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Originally Posted by Nihilii
Last but not least, he also failed to account a specific kind of power no stalkers have access to : damage auras. Anyone using Hero Stats and a damage aura can tell you it'll usually account from anywhere between 10 and 20% of total damage output.
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Damage auras are nice, but Stalkers give that up for Hide to get more burst. Anyway, damage auras, even though they are great overall damage, may not save you hits and cause you to make even more overkill if the amount of actual hits on the enemies doesn't change. Does the group need 4 Footstomps to lay down or 3 Footstomps if I have the damage aura on? If the number of required hits doesn't change, the damage aura isn't really doing anything, albeit showing doing high damage on programs such as HeroStats. AoEs that "recharge fast" (You're plinking anywhere from 10 to 40 damage in or more each 2 seconds in AoE)
That being said, I do like my Lightning Field because of the enddrain and Elec Melee doesn't really do much overkill in general so the damage does come into good use.
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Tough. This is a discussion about the highest potential DPS, and the brutes with the highest potential DPS are brutes with damage auras, just like the stalkers with the highest potential DPS are stalkers on full teams where all teammates sit in a 30" range.
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If we're going into "the highest potential route", Stalkers can have 100% crits if there are enough masterminds in the team, and I certainly haven't seen a lack of masterminds in the Rogue Isles.
You probably don't even need them all to be in range if you have your other tools to gain extra crits that were not taken into account in Siolfir's math. Hidden first strike and placate can grant you free crits at your will.
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"A powerset issue is completely different from a teammate issue !"
Different in what way, one of them advantages the stalker and not the brute so it's OK to include it, but the other isn't so it's best to forget it ?
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Ok, so powers like AM, World of Pain, Emp auras and the FF & Sonic big buggles are teh suk because you have to be in range to get benefit from them?
If there is no "I" in team, having people around you should not be a problem, especially in a highly competitive team. TEAMmates will stay near Stalkers so they can flip out and kill things.
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If you go further than simple base mods for ATs, you're not going to get to the highest possible DPS with Dual Blades (for example). It is implied the best powerset available for the task is used.
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Different powersets are different. Nice one, Sherlock.
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Now if you add AoEs into the mix, this doesn't look well for stalkers, but that's not the topic - at least I hope it's not, or Siolfir is even more out of touch with meleers than I thought. I assumed the whole thing was about ST DPS and rolled with it, as this is the situation where stalkers are competitive.
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Not only Stalkers can fear 1/4th of a spawn, reduce their ToHit by 7.5% (unresistable), including bosses, while doing serious burst damage to one target (equivalent of a Brute using ET at full fury, except higher, at base) and that can only become better as Stalkers benefit 33% more from damage buffs than Brutes thanks to the mods. I'd say Stalkers are competitive in their own area.
The Stalker can also pick a Patron AoE from either Mu Mastery or Mace Mastery, filling the lack-of-AoE hole. Going by the Disruption Blast, from hide, it's either 111.22 or 55.61 damage base, depending on if it crits or not, averaging 83.415 damage base in a 15' radius. Not all Stalkers get innate AoEs, so that's a pretty sweet deal. It isn't the ideal AoE DPS that other ATs have, but gives nice burst that will help getting the minor enemies down in record time.
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I've pretty much said anything I could on the topic and am not interested in discussing it further (especially as half of the "points" are either factually wrong or random insults from emotion) so you'll excuse me if I "ignore everything you just say" past this point. On the bright side you can pretend I left because I couldn't find anything to reply and highfive each other, make up a story about me being a stalker hater or something so you don't have to refute my points. Everybody wins.
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Ok.
