How do you get onto Beta server anyways now?
-Female Player-
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Originally Posted by mauk2
Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard.  Never change, E_L! |
if you're a sub, go the NCSoft launcher
there's a list of additional games you can download offa the launcher.
One is called "City of Heroes BETA"
download that, and now you have a beta client
I've been debating Dark/Ice Vs. Dark/Dark. I haven't played any of these sets involved extensively, though I've started /Ice once or twice and fizzled out in the teens... That one seems to be another late bloomer.
Thanks for eight fun years, Paragon.
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Yeah, it's a late blooming set. In my opinion /Cold's first amazing power is Benumb which you get at level 28 and from then on it gets down right amazing.|
Originally Posted by ChrisMoses
I've been debating Dark/Ice Vs. Dark/Dark. I haven't played any of these sets involved extensively, though I've started /Ice once or twice and fizzled out in the teens... That one seems to be another late bloomer.
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I maybe can help with your decision ChrisMoses. What do you want out of your toon?
I don't know. Fun? I have so many characters, I don't know of any hole in my heart I'm needing to fill.
Thanks for eight fun years, Paragon.
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I think he is asking about your expected playstyle with this character. |
Originally Posted by ChrisMoses
I don't know. Fun? I have so many characters, I don't know of any hole in my heart I'm needing to fill.
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Teams or solo? Most of my controllers are team-oriented but able to solo slowly if I don't have a team. However, if I expect the controller to solo most of the time, I will make a different build.
Melee or ranged? Again, the build will be different if you have a tendecy to run into melee vs. generally stay at the edges. Some people like to play Controllers like a scrapper, while others like to stay back and be more of a field general.
Moderate price or mega-expensive? You can have a very effective character at a moderate price.
LOCAL MAN! The most famous hero of all. There are more newspaper stories about me than anyone else. "Local Man wins Medal of Honor." "Local Man opens Animal Shelter." "Local Man Charged with..." (Um, forget about that one.)
Guide Links: Earth/Rad Guide, Illusion/Rad Guide, Electric Control
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Got it but it didnt download proper. I'll try to find a fix for it later when I get around to it.
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Originally Posted by BrokenFace
if you're a sub, go the NCSoft launcher
there's a list of additional games you can download offa the launcher. One is called "City of Heroes BETA" download that, and now you have a beta client |
-Female Player-
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Originally Posted by mauk2
Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L! |
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Exactly. Thanks Local ^__^.
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Originally Posted by Local_Man
I think he is asking about your expected playstyle with this character.
Teams or solo? Most of my controllers are team-oriented but able to solo slowly if I don't have a team. However, if I expect the controller to solo most of the time, I will make a different build. Melee or ranged? Again, the build will be different if you have a tendecy to run into melee vs. generally stay at the edges. Some people like to play Controllers like a scrapper, while others like to stay back and be more of a field general. Moderate price or mega-expensive? You can have a very effective character at a moderate price. |
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Oh. I should have gotten that.|
Originally Posted by Local_Man
I think he is asking about your expected playstyle with this character.
Teams or solo? Most of my controllers are team-oriented but able to solo slowly if I don't have a team. However, if I expect the controller to solo most of the time, I will make a different build. Melee or ranged? Again, the build will be different if you have a tendecy to run into melee vs. generally stay at the edges. Some people like to play Controllers like a scrapper, while others like to stay back and be more of a field general. Moderate price or mega-expensive? You can have a very effective character at a moderate price. |
OK, the controllers I have that I love are Fire/Rad, Ice/Kin, Illu/Rad, and Fire/Storm.
The controllers that I have and like are Elec/Time.
The controllers that I have and merely tolerate are Earth/Sonic and Plant/Thermal (I'm not a healing fan; I should have known better).
I haven't been able to get into Gravity (though the only shot I've given it is a level 24 Dominator), nor Mind (though I think I've only played it to level 10, if that - I just like the promise of pets at 32, I think).
So, put in that perspective, I like being in the muck with the melee, PBAoE toggles, and slight damage potential. Elec/Time may be my safest controller, but the lack of damage (currently level 33, so that will change, at least a little, with an APP) irks me.
I make Controllers with the predominant intention of teaming, but I want to be able to run a mission or two solo if I have to.
The most I put into a build is set IOs, then occasional purples as they drop. Though both the Plant/Thermal and the Earth/Sonic only got Generic IOs + cheap Slow or Immob procs. So if I like the Controller a lot (as is the intention before even beginning it!) then I'll dump like 80 mill into it and call it a day until drops convince me otherwise.
The secondaries that don't interest me are Trick Arrow (I don't want redraw, nor ever came up with any sort of good archer concept), Thermal, Empathy, Sonic, or Force Field. I wouldn't mind playing Kin or Storm again. I should probably stay away from /Rad (two 50's already) and /Time (currently leveling), but I could be convinced. The most attractive, however, would be a set I've never put extensive time into, such as /Cold, /Dark, or /Poison.
