Ok, a bit of bitterness here: I've spent since December 2008 to get a specific exploit shut down. I've not told any other player how to do it, I've /bugged it several times, PM'd it directly to a community rep (and answered the relayed QA Team's questions), PM'd the entire proceeding conversations to Positron (at his request) over a year ago, and during this beta I told Ocho about it. The bug still exists and it I can still repeat the process to activate the bug in question (yes, detailed instructions given back in 2008 still work), but the exploit has been shut down with a recent test change.
In addition, I've helped compile (and find/report a few more) badge bugs list for the developers to fix. I have not gotten the Bug Hunter badge on a single character.
So congratulations on the Bug Hunter badge, but after all the disappointment in trying to get the badge, I have to ask myself if it is worth the bother to ever report another bug again.
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So would i get this badge, tell me, i am standing to 642 badges right now, I most no.
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My story isn't quite in-depth as yours, but I agree. I feel like I've been part of at least a few bugs that were deserving of it, but I gave up on it ages ago as well.|
Originally Posted by Snow Globe
So congratulations on the Bug Hunter badge, but after all the disappointment in trying to get the badge, I have to ask myself if it is worth the bother to ever report another bug again.
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Gratz to Leo anyway!
super grats !
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I share your pain, Snow. I have reported many a bug from the relatively harmless to mildly annoying, to the game breaking. Many fixed, one or two still linger, but I've written this badge off. If it comes to me in the future that's dandy, but I'm not holding my breath.|
Originally Posted by Snow Globe
Ok, a bit of bitterness here: I've spent since December 2008 to get a specific exploit shut down. I've not told any other player how to do it, I've /bugged it several times, PM'd it directly to a community rep (and answered the relayed QA Team's questions), PM'd the entire proceeding conversations to Positron (at his request) over a year ago, and during this beta I told Ocho about it. The bug still exists and it I can still repeat the process to activate the bug in question (yes, detailed instructions given back in 2008 still work), but the exploit has been shut down with a recent test change.
In addition, I've helped compile (and find/report a few more) badge bugs list for the developers to fix. I have not gotten the Bug Hunter badge on a single character. So congratulations on the Bug Hunter badge, but after all the disappointment in trying to get the badge, I have to ask myself if it is worth the bother to ever report another bug again. |
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Congratulations, Leo!!
Personally, I rank this badge with Passport: It doesn't exist. >.>
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Congratulations, Leo!!
Personally, I rank this badge with Passport: It doesn't exist. >.> |
Yes I agree with you Kheld. Even though I already have the Bug Hunter badge, its like hitting the lotto to be honest. I think the badge should be for finding 10 legit bugs that are fixed. That way it has a more realistic future of being earned by even a casual player.
As for Passport, they should just remove this badge all together, there is no way to earn this unless you get it through a bug that happens to award it to you. Or change the requirements to a simple server switch of a character, at least we have a way to earn it and possibly make NcSoft some money for purchasing a server switch
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as for passport, they should...
...change the requirements to a simple server switch of a character, at least we have a way to earn it and possibly make ncsoft some money for purchasing a server switch |
Congratulations Leo!!
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Originally Posted by Kheldarn
Personally, I rank this badge with Passport: It doesn't exist. >.>
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Originally Posted by Beef_Cake
Yes I agree with you Kheld. Even though I already have the Bug Hunter badge, its like hitting the lotto to be honest. I think the badge should be for finding 10 legit bugs that are fixed. That way it has a more realistic future of being earned by even a casual player.
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Originally Posted by Beef_Cake
As for Passport, they should just remove this badge all together, there is no way to earn this unless you get it through a bug that happens to award it to you. Or change the requirements to a simple server switch of a character, at least we have a way to earn it and possibly make NcSoft some money for purchasing a server switch
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I would hazard a guess that would be a nightmare for the developers to track.|
Originally Posted by Beef_Cake
Yes I agree with you Kheld. Even though I already have the Bug Hunter badge, its like hitting the lotto to be honest. I think the badge should be for finding 10 legit bugs that are fixed. That way it has a more realistic future of being earned by even a casual player.
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Originally Posted by Beef_Cake
As for Passport, they should just remove this badge all together, there is no way to earn this unless you get it through a bug that happens to award it to you. Or change the requirements to a simple server switch of a character, at least we have a way to earn it and possibly make NcSoft some money for purchasing a server switch
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Well, we got free server transfers once. We might get them again. In which case, it's a "buy it now" badge if you want to pay for a transfer, or a "wait for the event" badge if you want to wait until the next batch of free server transfers.
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Originally Posted by Snow Globe
Yuck. It would be yet another purchased badge at that point.
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It may be a pain to track, but it was an idea. As for the Passport, I would pay with no problems, I don't mind spending a little bit of money towards the game I've played for the past 6 years. I'd like to see it go another 6, so giving the game money to ensure its survival, I don't have a problem doing that. Plus I get a badge for it as well, so I get to enjoy both the game and the badge |
Originally Posted by Snow Globe
I would hazard a guess that would be a nightmare for the developers to track.
