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So, this was a purely theoretical build, to see close I could get to the soft cap using "poor man" IOs. By "poor man", I'm referring to non-purple, non-multi million inf. enhancements.
Anyhow, I was surprised to actually hit it, but I'm not a blaster. I'm not terribly familiar with blaster sets, or how they play, or what you're really supposed to slot for, so I became curious. Below is a theoretical build that soft caps Ranged Defense. How practical would this build actually be to play, in game? Are there things that could be dropped to improve it? Different sets I could try? Slotting in different order? The slots themselves are fairly sloppy, I think, and were rather haphazardly throw around to get defense bonuses where I could.
Basically, can y'all help me tear this build down and see if any of it actually works? Thanks in advance.
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Jasper Kraine: Level 50 Mutation Blaster
Primary Power Set: Energy Blast
Secondary Power Set: Energy Manipulation
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Munitions Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Power Bolt -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(3), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7)
Level 1: Power Thrust -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(9), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), Mako-Dam%(11)
Level 2: Power Blast -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(13), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(13), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17)
Level 4: Build Up -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(17), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(19), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(19), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(21), GSFC-Build%(21)
Level 6: Power Burst -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(23), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(23), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(25), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27)
Level 8: Swift -- Flight-I(A)
Level 10: Bone Smasher -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(27), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(29), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Mako-Dam%(31)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- DefBuff-I(A)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(31)
Level 16: Aim -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Health -- Heal-I(A)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 22: Energy Torrent -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(36), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(36), Posi-Dmg/Rng(36), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), Posi-Dam%(37)
Level 24: Power Push -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(37), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(39), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 26: Explosive Blast -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(40), Posi-Dmg/Rng(42), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), Posi-Dam%(42)
Level 28: Power Boost -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(34)
Level 30: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 32: Nova -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(33), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(33), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), Sciroc-Dam%(34)
Level 35: Boost Range -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 38: Total Focus -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(43), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(43), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(43), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), Mako-Dam%(45)
Level 41: Body Armor -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45), RctvArm-ResDam(46), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(48)
Level 44: Cryo Freeze Ray -- Lock-Acc/Hold(A), Lock-Acc/Rchg(46), Lock-Rchg/Hold(46), Lock-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(48), Lock-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(48), Lock-%Hold(50)
Level 47: Sleep Grenade -- LgcRps-Acc/Rchg(A), LgcRps-Acc/EndRdx(50), LgcRps-Acc/Sleep/Rchg(50)
Level 49: Maneuvers -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
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Quote:Funny, 'cause he was kinda trying to point out that your own post was a little inflammatory. 'S your ePeen, though, so do what you will with it.Originally Posted by Judas_Ace
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Quote:Westley's gotten pretty good at running Shard TFs, and he's even written a guide about how to make them manageable. Having read it, I'd play through any of them with him.Originally Posted by Iannis
I don't really believe someone could knock out that godawful doctor q. TF in under 4 hours. And that's, like, speedrun speed where you don't have people go AFK or the leader accidentally DCs and whoops the next in line group member fell asleep! enjoy your wasted effort...
Shadow Shard TFs need revamped SO HARD. It would please me immensely if the Shard was also getting attention paid to in Going Rogue, but I seriously doubt it. Revamping Rularuu and having some kind of awesome raid against the Cathedral of Pain (blow up the deathstar! scrap whatever Statesman's crummy PvP idea using the name was about) could be an xpac in itself.
Also, I imagine if anyone's gotten under a 4 hour time, he'd know. -
Quote:I sure hope there's padding on the inside. Otherwise there'll be bruising like a metaphor I don't have.Originally Posted by ebon3
Yeah impervium laced unobtanium is the way to go!
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Quote:Yeah, that's not a -wait, what?! When did cat girls go lesbian? That's news to me.Originally Posted by Golden Girl
But as all catgirls are lesbians, wouldn't they be more of a one-generation-then-they're-gone type of species?
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Quote:Actually, that's +5 to everyone who's not 50. But you're right, fighting +5s at level 7 is a lot more futile than it is at level 37.Originally Posted by Vega
Rikti on the ship are 54, that's +5 to a lowbie.
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Quote:Or you could have characters like a few of mine, which can survive x8 damage, but don't really have the output to make it worth the effort.Originally Posted by Muon_Neutrino
I think by 'farm-capable' Ian meant 'able to safely solo at x8', because that's not exactly a common ability. If you're more of a support type, or don't have good multi-target soloing sets or whatever IOs you might need, it could be rather difficult to get through x8 rikti missions without faceplanting continually.
