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So what advantages do brutes have over scrappers? and what situations would a brute shine over a scrap, solo and or on teams.
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alright then. well given there is one boss per mission usually out side many CoT mishs and that being 10%, and about three minions per group, with 5% chance to crit each one, and maybe a few 1LT and 1 minion group with ten and 5% chance to crit, I dont see how it would be very low prob to crit only once in a mish. Then again, low probability it might be just as low probablity for very rare recipes to drop but some people do get three or two per mish at times, while some people get one per mish while some people never seen a purp, and others maybe got two total out of a whole stable of level 50s. But supposedly the odd of purple drop is less than 1% but some people see them on the regular which on paper would be very low probabilty but in reality, it happens.
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Might do that and see what happens. Is the crit chance ato thing another random based thing or does it increases the chance of a crit by a set amount?
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yea. This one got four crits on CoTs office map, matching my record again.
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Quote:wow. but dont have a fire scrap so cant compare on that part there. all I need for me is three fingers four just in case I'm lucky that night. The rest of the fingers are bored. I'd probably go with the invul. It's more resistance based. I rolled a invul scrap one time long ago but think I deleted it after a while to make space. Dont remember it being super good nor super bad by level 25. Might give it a try again.I will toss a fireball at a x8 spawn and crit 4 of the mobs. I seriously can't be bothered to count how many times I crit in a mish. I would need at least ten more fingers and toes.
My advice, roll a scrapper that has a taunt aura and you get the best of both worlds. Just so happens that 2 scrapper sets with taunt aura's(invuln and shield) can be built to be bordering on the ridiculously survivable side. Bonus points for shield being better on scrappers as well(does more damage than on a brute).
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first of all how do you record the log and second of all how do you post files to this forum?
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Quote:We don't need a whole new zone purely dedicated to that. Besides, it takes far less time to design a few custom maps than it does an entire, functional zone. Especially with how over saturated we are with zones as is.
Honestly, I was hoping with Ouroboros being created we'd see more historical moments in world history like we did with the initial three TFs. Brass Monday, the first Rikti War, the Nazi invasion on Independence Port, Arachnos vs. Captain Mako and his pirate crew of the Black Powder, etc. But now Ouro's just a plot device :\
Well even better then. Why cant they make it in Ouro then. sounds simple enough. -
not this again. Well this is not perception. it's count. and what happens. And to make sure. I played scrap yesterday. Only one crit in entire mish, on a minion. Might play again today and see what happens and take note.
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Yeah I said half because that is what I average solo especially moving from mob to mob. Lot of times the next mob is not very close and I dont use travel power between groups to rush (from playing patience with tank damage.)
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usually I enjoy brutes more. Scraps are ok but I only see a crit about as often as I see purps. Think I only crit against a boss was twice. Everytime I play a scrap I get the feeling of hell, if I aint crit to off these dudes quickly every so often, I might as well bump up my hp and armor and get a brute, at leastI know the damge scale doesnt depend on chance. and brute SS is good too. one of the sets I mostly for a brute because the damage that comes with Rage and the fury bar.
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good info you two.
who would deal more damage on average say comapared to a brute that is about half fury bar compared to a scrap that crits once or twice a mish.
(That is about how much I crit on my scraps on average, some not at all in a mish and some up to three times, and brutes I average about half fury bar over all. But never cmpared the damage numbers.) -
Quote:Me too, if they feel like making it avail to paragon market. I aint joining that Facebook thing not with all them security/privacy leaks. Then of course as the saying goes, dont put anything on there you want to get out, hell then that is anythign dealing with my personal life thus it wont exist there.I would love to purchase the facepalm emote on the Paragon Market.
since I am not ever ever ever going to join the FBorg
When they make it avail on the paragon market, I'll gladly buy it. If not, then I'll gladly go without as I've been doing. Guess they figured everyone here has FB and twitter. They didnt even bother posting the problems about victory server stability on this forum, only on twitter and facebook. -
On a force field MM what situations do people use Repulsion Field and or Force Bubble for in solo play and team play?
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In general, what is the difference between a scrapper and a brute and how does these differences define the different roles they play on a team? Outside of damage of course.
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Quote:maybe for you. You seem to like them very much. That is good. you see purpose in them.There's an EB ally (5 Charges) in the repeatables. For anyone who has ever complained "X is too hard", well, there you go, throw out an EB and get it done. (Or two if you get a Shivan, too.)
So.... claims of the repeatables being poor is pretty poor.
Me on the other hand I dont see so much usefulness and out of all the rewards for tokens I think it's bunk. That's my opinion just as it's your opinion that they are good. Neither one of those opinions make it a fact for their particular side.
Hell, I bet if I came across a group of starving homeless man and gave them a maggot ridden rib bone with three slivers of rotten meat hanging on it, one of them will swear it's the greatest thing in the world and will say everyone else is being too picky to be starving. While some will say that it's not worth the trouble even if they was starving as eating it may cause more problems. Then there will be some that are indifferent to either side. -
Hmm I think colored titles are close but the repeatable token things still beat it. I kind of like being able to change the color of my title to match things.
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yeah with my other electric armors, with the brute, usually I do lightning rod, end drain, and pick off any survivors. Tank, /staff, I just run in kill the weakest ones, while letting the LTs and Bosses use some of their end, then hit power sink, watch them stand their helpless and beat them into a pulp with a stick.
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all of mine was acc/dam and Acc/Dmg/End
and one Acc/Dmg/End/Rech never seen the rest of them.
