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What are some sets that match up good with Darkness Control?


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What are some sets that match up good with Darkness Control?
All of them Fit pretty well actually but a few of them shine more than the others.

Darkness Affinity
Poison
Radiation Emission
ForceField
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alright then.
I would go more into detail but I have to head in it's 4 am here!

What are you looking for mostly? Survival, Damage, Support?



 

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solo survival with a little damage. Everything else is secondary.


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solo survival with a little damage. Everything else is secondary.
Hrmm, well as far as damage from the Secondary goes Poison and Storm are top picks...TA could work as well once you get perma hasten type recharge and Kinetics could work as well...the extra recharge could boost your chance of survival by making key powers up more often.

It all depends on your play style really. What Secondaries are you familiar with and you enjoy?

Personally, I would go Kin as a safe route but if you can handle some madness /Storm and Poison would be great as well! ^___^

EDIT: Just in case I probably should tell you why I think those secondaries compliment Dark Control so well

/Storm- The -ToHit plus the defense from mist adds survival extra "defense" throw in the -To Hit from Hurricane and you have a winner. Plus the Immob is for letting Tornado do its thing. If you have the proc in it the immob will at least keep LS from Kb'ing foes.

Stacking HoD and Thunderclap is fun...or switching between to the two haha even more mitigation.

/Poison-Poison Dishes out Decent -To Hit. From Weaken and Venomous Gas which plays nicely with Dark Control's gobs of -To Hit. Poison also deals high levels of -RES with the right procs.

Poison Trap is amazing with procs...I still smile and shake my head when ever I use it.

/TA-Flash arrow meshes with Dark and the Poison Gas Arrow will offer some mitigation when HoD isn't up. Shadow Field allows you to do some TA Shenanigans w/o faceplanting.

/Kin- Well we all know what Kin is capable of heh.



 

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Hrmm, well as far as damage from the Secondary goes Poison and Storm are top picks...TA could work as well once you get perma hasten type recharge and Kinetics could work as well...the extra recharge could boost your chance of survival by making key powers up more often.

It all depends on your play style really. What Secondaries are you familiar with and you enjoy?

Personally, I would go Kin as a safe route but if you can handle some madness /Storm and Poison would be great as well! ^___^

EDIT: Just in case I probably should tell you why I think those secondaries compliment Dark Control so well

/Storm- The -ToHit plus the defense from mist adds survival extra "defense" throw in the -To Hit from Hurricane and you have a winner. Plus the Immob is for letting Tornado do its thing. If you have the proc in it the immob will at least keep LS from Kb'ing foes.

Stacking HoD and Thunderclap is fun...or switching between to the two haha even more mitigation.

/Poison-Poison Dishes out Decent -To Hit. From Weaken and Venomous Gas which plays nicely with Dark Control's gobs of -To Hit. Poison also deals high levels of -RES with the right procs.

Poison Trap is amazing with procs...I still smile and shake my head when ever I use it.

/TA-Flash arrow meshes with Dark and the Poison Gas Arrow will offer some mitigation when HoD isn't up. Shadow Field allows you to do some TA Shenanigans w/o faceplanting.

/Kin- Well we all know what Kin is capable of heh.

On other sets I have played and enjoyed, Poision, storm, never could get into kin on other sets except this one kin/archery defender was the only time I actually liked Kin as solo as far as fun factor.


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Currently I'm working on my dark/storm/leviathan controller, and enjoying it quite a bit. With high recharge you can get permanent haunts, umbra beast, multiple tornadoes, multiple lightning storms, permanent coralax, and almost permanent water spout. (6 seconds shy on water spout) It's like being a mastermind of pure chaos.

....Of course it's also darned good at debuffs/control. Heart of darkness and thunder clap overlap nicely. Between the two you can't just permanently stun things, you have permanent double stack AoE stuns for bosses. Shadow field is 10 seconds shy of permanent, so you have a hold/debuff patch around with all the freezing rain, snow storms, and hurricanes. Not to mention it's a visual hoot.


 

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Currently I'm working on my dark/storm/leviathan controller, and enjoying it quite a bit. With high recharge you can get permanent haunts, umbra beast, multiple tornadoes, multiple lightning storms, permanent coralax, and almost permanent water spout. (6 seconds shy on water spout) It's like being a mastermind of pure chaos.

....Of course it's also darned good at debuffs/control. Heart of darkness and thunder clap overlap nicely. Between the two you can't just permanently stun things, you have permanent double stack AoE stuns for bosses. Shadow field is 10 seconds shy of permanent, so you have a hold/debuff patch around with all the freezing rain, snow storms, and hurricanes. Not to mention it's a visual hoot.
sounds like a lot od IOs. I dont bother with IOs anymore. Only SOs. But still, from what you described, a dark/storm is a viable option.


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My vote's for Dark/Dark; damage is great (with procs), survivability is very high, and you get MOAR PETS!


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I made a Dark/Rad Controller because I wanted to see how those sets handled, as I'd never used either one. I started the character in Praetoria because A- I wanted to refresh my memory of the Crusader missions and B- It's a good way to stresstest a build. She was level 14 before her first defeat and hit twenty so fast that I'm now pausing to make up a full backstory for her because something this good, I think I should keep. So far it seems a solid survivability choice.


 

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On other sets I have played and enjoyed, Poision, storm, never could get into kin on other sets except this one kin/archery defender was the only time I actually liked Kin as solo as far as fun factor.
Kin is tough to love because it's blooms very late...kinda like TA.