To the matter at hand: I agree that prices are a bit high. If I'm helping Dark Watcher on some top-secret missions to protect the fate of two different worlds, you'd think they'd be quite willing to pony up a set of armor to help me along the way. -
Quote:Actually, it just occurred to me that you have no End Reduction in your attacks. That's, well, that could hurt you pretty heavy-like. I'd stick with Conserve Power.
Conserve Power is only up for a minute and a half out of every four and a half minutes so I was thinking more about using it during long drawn out battles like GM's or AV's. Frankly I'd be more inclined to drop Conserve Power, if I didn't need either it or Focused Accuracy to get Physical Perfection. I suppose I'd be better off with FA.
Ok so swapping Conserve for FA with all toggles running I'll be burning 1.78 end/sec and generating 2.91/s for a net gain of 1.13/s + whatever the End Procs bring in, which ought to be enough to keep attacking without running dry of end in most battles. Figuring that I'll likely only be running FA occasionally anyhow. Is this wrong?
Combat Jumping, friend. It's ~2.5 Defense, and the cheapest toggle in the game. It'll drop Ninja Run, but the bind to swap between them is truly elementary. If Combat Jumping won't do it for you, Maneuvers provides a few points, though out a much higher endurance cost.Quote:Curses. I was thinking about SS stacking wih stealth and with stealh IO's, and somehow tranferred that to them stacking with each other. Crappy thing about dropping Stealth is I'll no longer be soft capped... Hrm. Decisions...
Eh... that comment about the slotting being sloppy came from an earlier set of comments on the build. I'd put more emphasis on attacks and toggles and less on passives, as well as throw in a few sets for the bonuses, even on a cheap build. A little bit of bias crept in, but pay it no mind.Quote:Hrm. How so? Just the endurance issue? I'm generally under he impression that you need all the end you can get.
Unfortunately, Katana's better chains require a bit more than that. GD->GC->DA->GC->SD->GC->DA->GC->GD takes, if I recall, around 45% global, and it only increases from there. Werner would know the ins and outs of that better than I, but the skinny is, you'll need some sets to get the higher chains.Quote:Is there something else wrong with the slotting? Is there much need for putting recharge reds in mi attacks? Katana is a pretty fast recharging set. I think my longest recharge time is 11 seconds, and what with a possible 6 attack chain, I wouldn't think I'll ever be without some attack ready. -
Quote:DA can be double-stacked out of the box. An /SR needs no extra defense from that particular power. Crushing Impact gives better bonuses.Originally Posted by Verene
Was just a suggestion mostly for some added help in leveling. No reason really you need it at all at 50 with softcap and over 100 defense debuff resistance, cept that it's a nice place to stick yet another Lotg recharge or since you're skipping travel a Gift of the Ancients run speed. Course with SR as a secondary it's not like you're hurting for defense slots
Also: Stealth does not stack with a stealth IO. No dice there, I'm afraid.
As to the build itself: It's a common IO build, with one or two choice set IOs thrown in to taste. I agree with Verene that Health is more important than a second tier one from Fitness, and that stealth is a good power to drop it for. However, you've mentioned this is a build to maximize your ability to use Ninja Run, on the cheap, it seems, so I trust that;s a decision you've long since made.
Power wise, I don't see any real mistakes, though your slotting is a bit sloppy. As it stands, you regain 2.31 endurance a second with all your toggles runnning. On top of that, you have conserve power, which means you've overslotted Physical Perfection by a good margin. My recommendation would be to drop some slots there, and bring your attacks up to six slots, so that you can put a Recharge Reduction IO in them.
Other than that, it appears to be fine. There're only so many ways to slot basic SOs, so there isn't much to say on the subject. It should work for what you want fine. -
Quote:I'm pretty darn certain you can't add GMs into an AE mission. 'Twould be simply too abusable, no?Originally Posted by FireWyvern
Not the right place to ask that but.... can you add GMs in AE missions?
Cause while U'kon Grai mean be do-able, the setting is just too horrible. You'd have an army of +4 riktis helping him, so a mix of slashing, energy, fire and psy damage. =/
Anyone managed to beat one of the DE monster? With insps, it might be do-able, specialy since some of them have weakness IIRC.
