Electric-Knight
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I always knew a part of my doctor's bill was including the cost of the lollipops!!
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Quote:Honestly, I think the only thing any of this means is that those numbers are pretty meaningless... as most everyone has said since they first showed up in Freedom beta.Originally Posted by Miladys_Knight
Actually I don't think it means what you think it means.
Master minds are listed in support with a secondary set that is rated at a "5" for support.
Defenders are listed as Ranged Damage with a secondary set that is rated at "6" for ranged damage.
Dominators and Controllers are listed in the Pets category with a Primary pet power that gives them a rating of "5" for pets.
Blaster Melee damage rating is an 8! yet the devs don't list them as a melee damage category AT. That's pretty revealing of the dev thought process where blasters are concerned.
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Quote:You and a few people are making large assumptions as to the Tier-9 VIP being better for business...Originally Posted by Nethergoat
We have a lot of folk around here who don't worry about this kind of thing and could care less about exclusivity, which is nice from a community standpoint.
But from a business standpoint, when you promote a reward system centered largely around that exclusivity you undermine it at your own peril.
Hopefully they get the price point right and can generate more income from the non-9s without agitating the 9's too much.
As opposed to how much money they'd make for selling those costume sets.
I'm not convinced that more money comes from having these VIP rewards. Honestly (and hats off to Paragon Studios), with just a few calculations it seems more likely that the company would make more money by selling them directly in the store (to any and all buyers).
The real answers lie within the question: How many VIPs would shell out the excessive amount of dough to fly up the Tiers compared to how many sales of packs they have for popular costume packs? We'd have to factor in the useage of stipend points as well.
I seriously don't think a large contingent of people only subscribe for the costumes at Tier 9. And I don't think there'd be any mass exodus if the exclusivity of those costumes were "diminished".
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Huh, is that right? Freebies can't make the costume recipes? I've not tested that (I've not tested any freebie stuff yet, actually, hehe).
When considering the OP's question (regardless of how old this thread is), it does make me realize how much of a mess such a commonly desired (and often character defining) costume piece as wings are to acquire!
Seems a shame to me, but that's just my opinion on it. So many cool wing options, but they're somewhat buried in veteran rewards and random recipe drops (very common and easy to get on the market, but still a bit obscure for a new player looking to make a character).
However, the Valkyrie and Organic wings are available right up front (for a small price), as are the Steampunk wings.
Just seems like they should, at least, get some more standard wings in the character creator... because we do have them! The way it is makes it seem like the costume creator is more lacking than it really is. -
I don't think this means what you think it means...
You can't classify an AT as melee when most of its Primary Powers are Ranged!
Yes, a Blaster is a mix of Ranged and Melee, but to classify them specifically as "Melee" along with pure Melee ATs (even the ranged heavy Spines and Claws don't count enough to be classified as "Ranged") would be entirely misleading! -
Without IO sets and inventive craziness that people use to create greater awesomeness...
Dark Armor is another one of those sets that is just different. And people are always going to number crunch and/or try and play it like they play other sets and dislike it for the fact that it is not as efficient to use in that manner as most other sets.
The set really delivers on the thematic element of its power source and focuses on draining, disorienting, debilitating, freaking-out and giving you power more than other melee sets. Yes, it protects you the normal ways, but it also protects you (and empowers you) in different ways... And you either can enjoy that or not... but this game has a wonderful amount of choices that work in different ways and not everyone will like those ways.
IOs and the like can help people enjoy these odd sets in the normal playstyle ways, but the developers can't just make these odd sets equal to other sets for the normal playstyle, because then they'd have to lower its odd benefits, otherwise it'd be too powerful... and then we'd lose another exotic creature as a result.
Save the odd powersets!! They are great! You keep your round pegs and holes and respect the square pegs, please!
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<-- is not surprised by the ugliness
It starts with the idea to rotate out gated rewards that most everyone sees inherent problems with.
As a solution, the team shows a commitment to offer those rewards in some other way.