Yuck. It would be yet another purchased badge at that point. |
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Grats Leandro!
Even though I'm in the same boat as Snow Globe and Master-Blade (I've reported plenty of bugs and even a couple exploits along with repeatable steps, one of which still exists on test right now), I think it's great that you've earned the unearnable. Enjoy it man! 
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True. I'm almost to the point of providing everyone with the exact details of the bug I found seeing that the exploitable portion of the bug was locked up.|
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It may be a pain to track, but it was an idea.
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As for the Passport, I would pay with no problems, I don't mind spending a little bit of money towards the game I've played for the past 6 years.
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I'd like to see it go another 6, so giving the game money to ensure its survival, I don't have a problem doing that. Plus I get a badge for it as well, so I get to enjoy both the game and the badge
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If you get them to make those 2 badges available to us, I'll buy your server transfer so you can get it too. lol
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Originally Posted by Snow Globe
I've been here for 5 years, but I'm facing a very fixed income at the moment. While I have saved enough to pay for my next year's subscription, I simply cannot afford to buy any add on packs in the near future.
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If you get them to make those 2 badges available to us, I'll buy your server transfer so you can get it too. lol
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Seriously!
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If you get them to make those 2 badges available to us, I'll buy your server transfer so you can get it too. lol
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And I would pitch in as well
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It's posts like these that show why it was a bad idea to create the Bug Hunter badge. See also: The old Dev's Choice badge.
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Originally Posted by Snow Globe
Ok, a bit of bitterness here: I've spent since December 2008 to get a specific exploit shut down. I've not told any other player how to do it, I've /bugged it several times, PM'd it directly to a community rep (and answered the relayed QA Team's questions), PM'd the entire proceeding conversations to Positron (at his request) over a year ago, and during this beta I told Ocho about it. The bug still exists and it I can still repeat the process to activate the bug in question (yes, detailed instructions given back in 2008 still work), but the exploit has been shut down with a recent test change.
In addition, I've helped compile (and find/report a few more) badge bugs list for the developers to fix. I have not gotten the Bug Hunter badge on a single character. So congratulations on the Bug Hunter badge, but after all the disappointment in trying to get the badge, I have to ask myself if it is worth the bother to ever report another bug again. |
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Grats, Leo. You work ridiculously hard to beta their work, and it's nice to see it pay off for you.
Not twice, tho. For that, you svck. Srsly, you shoulda put that badge on a villain so you could block out the red badge market as well. lol, nub.
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I once wondered if I deserved Bug Hunter for all the ATI work I did, especially now that after all this time those issues are going away.
Then I decided that I didn't deserve squat for that work that I hadn't already received in the way of thanks from folks.
Course... I think my main "badge hunter" still has less than 300 badges after 5+ years of playing, so... no biggee.
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Gratz Leandro!
However, i aggree with lots of the other posts. Because of the way Bug_Hunter work, i don't really consider it to exist. And it's the big reason why i don't bother filling bug reports.
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Not much point in being coy about it now.
Anyway I've got a few words about badges like Bug Hunter and Passport:
Bug Hunter:
As I've always said I'd have no problem at all with Bug Hunter if it was a badge that was awarded by fixed objective requirements that were NOT dependant on human intervention. Something like Beef's idea of "finding 10 legit bugs that are fixed" might be pretty hard to track like Snow Globe mentioned, but that would be infinitely perferable to having a badge totally dependant on the whims of the Devs. I don't care how benelovent or "fair" the Devs might be - having ANY badge based purely on human decree is fundamentally flawed and rife with favoritism intentional or otherwise. This I why I consider its existence a sad joke in this game and also why I believe many people legitimately "pretend" it doesn't exist.
Ultimately I have no doubt that anyone who has a Bug Hunter right now deserves it and I'm aware in Leandro's particular case that he does spend a lot of time and effort in this game's closed betas so congrats to him for what it's worth. I just wish I could respect the whole Bug Hunter badge concept more than I do.
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As for Passport and the related idea of "paying for badges" I probably wouldn't mind it. I don't have a problem giving the Devs a bit of extra money in principle. I'm silly like that. Lord knows many people basically paid for badges like Power Liberator when they decided to server hop to get to SGs which had illegitimately mangaged to keep their Items of Power longer than they should have been able to.
But our esteemed Positron himself laughed at the idea of paying for badges and has openly mocked people who would be willing to do that. In fact back when server transfers first happened and some people suggested a server transfer badge he specifically joked that he would call such a badge the "I paid money for this badge" badge. If the Devs would really consider me a stupid weirdo for being willing to do that I'm not sure I'd want to be the butt of another badge-oriented practical joke. Thanks but no thanks. *shrugs*
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