As to the question of De Monsters: I believe, back in the day, some folks were able to drop them like they were AVs, or some such. Slash Monkey, if I recall correctly. I don't know if that still holds true. -
Quote:Lusca doesn't run, but she deals a goodly amount of Toxic, I believe, which might be a problem of she lands any hits on you. There's also the whole Gotta-Kill-All-The-Arms thing.Originally Posted by Nihilii
The AV, definitely.
I don't see any scrapper being able to take out a GM without insps/temps. I used to think a Fire/Shield could take out the weaker ones with AaO saturated, but GMs would run and mess things up wouldn't they ?
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Quote:Katana got one of the new swords.Originally Posted by Imaheroe
Some nice new chinese swords in broadsword (and DB for that matter). Dont know if kat has the new swords.
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Quote:Was that the AV or the GM? And, for that matter, has any scrapper taken out a GM?
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I ship Jay/Rest of the World.
So that maybe, one day, he'll make it to me...
Also: Lusca/Sushi Girls. It seems like a safe bet, no? -
Quote:You are a monster and are going to hell.Originally Posted by BBQ_Pork
That was either a typo or I practice eleven-fingered typing.
Your pick.
Would you rather envision that my typing is inaccurate, or pantsless?
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Quote:You presume I am residing in Paragon City out of some sentimental attachment to it, or a desire to see it improve. To the best of my knowledge, my greatest success in the city, the one act I performed that benefited the city and could not have been performed by a different hero instead, was failing to stop Crey Industries from increasing my powers.Originally Posted by BBQ_Pork
My fellow heroes,
I have heard the rumblings and mumblings that some of us intend to travel to Preatorian Earth to join some resistance group to overthrow it's current government. Now, I'll admid that it must be tempting to do.
But what right do we have to travel to another dimension to tell them how thier government must be run? We are the city that produced Mayor "Spanky" Robinowitz for goodness' sake.
I'm not trying to crush your dreams of reliving WWII fantasies of joining the French Resistance and being the one who removed that dictator from power.
Our job here is not done.
We can't abandon our city to fight over there.
Giant Monsters wander our ports, our sewers and even our city parks.
Despite all our best efforts, the Hamidon is barely pushed back to a stalemate.
The Rikti are somewhat contained in the RWZ, but occasionally stream forth to fall from the skies like hail.
Our citizens are still getting mugged on the streets and thugs from the Rogue Isles still infiltrate our city to rob our banks and cause general mayhem before slinking off into the night.
If we get involved over there and fail, we will start an interdimensional war that we cannot afford.
But let's say that you do succeed over there? Who is going to rule? What system are we going to set up? They will probably end up with chaos, and have the strongest rogue claw his way up to being the next Emperor Cole.
Yes, I guess you can call me an Isolationist.
Awesome Possum, Hero of the City.
No, cities will rise and fall on their merits, not mine. I have no attachment to this one, and so I will join the battle on a new front.
Good day,
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I was going to post some suggestions for what you could possibly do but - OH DEAR GAWD, that.... giant travesty, piece of **** thing masquerading as the anthromorpification of ugly in all its resplendent terror, has convinced me that I don't want to think about it. Ever.
In fact, why don't you PM me your response to this thread, so I don't have to see those damn pictures again. Please? -
Quote:If, by pragmatism, you are referring to John Dewey's theory of Moral Pragmatism, I disagree. Tyrant is not a man attempting to do something in order to make the situation better. He has quite carefully considered what steps his empire has taken, I think, which is part of the argument for his utilitarian views: his empire is very deliberately structured the way it is.Originally Posted by Schismatrix
Cole seems more pragmatic than utilitarian to me, but perhaps i'm misunderstanding things. It certainly seems that he's bent on protecting the people under his rule as well as possible from the many and powerful threats to their well-being. His policies regarding surveillance and metahumans 'management' make a certain sort of sense in a world largely devastated by metahuman powers run wild. After all, Primal Earth DE can infect and subvert normal humans, while the Praetorian DE are far more dangerous, and Cole's own actions against enemy states clearly show how great a threat uncontrolled superpowers could be to his empire, especially if allowed to operate from within.
i have to admit to being a little puzzled by the social Darwinist elements implied in some of the material. By some accounts it sounds as if people advance within their occupations in Cole's empire by defeating their superiors by any means possible, up to and including murder. Yet by other accounts it sounds more like a meritocracy, where demonstrating superior ability allows you to take your superior's place. The popular version of social Darwinism espouses the former, while the more accurate use of the concept would imply the latter.
