FireWyvern

At lvl 50, maybe. But on the way, MA will have better DPS since you'll be at low recharge. (starting IOs around 30 will help with recharge, but most people won't have LoTG that soon, and you can't have purples yet.)

I choosed the results are in 2 because i was quoting about getting to 50.

Yeah, didn't think of the Achilles Heel proc. I almost never play lethal sets. =/

Sorry, i asumed that you were still talking of ST damage. IMO, i really don't believe elec's nrg damage will make up for MA's +40% DPS. Specialy considering, both can select missions against something that doesn't heavily resist his damage.

Actually, MA is a hell lot better at ST then /elec. It's even better then kat and db. (the results are in 2)


For the OP, i tried elec/wp (on a brute) and the ST was too lacking for me. I deleted it around lvl 33. It was actually very survivable, and did well on huge mobs. But it was annoying for bosses and painfull on EBs.

Personally, DM is the most fun set i've tried. The heal and end power means you can pair it with pretty much any secondary. The ST is awesome, and while it lacks a bit in AoE damage, if you're really into that, you'll have a saturated soul drain + shadow maul for aoe. That an your epic. (specialy if you switch with the PPP, very good aoe for brutes, wich scrapper might get.)

While you can do it, it's very impratical. When i started playing, i used to try doing it, but the next day, i'd just log in to see people quitted or didn't log on at the schedulled time.
It's even worst when not everyone is from the same time zone. =/


Yep, i did the Shards TF. I'm not going to do them again, even if some weren't that bad. It's a lot easier to find a one-shot 4-5 hours though. Because when you start it, you know you'll finish it "no matter what". You can't actually fail them aside from having too many people quit.

The speed TFs i'm used to are usually extremely reckless, to try beat the "best time". With LRSF, STF, we also use some shivans, nukes and/or vengeance.

Sounds like a good plan...except that my playstyle is extremely different when i'm trying an Mo and just running for fun. I'll jump first in spawn or leeroy the AV for the rush of it, and to test just how far i can push myself. I normally don't mind dying, specialy if someone can rez in the team. It's more stressfull trying not to die at all cost.






Anyway, that's just my opinion and why i don't like them personnaly.

P.S. If someone else answered to me, sorry! I stopped reading the topic cause it got so huge in one shot...

If it's not, you'll be an insane monster. =D
DM/invuln is my favorite and best AV-soloer. And it costed me less then my main brute.

That's what i think. There's just too many condition needed to make it possible.

You need to find 7 other badgers, on the same server/side, that can team at the same time. You all need to be free for a long time, knowing you won't be interrupted. (normal STF can be done in less then hour, most Mo i've seen took 2h-3h at least.)

There's a lot of type of badges.

1) Challenging: Special fights, GM, AV ,etc. (LR with towers, Reischman, Rom's last fight, 8 clones)
But you can always retry them automatically if you fail. You aren't forced to go back through 1-2 hours of play.

2)Huge team/dependant on players: Among friends, special events (banner events), hami raid. Or the arena pvp badges. The hard part is to find enough people that want the badge.

3)Timed: Efficiency expert, some trials, banner/winter events, ouroboros challenge.

4)Long to get: Day jobs, defeats with high numbers, some TFs. You can do them in multiple shot though. The few that are extremely impratical to do in multiple shots (the shards TF) are actually very easy. They are just long.

5) Special skill: Skiing badge. There might be others, but i can't think of them.

6) Presence badge: Anniversary, exploration and spend X time in a zone.

7)Underdebuff/enemy buffed: Ouroboros challenge.

8) No death: Ouroboros Challenge and Mo.

My probablem is that Mo badges stack almost all the type of "difficulty". And it's often just frustrating.

Since it can be clearly one person's fault, there's often griefing.
If the player forget to use the temp against Ms Liberty in LRSF, and a team wipe ensure, there's normaly no problem, you just hosp and try again. If someone forget to click on his stone in the cavern trial, no problem, you just wait 15 secs and count down again.


