EU_Damz

Originally Posted by Tangler

I've never seen this mod in question, let alone in action, but to be fair Onion does have an active Onion Chat channel for non badge related discussions.

Originally Posted by Eisenzahn

The standard MMO formula is... kind of like an abusive relationship. People may hate certain things, but if they're not offered alternatives until they've become accustomed to those things, they may become convinced that those things are actually positive.

When I quit FFXI for this game, some of my old guildmates actually argued that things like quick travel times, solo gameplay, flexible build options, mild penalties for death, lack of competition over outdoor spawns, and a loot free (at the time) system of character improvement were bad ideas.

And yet... these were the same people who would complain constantly over Linkshell Chat about having to wait 20 minutes for the airship to show up, or ride a Chocobo for half an hour to reach some obscure camp in the middle of nowhere. Or about the number of hours they'd spent sitting around in Jeuno trying to get a team going. Or about the number of months it took them to obtain all of the gear, spells, level-cap unlocks, secret zone unlocks and faction reputation necessary to be considered worthy of team invites within even a 5-10 level span. Or how much of a hassle it was getting a good camp location where you could effectively fight the monsters you were grinding for EXP without having to compete with a dozen other teams over the same spawns. Or the Notorious Monster system, which encouraged all kinds of ridiculous griefing and drama, and was the main way most players encountered RMT farmers in game. Or about how many times they'd died enough to de-level entirely, and how wary that made everyone of trying out any new content without following someone else's fine tuned strategy to the letter. Or the incredibly low drop rates of the high-end raid content, where you could go for months at a time without successfully completing an event, and even when you did, your chances were less than 1 in 100 of actually getting a reward. Or about how we'd been camping King Ranperre's Tomb for six hours, but some other guild was able to get the Vrtra legendary dragon spawn because they were using taunt bots, or because of server latency, or because it's just crummy design to put something like that on a 3-4 day timer and then load it with some of the best loot in the game, if you don't want players getting pissed at each other over it.

What they didn't seem to realise was that these problems could all be summed up as Time Sinks. The game developers needed to keep subscriptions going by making everything as time consuming as possible. There was a lot of excellence and beauty in that game, but it was clear that it only existed to provide a minimum effective incentive to put up with the rest of it.

This game... the developers seem to respect our time. And more importantly, they get involved. I haunted the official FFXI forums pretty much around the clock, and I didn't even know the names of any of the developers. Maybe that's because they were focused on communicating with their core audience, the Japanese players, but it's still a pretty unfavorable contrast to the way the developers here operate. They respect us and they listen to us. They may not agree with what they hear, but they bother to check in the first place.

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That said... MORE STORY CONTENT IN ISSUE 17, INDEPENDENT OF WHAT'S CONTAINED IN THE PAID PORTION OF GOING ROGUE, PLEASE!!!

Originally Posted by Obsidius

Wait... when did I ever say in this thread that I did feel strongly about this? Haven't I said throughout this thread that I was being half serious, that I was humored, etc.?

Happy Halloween, indeed Where'd all the starch come from? Perhaps my top hat is throwing everyone off?

Oh crap, I forgot the M&M's in my vest pocket!

Originally Posted by The_Thorny_Devil

That. Is. F'ing. Moronic.

By the way, it is possible for a Op to kick another Op....

Originally Posted by DocDominion

Whoa, forgive me for not looking into this, but Going Rogue is a PAID expansion?!

Originally Posted by Obsidius

Perhaps I'm just being too nitpicky, or perhaps the Going Rogue frenzy has combined with a Halloween candy sugar rush and made everyone a bit loopy.

• Player question in the General Discussion board (Instead of the Player Questions board)
• Player question in the General Discussion board (Instead of the Player Questions board)
• Roleplaying in the General Discussion board (Instead of the Roleplaying board)
• Player question in the General Discussion board (Instead of the Player Questions board)
• Players guide in the General Discussion board (Instead of the Players Guides board)
• Roleplaying in the General Discussion board (Instead of the Roleplaying board)
• Forum Game in the General board (Instead of the Forum Game board)
• Player question in the General Discussion board (Instead of the Player Questions board)
• Player question in the General Discussion board (Instead of the Player Questions board)
• Roleplaying in the General Discussion board (Instead of the Roleplaying board)
• Comments in the Player Question board (Instead of the General Discussion board)
• Suggestions in the Technical Issues board (Instead of the Suggestions and Ideas board)

I am not trying to come down on anyone in particular about these problems, it just seems a little humorous how disorganized things have become on the boards, just within the past week. I blame full moon fever, GR hubris, chocolate overdose, or something

<ducks>

Originally Posted by Rent_

I'm gonna take a wild stab in the dark here and guess Damz means Black* on Sals?


*Not naming and shaming so don't cry.

Originally Posted by Obsidius

I think we'll just have to disagree on the semantics Marcian. Weather RPing an in-game character or applying an in-game role to a forum persona, a fictitious role is still being played.

Again, I mostly blame the GR hubris and novelty for this phenomena, and am not judging anyone partaking harshly.

Originally Posted by Obsidius

Well, on this topic in particular, it's my belief that most of P_P's posts belong in the Player Questions thread. However, her posts are on a leash in the General Discussion boards in the hopes that a red name will stop by to give them a rub behind the ears. Lamentably, the devs don't have much time to stop and pet poodle posts.

This, of course, is just IMPO.

Originally Posted by EU_Greg

Not surprised in the slightest.

Originally Posted by Catwhoorg

*Nukes the forest from orbit*

Its the only way to be sure.

Originally Posted by Golden Girl

The be prepared for Praetorian_Office_Large_08

Originally Posted by Perfect_Pain

Wow's graphix looked like crap that was the "other" reason I didn't play it.
The first reason was I hated what the characters looked like.

Originally Posted by EU_Greg

GLOBAL SUPERGROUP?!?!?!?!?!?!
It must be done!

Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay

I would think it were RolePlaying if we were "in character". Right now, we're just acting zany and finding creative outlets to show our love for GR. None of us is anything more than who are really with a hyperbolized love for whichever faction we want to play.

That being said, I'd love for a GR forum to form and stay, in order to hold the information until it was properly integrated into the game.

Or, since it's a paid expansion... never integrate it, as the conversations won't appeal to everyone.