The two approaches are also somewhat contradictory as being good at sabotaging, murdering and betraying your way to the top when employed in the transit department doesn't necessarily mean you'll be at all competent at managing traffic flow once you become the general manager. Nor does it bode well for the usefulness of the skillsets of those below you if you delegate the responsibility to them. After all, they're advancing the same way you are.
If, however, you simply mean pragmatism as the concept of choosing practicality over principles, then I suppose you are right, but that's a rather consequentialist argument in and of itself, no? -
Ya know, Joyce, for all the claims you're making that Cole's a utilitarian, and thus potentially a good person, you're using an awful lot of deontological arguments to justify your position.
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Yeah, ya got me. Well played, sir. Well played.
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Quote:I realize it might be different across the pond, but that statement tacitly implies Resistance members are heroes in American English. Just a thought.Originally Posted by Golden Girl
That's not the action of a real Hero
I lol'd.Quote:I got bored in the first few words of your post and stopped reading it.
I just wanted to tell you that my 6 year old neighbor could have written a more entertaining complaint.
Word. And protestations that you're actually laughing at our SRS BSNS responses tend to ring a bit hollow. See? I can subtly set up a straw man, too.Quote:Look, we all realize it sucks. That's old news. Really old news. What we are taking issue with is the inflammatory tone of your posts. Ranting and raving isn't going to accomplish anything other than getting people pissed off at you.Quote:Post Deleted by Moderator_08 -
Quote:Playin' CoX drunk? Now there's an idea.Originally Posted by Santorican
Hurray for drunk posting!
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Quote:I dig what you say here, but consider something.Originally Posted by Bright Shadow
The issue is, if inspiration cross-trading becomes a reality, over time, Inspirations will be used as a universal currency. They have one thing special that neither infamy, nor influence have: ability to go to both red and blue side. They can be used as a method to transfer infamy over to blue side, and transfer influence over to red side. If this happens, there is no point in keeping markets disjoint anymore.
For inspirations to have cross-market value, they need to attain value in relation to influence/infamy. I don't think they can, because we can procure them cheaply (AE tickets), but we cannot carry them in bulk (Set inventory size). What this means is, We either need to inspirations to be attainable in bulk, so as to offset their ability to be easily procured, or they need to increase in value to be useful as a means of exchanging influence, which cannot happen while they are so easy to procure.
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Quote:Okay, so, I'm not an ebil marketeer, and most of this seems more than a little abstract to me. However, if I read what you're saying right, it looks to be that your argument is that taking two objects that were previously exclusive, and making them partially interinfluencial, will lead through a string of consequences that ultimately unhinge the market's structure?Originally Posted by Bright Shadow
That's not the issue.
As of now, there is no way at all to convert infamy to influence. The supply and demand on the blue side is completely separate from the red side. Infamy never crosses to blue side, and influence never crosses to red side. The total amount of influence on both sides are completely independent on one another.
Now, the moment a SINGLE item defies that rule, the entire market would lose this structure. How?
By using that items to 'transfer' infamy to blue side, or influence to red side. I can simply buy inspiration from blue side, decrease the supply on blue side, and decrease my own influence. Then I transfer all inspirations to red side. I sell them back to the market on red side, increasing the supply of red side inspirations, and increasing my own infamy. I haven't actually EARNED any inspirations on either side. I have manipulated the market of BOTH sides without the contribution of ANYONE else. See the flaw?
Now, I'm not saying this is actually wrong and should not be done. I'm in favor of market merging. But considering how developers are against market merging, this IS a flaw.
Sure, inspirations aren't significant to market right now, but if cross-trading of inspirations is true, then they will be used as a form of universal currency in the market that can go on either side.
The only way to allow inspiration cross-trading and keep markets disjoint is to remove inspirations from the markets entirely.
I'm trying not to set up a straw man, but it seems that if something like Inspirations, which are already available AE store for a mere one ticket, were going to wreck the market, we'd have seen signs of it somewhere else previously. If systems don't suddenly develop breaking points, but rather, have them exposed, then it would seem we'd have seen ramifications of this somewhere else.
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Quote:Insufficient data for analysis. While Tyrant may have succeeded in creating such a utopia, as you claim, your argument is both biased in his favor, and provides no clarifying details that are necessary for discourse.Originally Posted by UnSub
Tyrant is actually the greatest hero in existence since he has pretty much eradicated crime and created a society that provides for all.
Discuss.