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Quote:sounds like a lot od IOs. I dont bother with IOs anymore. Only SOs. But still, from what you described, a dark/storm is a viable option.Currently I'm working on my dark/storm/leviathan controller, and enjoying it quite a bit. With high recharge you can get permanent haunts, umbra beast, multiple tornadoes, multiple lightning storms, permanent coralax, and almost permanent water spout. (6 seconds shy on water spout) It's like being a mastermind of pure chaos.
....Of course it's also darned good at debuffs/control. Heart of darkness and thunder clap overlap nicely. Between the two you can't just permanently stun things, you have permanent double stack AoE stuns for bosses. Shadow field is 10 seconds shy of permanent, so you have a hold/debuff patch around with all the freezing rain, snow storms, and hurricanes. Not to mention it's a visual hoot. -
Quote:Actually makes a lot of sense, evn though I'm not sure mentioning Nazi is a shock factor or more so no one really wants to deal with it. Like a satanist and a devout christian at a PTA meeting when the question of "What is the best religion" question comes up. As with many Nazi based or inspiried enemy groups in this game, word Hitler here should of lost shock value long time ago from shotgun blast to maybe a spitball gun (5th, Reichman, etc.) Yet I use Tyrant and Hitler not for the murder dead, etc holocaust thing. More like the way the State was. It is pretty well known that that Germany under Hitler basically was fairly prosperous under his rule, and studies shown that the relative citizens felt safe. Hell, even Time made him Man of the Year in the 30s. Yet, while the facade of a single man saving a nation, not too much unlike Tyrant, wide range support in policies to the point of blind loyalty, hides a much darker sinister way to it that wasnt spotted until he was dug in deeper than an Alabama tick. Just like tyrant and his rule and the point where Primal Earth comes into play.I tend to find that invoking the Nazi in socio-political debates (including such about a fictional world) generally misses the point. We all know that the Nazi are evil, yes, but we tend to turn over two pages at once and not really consider WHY they're evil. It's easy enough to infer that they're evil, therefore everything they're involved must be evil, too, but that's not entirely true, or at least not entirely accurate. When you bring up the evils of WW2, most of what that implies is the Holocaust and the other horrors of war, which honestly have no place in this game as far as I'm concerned. They're evil, yes, but the kind of evil I'd rather not have to deal with.
But when you're trying to discuss Tyrant, comparing him to Hitler and his state to the Nazi is missing the point and actually simplifying a rather much more complex point. If a comparison must be drawn, then I'd rather draw one between Praetoria and a fascist state. Right out of Wikipedia:
We can argue about the morality of fascism, and there is some leeway to argue, as certain Civilization games have used that as a legitimate national policy, but I feel the larger point here is how well this matches the world of Praetoria. You can, for instance, quote the Rogue Isles as a nation of evil, and it kind of is, but it represents a very different kind of social structure, one based more around feudalism if anything, and is not at all similar to Praetoria. Bot consider how good of an example Praetoria is of a textbook fascist state not too dissimilar from that of, say, Starship Troopers. While you CAN make a parallel between Praetoria and the Nazi, it's really not the connection most people infer when the Nazi are brought up. What people infer is a connection of violence and murder, whereas what's similar here is the connection of social structure, instead. We cannot forget that Nazi Germany was, at the end of the day, a fascist state not too dissimilar from fascist Italy.
That's the connection and I believe the intent of the comparison, but it's also a connection that gets lost in the shuffle when you drop the bombshell that is the Nazi. Goodwin's Law, to my eyes, is more to point out that bringing up Hitler and the Nazi in a normally unrelated discussion is akin to firing a shotgun to a projector board to point to a PowerPoint presentation item. Yes, you've accurately pointed to the item, but your audience is a bit too shocked at you firing a shotgun at a meeting to see what you pointed at. It's also largely pointless in that it's a roundabout way to say something that, ultimately, doesn't need bringing up the Nazi to actually say. In fact, the Nazi have no real relevance except to add shock value which, ironically enough, ends up hurting more than it helps as it detracts from the actual point.
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All of the idle philosophical ramblings aside, I actually have to applaud Praetoria's 1-20 game for pulling off a pretty faithful, pretty creative depiction of a functional fascist state, and for making it about as sympathetic and morally ambiguous as you can make a totalitarian military dictatorship. It's a pity 20+ Praetoria pretty much discards this and descends into a sort of goatee evil parallel universe full of scenery-chewing ********. -
dont know but that would make them useful. Given that a swat and they are dead kind of less make them very much less useful in combat. Maybe this was the intent? a non combat buff?
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Quote:wonder how Godwin came up with that rule.The point is that constantly invoking Hitler is inappropriate. Usually the comparison is never appropriate or even close. The point Godwin made with his axiom is that constantly making Hitler/Holocaust comparisons diminishes the impact.
And the point is that GG tried to "fix" my sentence by replacing Tyrant with Hitler as though the comparison between the two was appropriate contextually. The idea is that, at the point you feel you need to make comparisons to Hitler is about when your argument starts losing credibility.
Because usually the comparison isn't accurate.
And in this context, it's not.
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They did it with Cim. Not sure why they cant do it say with a TF, a few arcs, an entrance arc, and repeatable mish contacts for 1930 time period like they did with Cim.
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main reason I chose Energy melee was for the single target damage. And I chose tank because of the sturdiness baseline with SOs. The Brute version aint bad and I have one of those except in electic melee form.
Thanks for the info, Rangle.