So. Given those parameters, what are my Dark Control pairing options? In fact, now that I've talked about it so much, does anyone want to make a strong push to also start a Mind or Gravity Controller? Dark is the priority, but now I'm curious!
Thanks for eight fun years, Paragon.
I'm tellin' ya: Dark/Dark.
I just ran another ITF with Ravendusk, and the output and performance is leaving my Fire/Storm in the dust.
End recovery; defense, resistance, good controls, in *and* out of melee, super-strong heal, lots of pets...it's amazing.
Carl and Sons @Aurora Girl (Pinnacle)
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But I do understand that there is an internet rule that any bad idea must be presented by someone at least twice a year to remind everyone who hasn't already read every previous thread on the topic precisely why the idea is bad.
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Running the Summer Event with all my toons (15+), I had the most fun with my Dark/Dark troller. She didn't turn in the fastest run times, yet I had fun with every PUG group I was with. Which I hate to add, wasn't always the case with some of my other toons.
I give myself the giggles everytime I used Possess to turn Killer into my *****.
/Empaths can turn three people into Jesus, one person into God, and everyone else into the twelve apostles.~Angry_Citizen
Don't you know that discussion of power selection/slotting can ONLY be based on hearsay, rumor, idle speculation, and bald-faced lies??!? ~Elf_Sniper
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Dark/Dark should be a good choice. The cone nature of Living Shadows combined with PB AoE of Heart of Darkness makes me play my Dark/Dark into a kind of Short-Range controller, right at the edge of melee, sometimes running in. Much like a Fire controller, you get a nice ranged control power (Fearsome Stare) to hit before running in close. The combination of ToHit Debuff stacked from both sets, the Defense you get later on and the self-heal lets you survive quite well.|
Originally Posted by ChrisMoses
Oh. I should have gotten that.
OK, the controllers I have that I love are Fire/Rad, Ice/Kin, Illu/Rad, and Fire/Storm. The controllers that I have and like are Elec/Time. The controllers that I have and merely tolerate are Earth/Sonic and Plant/Thermal (I'm not a healing fan; I should have known better). I haven't been able to get into Gravity (though the only shot I've given it is a level 24 Dominator), nor Mind (though I think I've only played it to level 10, if that - I just like the promise of pets at 32, I think). So, put in that perspective, I like being in the muck with the melee, PBAoE toggles, and slight damage potential. Elec/Time may be my safest controller, but the lack of damage (currently level 33, so that will change, at least a little, with an APP) irks me. I make Controllers with the predominant intention of teaming, but I want to be able to run a mission or two solo if I have to. The most I put into a build is set IOs, then occasional purples as they drop. Though both the Plant/Thermal and the Earth/Sonic only got Generic IOs + cheap Slow or Immob procs. So if I like the Controller a lot (as is the intention before even beginning it!) then I'll dump like 80 mill into it and call it a day until drops convince me otherwise. The secondaries that don't interest me are Trick Arrow (I don't want redraw, nor ever came up with any sort of good archer concept), Thermal, Empathy, Sonic, or Force Field. I wouldn't mind playing Kin or Storm again. I should probably stay away from /Rad (two 50's already) and /Time (currently leveling), but I could be convinced. The most attractive, however, would be a set I've never put extensive time into, such as /Cold, /Dark, or /Poison. So. Given those parameters, what are my Dark Control pairing options? In fact, now that I've talked about it so much, does anyone want to make a strong push to also start a Mind or Gravity Controller? Dark is the priority, but now I'm curious! |
As for Gravity -- I tried a few Gravity controllers until I finally teamed it with Storm, and that was a synergy I really liked. Crushing Field+Freezing Rain's knockdown gave me the AoE control that let me get through those lower levels when you have very little AoE control. You can't really appreciate Gravity until you get Singy -- I think Singy makes more of a difference to the Grav set than any other pet other than Illusion's PA. I don't think Gravity is a very good dominator set since so many powers are geared to single target damage, which you don't need as a dominator.
Mind, in my opinion, is better as a dominator primary than a controller primary. It has so many powers that benefit from Domination that it sometimes seems overpowered. My first Dominator to hit 50 was a Mind/Energy. (I also have a Mind/Storm at 50 and a Mind/FF at 44.)
LOCAL MAN! The most famous hero of all. There are more newspaper stories about me than anyone else. "Local Man wins Medal of Honor." "Local Man opens Animal Shelter." "Local Man Charged with..." (Um, forget about that one.)