I also don't really get why people say: "It's challenging, it's fun."
There's a lot less frustrating ways to find a challenge.
And if you really wanted the biggest challenge, why not try STF or LRSF , on +4, while debuffed and with the enemies buffed, no temps, no insps and no enhancements?
That would surely be challenging, no?

P.S. I've got the BSF/khan , LRSF, STF, and red-ITF Mo badges. It might have only taken a few try (or just one) to get them. It's finding good players that want to bother with it that's the hardest for me. I've had to wait months before i could get on one for some.

Are you on virtue? I saw someone do it once, jumped directly on numina.

"Why did this guy just warn all the heroes we're here? O.O "

Even when the other player quitted, i wouldn't always get to the next round.

Except that almost any combo can solo "an AV" and you really don't need several thousands merits and a couple billion influence.

500 merits and 2-3 billions is more then enough.

Actually, he never mentionned not using inspirations. So he can get away with even less ressources and picking a worst combo.


You really love exagerating?

According to what you quoted yourself, you're WRONG.

Irresistible force...dish out all sorts of damage...

Resilient, best AT at withstanding damage after Tanker.



Next time, make sure what you quote actually support your narrow-minded view of the game. =P




To the OP: I'd love to see ice melee and armor for both scrappers and brutes.

That's my first lvl 50. It works really well, you almost always hit thanks to rage and good mitigation with all the knock*. But... aoe is truely inexistant before 32. So if it's really important for you, it might be painfull.


DM have a really good ST damage. With soul drain saturated, it's the best. The damage type is half dark half smashing, so not as resisted.
But most importantly, you have a heal, a endurance recovery power and a huge mitigation with Touch of Fear. Oh, and quick animations, wich saved my life when soloing Protean.
It pairs well with pretty much any secondary since it covers lots of holes.

EM have only one aoe, and it's small and not very good. It's probably the worst of all brute primaries at aoe damage.


Yep, only rooted and granite gives -speed and they are in the secondary.

That would be a huge error. Focus is your best DPS attack, offers mitigation and is even ranged. Aside from unyielding, i'd say it's your most important power on claw/invuln.

Yeah, but invuln is half resistance , half defense. =P My point was just that if you want to compare brute vs tanker, at least use the same power set.


You'll have the same problem if it's a tanker that points dangerous mobs towards the team. And if he have taunt, you might not even be able to steal the aggro with taunt.


That doesn't answer my question. Whirling Sword and Dust Devils are more then enough to 2 shots some squishies. That's why i meant facing doesn't really matter. He'll still hurt the team, no matter where he's looking. Any way to prevent that?

Same could be said about an invuln brute vs a fire tanker against cimerorans, or a defense tanker vs resistance brute vs DE. =P

Why couldn't the scrapper reposition the AV so others don't get killed? That's what i do on mine and i've seen it fairly often. If the scrapper have the aggro, it can do the job equally well then the tanker, for repositionning.

For scirocco... i've yet to see a case where facing makes a difference. He keep spamming pbaoe and the Dust Devils are homing. =P

Like Aett pointed out, it was a long time before all IM's buffs. Fury also got changed at one point to make it degrade slower.

But most importantly, it's laughtable that IM would be "too harmfull to fury" but the other primaries wouldn't.

SM, SS, BA, WM, claws all have enough KB to almost permanently take out a mob.
EM can stack 1-2 enemies very reliably.

Ice Melee, wouldnt change that the enemie still get a full attack chain before -rech starts to work. Even then, the enemy will still attack, just slower. If 3-4 attacks X number of mobs is not enough to give a headstart with your fury, there's a huge problem. Just by attacking, you can keep it up there.

All good in this case. =)

I often use trollers and defenders as exemple, cause it's the only one that are well known to have done insane things repetetively.
Same as you, i don't really care what's in the team, if everyone is capable of handing there share and adapt there playstyle to each new team makes up. Sure support is nice, but a good team can do without. =)