Some people don't wish for such developer-initiated solutions for the problem to take place... and/or express hopes for substantial requirements for others to attain what they've already attained.
To paraphrase a kind gentleman who'd not share such concerns...
Why so ugly?
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Quote:And, in some other dimension, it already has!Originally Posted by Zwillinger
Just a reminder that this will be happening.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Biowraith
To be honest, I was taking it that for the purposes of this thread that everyone quitting is an acceptable outcome. It's why I bothered to log in and post my own - I'd not advocate for them normally because I know the only way(s) to make them happen likely would result in lots of people quitting, but in this thread that's not an issue.No, no... you both are misunderstanding one thing...Quote:Originally Posted by Zyphoid
Yeah, I think I misunderstood that part.
So, and all 16 of my suggestions were things I would really do. There may be one or two that would cause complaining (too lite a word maybe), but I don't think many if any would quit over them.
Anyone who would hate us with a burning fire of passion...
Will never quit!!
Muhahahahaha!!
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Quote:I like all of that (and/or wouldn't mind terribly... other than wiping the old bases!Originally Posted by Zyphoid
...good stuff... (that goes for you too, Sam!)
Okay, off the top of my head, people would hate me for...
- I'd enable Villains and Heroes to travel to each and every zone.
- I'd figure out what further balancing I'd need to do for Vigilantes and Rogues. They may just be vestigial or they'd have benefits... not entirely certain.
- Enabling challenge/accept PvP dueling (solo and teams) for all open zones. There would be an auto-decline option and it would be entirely by choice to ever enter into a duel of any type.
- However, people would hate me just for having to see PvP going on in a regular zone.
- for the record, I never PvP, but I'd like this game to have the option to pummel on each other anywhere and everywhere, should we so choose.
- I'd slow down the day/night cycle.
- I'd make it at least half the speed it is now (that's likely no where near enough... maybe 5 times as slow), but very likely it'd be a lot slower than that.
- Special night spawns would be available elsewhere for the impatient!
I'm sure there are some others... Likely more about shifting the game's baseline dynamics to match a slower, enjoy smelling the roses sort of pace, as opposed to the full team, flash, boom, pow and move to the next spawn pace of today, hehe. As well as plenty of focus on customization and seemingly insignificant virtual reality considerations...
Lastly...
- People would hate me for how happy I was.
- I'd enable Villains and Heroes to travel to each and every zone.
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Quote:Huh, that was my first guess and I wondered if that was what he was going for...Originally Posted by Prince_Recluse
I was wondering that too. My assumption was Lion-O. Maybe Human Torch, but I am assuming he was going for Fur, not Fire.
(EDIT: After a closer look at the "flames" on his gloves and shoulders, I am going with Human Torch. Should have added an orange mask though.)
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Okay... Am I the only one here that doesn't know...
Quote:Who is the guy all the way on the right?Originally Posted by nytflyr
I can't recall the exact number, but I'm pretty sure that Beam Rifles was 600 and change... If I'm wrong, that's weird, because it has stuck in my head as it having been something around 635-645.Quote:Originally Posted by Snow Globe
No, they have two modes for power sets: full price (800 PP) or 25% off (aka 600 PP). I've yet to see a not free for VIP power set go for anything but 800 or 600 paragon points.
Anyway... very nice to see a great powerset go on a sale price!
I think that set is very much worth the price! -
Thank you very much for opening this up to all of us to answer!
Quote:I felt the same way.Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I'm filling this out right now, but it's kinda difficult when the neutral option is "meh" - that sounds more dismissive of something, rather than being not that interested in them
Like with the new power sets, I like seeing them in action, but I'll never use them myself, so I'd give that a neutral score, but it seems mean to write "meh" to something that's had a lot of time and effort spent on it
My neutral is a bit more optimistic/enthusiastic than that!
I had a hard time answering Number 8,"Do you think we should offer VIP exclusive items in the Paragon Market?", because, while my answer is "yes" I feel like it could be a case-by-case basis on whether or not they'd be permanently held from nonVIPs or opened up eventually.