Kin on a defender is easier to deal with because Transference and Fulcrum come early.

I used to hate my kin toon but once I hit 38....the rest was history. I still rarely play the set though. It's very busy and it can tire you out real quick if you play it to much.



 

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Kin is tough to love because it's blooms very late...kinda like TA.

Kin on a defender is easier to deal with because Transference and Fulcrum come early.

I used to hate my kin toon but once I hit 38....the rest was history. I still rarely play the set though. It's very busy and it can tire you out real quick if you play it to much.
yea my other kin corruptor I deleted at 39. I see it would of been great on teams but solo, not so much for me. it was sonic/kin. so after it's demise I rolled a sonic/rad instead. I like it in sonic/rad combo but put it on ice for now.

My defender was solo, kin/archery, and I loved it. The irony, given the "lack of synergy" some claim, but eh I dont pay attention to synergy so it was irrelevant. But I skipped transference and speed boost and havent gotten to Fulcrim shift yet.


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My vote's for Dark/Dark; damage is great (with procs), survivability is very high, and you get MOAR PETS!
how is that damage without the procs? Yea I played that set before on a corruptor. The name threw me off. Looks just like dark miasma. It's a good support secondary and that fluff thing is handy.
Except dark miasma didnt have the team buff things.


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The procs are mostly for the AoE immob...then it will really shred mobs...

The other powers in dark are generally good as it gets 3 pets if you go Dark/Dark...and the pets are pretty potent.

Plus some good team buffs and good debuffs for hard targets.


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hm might have to build a dark/dark and or a dark/poison. Got a good concept for a dark/poison in mind.


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hm might have to build a dark/dark and or a dark/poison. Got a good concept for a dark/poison in mind.
You better proc the crap out poison trap mister!/misses!



 

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You better proc the crap out poison trap mister!/misses!
nah i dont do IOs. SOs is fine enough for me.
Why? Personal choice that I have made and decided not to use.


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nah i dont do IOs. SOs is fine enough for me.
Why? Personal choice that I have made and decided not to use.
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My vote's for Dark/Dark; damage is great (with procs), survivability is very high, and you get MOAR PETS!
Added advantage = end recovery.


 

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If you want a superb combination in terms of control and team support, do not roll anything dark/ controllter UNTIL Nature Affinity goes live. I am telling you, and would bet all my paychecks... Dark/Nature Affinity will make you a SUPER debuffing/buffing/healing/Regen/Controls machine ALL IN ONE packg. Wait, young Jedi, just wait, the force WILL BE WITH YOU.

Go to beta, try it out.


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If you want a superb combination in terms of control and team support, do not roll anything dark/ controllter UNTIL Nature Affinity goes live. I am telling you, and would bet all my paychecks... Dark/Nature Affinity will make you a SUPER debuffing/buffing/healing/Regen/Controls machine ALL IN ONE packg. Wait, young Jedi, just wait, the force WILL BE WITH YOU.

Go to beta, try it out.
more like I'm aiming for control and solo survival. Only team maybe ten-15% of the time for an occasional TF/SF/Trial.


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more like I'm aiming for control and solo survival. Only team maybe ten-15% of the time for an occasional TF/SF/Trial.
You will enjoy it and love it even more.

Nature affinity has some great -dmg debuffs, -to hit debuffs (even better mixed with Dark Control) -resitance debuffs, a very powerful dmg and to hit buff (like a squishy version of Rage but no Rage crash), great heals and regen which, unlike Empathy, buff and heal you when solo, gives you solid resistance and great regen, a dull pain or absorb power, a healing/recovery patch u can stand on...

Now add that to Dark/ Control, which is a very very solid set that has all the tricks and tools to control except a sleep, but with a very very nasty fear, 3 pets which do gooood dmg together, a patch or placement area hold, a freaking wide wide area stun which recharges fast enough, and lots of -to hit debuffs.

You will PWN.

Roll it, try it, no matter what, solo or teaming, you will naturally feel some dark fun... (no pun intended).

Look, Dark/nature affinity


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You will enjoy it and love it even more.

Nature affinity has some great -dmg debuffs, -to hit debuffs (even better mixed with Dark Control) -resitance debuffs, a very powerful dmg and to hit buff (like a squishy version of Rage but no Rage crash), great heals and regen which, unlike Empathy, buff and heal you when solo, gives you solid resistance and great regen, a dull pain or absorb power, a healing/recovery patch u can stand on...

Now add that to Dark/ Control, which is a very very solid set that has all the tricks and tools to control except a sleep, but with a very very nasty fear, 3 pets which do gooood dmg together, a patch or placement area hold, a freaking wide wide area stun which recharges fast enough, and lots of -to hit debuffs.

You will PWN.

Roll it, try it, no matter what, solo or teaming, you will naturally feel some dark fun... (no pun intended).

Look, Dark/nature affinity
So when is nature affinity hitting live? I plan on having this toon rolling by the 12th Aug.


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So when is nature affinity hitting live? I plan on having this toon rolling by the 12th Aug.
The more players play it, give feedback, and the Devs work on it by the feedback, data mining, etc, the faster it is done. Of course, they may have a date they want to get it out by to us, but I don't know it.

What I suggest is play it now on beta. Make it, play it, get a feel, give feedback if u want, and help out.

You can team in beta too.


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