Guide Links: Earth/Rad Guide, Illusion/Rad Guide, Electric Control
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Grav/Storm looks like it would be a lot of fun. I'm imagining Dimension Shifting one group, wormholing another on top of it, jump in, Thunder Clap/FR/GD/Tornado(with kdown proc)/LS/Singy/Ice storm(or fissure), jump out, laugh while waiting for "arrests" galore.|
Originally Posted by Local_Man
As for Gravity -- I tried a few Gravity controllers until I finally teamed it with Storm, and that was a synergy I really liked. Crushing Field+Freezing Rain's knockdown gave me the AoE control that let me get through those lower levels when you have very little AoE control. You can't really appreciate Gravity until you get Singy -- I think Singy makes more of a difference to the Grav set than any other pet other than Illusion's PA. I don't think Gravity is a very good dominator set since so many powers are geared to single target damage, which you don't need as a dominator.
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EDIT: forgot about hurricane in that scenario for added protection. Jump into the DS zone and toggle off real fast for 10 sec debuff.
Go with Dark/Dark Chris it's a solid combo for sure. Cold meshes well with Dark Control but I like paired up with Illusion more.
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So, I went to beta and tried it out. So far it's awesome. I'm still a lowbie and don't have many NA powers yet, but It's gonna be very nice. |
Originally Posted by Commando
If you want a superb combination in terms of control and team support, do not roll anything dark/ controllter UNTIL Nature Affinity goes live. I am telling you, and would bet all my paychecks...
Dark/Nature Affinity will make you a SUPER debuffing/buffing/healing/Regen/Controls machine ALL IN ONE packg. Wait, young Jedi, just wait, the force WILL BE WITH YOU. Go to beta, try it out. |
Just not sure what epic to go with, Lev or Ice or Stone. All have their points to add.
still having issues getting beta to work. oh well. may have to wait till it comes out anyways, plus hate working a character and cant transfer it to live server especially a set that i start to like.
-Female Player-
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Originally Posted by mauk2
Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L! |
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Be more specific. What is going on? You should use the game launcher, the NCSoft launcher to download beta. You must be ViP to log to beta.
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Originally Posted by Evil_Legacy
still having issues getting beta to work. oh well. may have to wait till it comes out anyways, plus hate working a character and cant transfer it to live server especially a set that i start to like.
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Repeat Offenders forever !
Make all IO's available in Paragon Market! NCSoft, the chinese are making BIG money selling influence and other stuff in the game. Best way to stop them = make the paragon market a place to buy all IO's and perhaps other things as well.
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yea I used the game launcher and I'm VIP. It didnt work so well. I'll figure it out on my own, if I do figure it out. Dont need anymore posts saying "it's impossible" because they never had problems and etc so I'm not going into details. There have not been one case of "going into details" that actually ended up well. Dont have patience nor energy to go through that crap again. It's no big deal if I cant get it working, it'll go live eventually anyways.
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Originally Posted by Commando
Be more specific. What is going on? You should use the game launcher, the NCSoft launcher to download beta. You must be ViP to log to beta.
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-Female Player-
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Originally Posted by mauk2
Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L! |
Fear Noir was born tonight, thanks guys.
So was Feardom (on the Freedom server)... I think I like the first more, but they'll keep. I also debating going with "Itself" (nothing to fear...), but I decided against it.
Thanks for eight fun years, Paragon.
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Too bad. I like Itself. |
Originally Posted by ChrisMoses
Fear Noir was born tonight, thanks guys.
So was Feardom (on the Freedom server)... I think I like the first more, but they'll keep. I also debating going with "Itself" (nothing to fear...), but I decided against it. |
It's available on Freedom if you're tempted.
Thanks for eight fun years, Paragon.
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Originally Posted by ChrisMoses
Fear Noir was born tonight, thanks guys.
So was Feardom (on the Freedom server)... I think I like the first more, but they'll keep. I also debating going with "Itself" (nothing to fear...), but I decided against it. |
/Dark Affinity is awesome and I'm very familiar with Dark miasma but Fade and Soul Absorption...omg SA is sooo awesome.
In fact I like SA more than Speed Boost!
Fear Noir is parked at 42 after double XP weekend. Love the set; it's definitely my next Incarnate. Now I just need all of these IO bids to get through so I can start playing him again!
Thanks for eight fun years, Paragon.
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I may try a Dark/NAff when it rolls out, but after loving the trip up on my Dark/Dark and Dark/Storm I'm taking a break from Dark/ with a Fire/Dark. Got him from 1 to 28 solo with some fairly moderate play (few hours a day) over the 2Xp weekend. Once I get him to 39/40 so I can see how it plays with psycho-monkeys and Fluffy I'll be able to change over to a Dark/NAff... Maybe. 
Dunno though, Fire/Dark is a pretty DANG good combo! I do have to say they did a decent job with the KB->KD tweak, it's enough less effective that it's not ALL you need, more like a very VERY useful advantage and not a game breaker. Still makes Ice Slick look WEAK though, Ice/ really REALLY needs that review/tweaking they have promised.
Arg
What I suggest is play it now on beta. Make it, play it, get a feel, give feedback if u want, and help out.
You can team in beta too.
-Female Player-
"Kick Rocks."
I laffed so hard.