but I have a mind/emp controller so I had a tighter build (and lots of crowd control so I needed to heal less) and it's not updated for inherent fitness, I'd probably fit Ressurrect back now, not sure if I'd put Absord Pain back in.

I find endmods important in Adren Boost because it goes over the -1000% blaster nuke recovery. Regen Aura OTOH is already Instant Healing levels IIRC (just came back) so you'll be fine with 3 recharges in there although I put healing to get the 2.5% recovery bonuses from Miracle.

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Doutora Aleluia i17: Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Mind Control
Secondary Power Set: Empathy
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Teleportation
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Flight
Ancillary Pool: Psionic Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Mesmerize -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(3), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5)
Level 1: Healing Aura -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal(9), Dct'dW-Rchg(9)
Level 2: Dominate -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(11), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), UbrkCons-Dam%(15)
Level 4: Levitate -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(15), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), ExStrk-Dam%(19), Apoc-Dam%(19)
Level 6: Heal Other -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(21), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(21), Dct'dW-Heal(23), Dct'dW-Rchg(23)
Level 8: Confuse -- Mlais-Acc/Rchg(A), Mlais-EndRdx/Conf(43), Mlais-Acc/EndRdx(43), Mlais-Conf/Rng(46), Mlais-Acc/Conf/Rchg(46)
Level 10: Mass Hypnosis -- FtnHyp-Sleep(A), FtnHyp-Sleep/Rchg(25), FtnHyp-Acc/Sleep/Rchg(25), FtnHyp-Acc/Rchg(27), FtnHyp-Sleep/EndRdx(27)
Level 12: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 14: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A)
Level 16: Clear Mind -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Recall Friend -- Range-I(A)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(29), P'Shift-End%(29), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(46)
Level 22: Fortitude -- HO:Cyto(A), HO:Cyto(31), HO:Cyto(31), LkGmblr-Rchg+(31), Krma-ResKB(33)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(33), RechRdx-I(33)
Level 26: Terrify -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(34), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), Posi-Dam%(36), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 28: Recovery Aura -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36), RechRdx-I(37)
Level 30: Super Speed -- HO:Micro(A)
Level 32: Mass Confusion -- CoPers-Conf/Rchg(A), CoPers-Acc/Conf/Rchg(37), CoPers-Acc/Rchg(37), CoPers-Conf/EndRdx(39), CoPers-Conf%(39)
Level 35: Regeneration Aura -- Mrcl-Heal/Rchg(A), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(40), RechRdx-I(45), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(50)
Level 38: Adrenalin Boost -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(39), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(40), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(40)
Level 41: Indomitable Will -- LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(42), LkGmblr-Rchg+(42), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(42), RechRdx-I(43)
Level 44: Mind Over Body -- TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45), TtmC'tng-ResDam(45)
Level 47: Psionic Tornado -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(48), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Dam%(50), FrcFbk-Rechg%(50)
Level 49: Hover -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- ULeap-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 0: LEGACY BUILD

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What you want most of all with an Emp is recharge. For any heal you have the slots to blow on, i recommend Doctored wounds 5. For heal aura and heal other, leave out the recharge, because they both should be fast enough.

For AB, I recommend 6 slots. Doctored wounds 5 (leave out the pure heal) and one end mod. End mod is important for AB, because it pushes you over 1000% recharge which will cancel out a nuke crash.

For fort, the HOs are the best, with one optional to stick in another LotG.

Slot for +Recharge

With my Emp/Psi as a main and badge hunter, I've spent a lot of cash, so having an idea of your resources would help a lot.

My final build below which is what I play at the moment.

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Mellenta: Level 50 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Empathy
Secondary Power Set: Psychic Blast
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Flight
Ancillary Pool: Psychic Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Healing Aura -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(3), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(3), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Dct'dW-Heal(13)
Level 1: Mental Blast -- Entrpc-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Entrpc-Acc/Dmg(5), Entrpc-Dmg/Rchg(7), Entrpc-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Entrpc-Heal%(9), Dev'n-Hold%(11)
Level 2: Absorb Pain -- Dct'dW-Rchg(A)
Level 4: Heal Other -- Dct'dW-Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(5), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(11), Dct'dW-Heal(15)
Level 6: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(19)
Level 8: Stealth -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 10: Psychic Scream -- Ragnrk-Knock%(A), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(21), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(21), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(23)
Level 12: Fortitude -- RedFtn-Def(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(15), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(17), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(17), RedFtn-EndRdx(23), LkGmblr-Rchg+(25)
Level 14: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 16: Telekinetic Blast -- Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(29), Apoc-Dmg(29), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(31), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Dev'n-Hold%(43)
Level 18: Recovery Aura -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(31)
Level 20: Will Domination -- Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(33), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Decim-Acc/Dmg(34), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Dev'n-Hold%(40)
Level 22: Clear Mind -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 24: Tactics -- AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(A), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(25), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(27), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx(27), AdjTgt-ToHit(33), GSFC-Build%(48)
Level 26: Regeneration Aura -- Dct'dW-Heal(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(34), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(36), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 28: Resurrect -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 30: Fly -- Winter-RunSpd/Jump/Fly/Rng/EndRdx(A)
Level 32: Adrenalin Boost -- Dct'dW-Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal(37), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(37), EndMod-I(40)
Level 35: Scramble Thoughts -- Amaze-Stun(A), Amaze-EndRdx/Stun(37), Amaze-Stun/Rchg(39), Amaze-Acc/Stun/Rchg(39), Amaze-Acc/Rchg(39)
Level 38: Psychic Wail -- Armgdn-Dam%(A), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg(43), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(46)
Level 41: Dominate -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(42), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Lock-%Hold(50)
Level 44: Mass Hypnosis -- FtnHyp-Sleep/EndRdx(A), FtnHyp-Plct%(45), FtnHyp-Sleep(45), FtnHyp-Sleep/Rchg(45), FtnHyp-Acc/Sleep/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Mind Over Body -- ResDam-I(A), EndRdx-I(48), ResDam-I(48)
Level 49: Vengeance -- GftotA-Def/Rchg(A), GftotA-Run+(50), Rec'dRet-Pcptn(50)
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Spiritual Core Paragon
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Vigilance
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Heal-I(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A)

Hasten is back in 111 seconds with just 2 recharge slots, which gives you an idea of how much recharge is in here. I can keep Fortitude on 6 people comfortably. Attack wise, with so much recharge, I can chain 3 single target attacks with the cone comfortably, negating the need for more from the secondary.

However, it's a big budget build, but now extremely fun to play. With only a 30 second downtime on the aura's and T4 Clarion, I'm indestructible.

If you do a search for my Emp/Psi guide, there are a few more budget based builds on there that I put together recently. Most of the secondaries take ranged damage sets which would be interchangable with Energy. My benefit is having a hold in my secondary as well as my Epic, and with both of those taking extra hold procs, that makes a big difference. This might change your strategy slightly.

-H