I ended up answering permanently, just to show that I do support that, if the case seems to call for it (possibly rotated out VIP Tier 9 costumes).
I also said that I run Trials and Solo Incarnate content, but I listed "none, I don't run trials" as my answer to my favorite, because 1) I don't really have a single favorite and 2) I still haven't run a few of the later ones!!
Also... the "most exciting future additions" was easy... MORE POWER CUSTOMIZATION!
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Quote:I find myself putting a lot of this into the category of This game has pretty successfully covered a lot of the obvious/important stuff (and more), and much of what is left (that doesn't seem impossible for this engine) is going to be odd/eccentric stuff. (I'll have to come up with a shorter title for that category some day, haha)Originally Posted by Olantern
Both this thread and the Plummet itself reinforced an idea that my brain just keeps stubbornly resisting: the players have some very, very eccentric fixations.
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That's what I've come to think, as I struggle to find new ideas that aren't as widely craved as new things of the past.
Good stuff.
Mayhem Missions!!Quote:Originally Posted by Zyphoid
I just really do not enjoy any of the red side content. Now, if I had the option to kill off the contact in the end like in some of the GR arcs, then I would be all about it. I would play 1-50 there again just for the chance to kill Phipps.
Honestly, I pretty much just do paper and mayhem missions Redside (not necessarily because I dislike the other content, but more-so, because I enjoy the freedom of being my own villain via the generic missions... and getting to rob banks and destroy things including police and heroes!).
I don't need any other content! Just mentioning it for fun's sake... not that everyone should agree with me.
As Olantern summed up pretty well, it's not about "booster" packs, but "Super" packs.Quote:Originally Posted by Nethergoat
...The conspiracy theories being spun around booster packs sales are simultaneously funny and confounding- was there some massive forum asplosion when they introduced the market that birthed a group with an ideological bone to pick with the whole idea of booster packs?
I don't see anything to nitpick- they're massively popular, they made Paragon a tidy sum, and even players who hate the whole concept and swore a blood oath to never buy one still benefit from their contribution to the bottom line.
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People were happy spending their money and points on known/guaranteed virtual items. Some people have zero interest in randomized grab bags (which is fine), but... by adding in exclusive content, in the form of costume pieces (we all know how many issues gated costumes can create among this game's fans) there was a lot of negative reaction to the new packs.
It's no new ideology of some players... it was a new type of transaction.
*shrugs*
Glad the event went well! -
Just got in from a late night of work in New York...
Would have loved to have made it over there this weekend, but please say hi to everyone there!
Glad the good times are being had.
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I suggest this to new players, but I think it may help a returning player as well...
Forget about the numbers and what people say is or isn't the best...
Just play make believe and let the game deliver the fun like only it does.
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Quote:Exactly.Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Can Rogues/Vigilantes even get access to Hero/Villain bases? I haven't tried recently, and it is rather annoying from a purely RP stand-point. For example, you can't have the Heroes drag a Rogue into base for questioning and a possible tenuous alliance, or a Vigilante door-busting into a Villain base for a show-down before a begrudging deal to join forces against a common foe (before the inevitable backstab)
I agree that for travel and suchnot we already have a ton of options. But having access would be nice, if it's possible.
Dr. Doom may not be invited as a guest, but he can figure out a way in and make his uninvited appearance there and/or he can be brought back there as a captive.
If we're going to include role-play (which I think is a great thing!), that includes the role-play reasons some of us would love to see this option in place.
I understand the thoughts against such a change. However, if your SG turns against your will, then perhaps it is not your SG. Either make sure the SG is what you want it to be or accept what it is.
Honestly, all I would like is the ability to share access. That'd open up some fantastic possibilities.
The way this could be done to satisfy both sides is to require a special invite for such cross-faction visitations.
The permissions can be customized for who can invite cross faction.
Lastly, I would just simply like for Rogues and Vigilantes to be able to cross (I mean, I'd love to be able to have pure heroes and villains gain access as well, but I could understand only the grey alignments being able to).
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And, yes, Vanguard and the growing number of co-op scenarios are an in-game/in-universe prime example for why being able to have cross-faction access is "obvious". -
Count me as someone who really has little-to-no interest in new ATs... other than some shapeshifting thing they can cleverly use new mechanics to accomplish (and, yes, this is what I've said before anything was leaked).
There are other things I want to see far more badly and I've always felt like the current ATs cover everything quite well.
Further power customization (pool, ancillary, epic powers) sits at the top of my list of desires, miles above new ATs. -
This thread had me going through my character roster to check...
And it made me realize that I don't update my characters' outfits. It's not that I necessarily have a rule against it, but I haven't done so. And I didn't want to start out by saying that I "haven't" updated them, as that sounds like I intended to or that they needed it, hehe.
It's strange, because (as many like to point out to me) I am "overly" picky. So, you'd think that I'd tweak and update a good amount, but I apparently haven't.
Anyway, I can't really think of any costumes, off hand, that came to life because of one piece that finally was made available to us. I keep thinking that I must be forgetting something, but I haven't found it yet, if that is the case.
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Quote:And I think this is perfectly reasonable, but you wording it that way made me realize...Originally Posted by Nethergoat
I guess I think of it as a funtime game I play and not so much a business.
If I were following my bank I'd probably have different expectations and balk at extraneous frivolity...but following my superhero video game, I'm okay with pretty much whateves.
This is Zombie Man we are talking about (not a dig... wait for it)... And we certainly all benefit from his obsessive, business-like approach to all things CoH.
So, while it doesn't change my opinions on the matter (not like they matter!), it does shed a bit of light on it.
Zombie... Don't worry about the tweets... your spy devices should bring you all the information you'd need far better than twitter. -
Quote:Hehe, I think you may have missed that GG's comment was only "looking down" on what the OP had expressed and the extreme steps that such mindsets have been known to lead to. I read it as the opposite of looking down on us role-players.Originally Posted by AzureSkyCiel
>Golden Girl of all people looking down on Roleplayers when her own character is the quintessential self-insert.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Inazuma
(remember FASERIP?)
I still love just seeing that chart.
Anyway, that's interesting.
Is the system anything like this old one?
The old game was simple (we always played far more AD&D), yet that always seemed to be a big reason why it was such a great alternative.
Simple, broad, blocky rules ("blocky" because each column really covered ridiculous territory, especially the higher you went), but such an enormous depth to the powers and power usage.
The only real advancement we ever did with our characters, besides story-wise and building upon your place in the world, was power stunts.
Still, lack of power advancement always felt kinda right for the genre.
Anyway... sorry for the ramble about the old system... good memories (and Electric-Knight came from there), but I am curious how you'd compare the new system to the old (if it compares much at all).
And... not including a character creation system (besides the update on the internet now) is somewhat interesting. While it seems rather disappointing and odd, I could also see using a system where you just take pre-made examples and build your own characters yourselves without much hindrance of rules or anything.
You need to be able to trust the players for that, but in a world where we can be like Captain America or Hulk or Wolverine... have at it. The players aren't the only ones!
A team of Beyonders though... Good luck, GM!!
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If there's one thing I can't stand it's...
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I understand the point of it not being what a person had originally hoped and expected and set things up (with notifications) to be... However, I dislike whenever people claim x social media is not supposed to be used x way, haha.
Use it however you want.
Again, I understand not wanting to unfollow, but unfollowing if they don't use it how you wish... but there are no rules on how to use a tool. Any which way you figure out to use it... is a way to use it. Whether that's the right way or the wrong way can depend on the results, but certainly not from the opinions of established users via a certain method.
In other news... The postman says he'd like you to stop mailing rocks! -
Quote:They'd be on Freedom, dur hur hur hur... (keeding!!).Originally Posted by Quantum Evil
Besides, how would I tell the doofuses from the rest?