ConFlict

This is the most wrong thing you have ever posted. Ever. It is scary how little you actually know about what happened and why. And what that the true effects were exactly the opposite of what they wanted. And if you had been in i13 beta you would know a good many of the voices around here now that talk and are listened to and respected were there fighting in vain. If they had actually listened to the list that pvpers poured countless man hours into they would have been better off. Instead they pulled ideas at random given by pvErs and used them.


You can probably search around and still find the defining moment of pvp2.0 were we told very specfically that pvPers were not the 'segement' they were concerned about with the changed.



Edit: oh and how did that work out for them, ignoring the pvpers? we lost pvpers and never really gained new blood. Well played devs, well played.

Just going to point out that only a small handful of stalkers even use as in this game any more. FCers already do use stalkers. Not going to say scaling as is the way to go though, but it defintely could use a little more bite. I know if they did give it a buff though that the raging amongst bad players would be epic.

funnily he is from yours.

jo bros are pretty awesome, no justin beiber but still who is.

Fosslize called while you were out, it left a message stating you are wrong.

Real pvp for real men, sun.

You don't actually read any of my help post it would seem.

Is there any subject we can talk about where you will actually have a clue wtf you are talking about. Because this ain't it. I will let you know the reason for people wanting arena to be closer to i12. Because without it the box you want people to think outside of was even smaller. It took 2 ases to get a kill. Period, it was the only way possible. And while it may seem like they have very defined set ups they bring this only holds true with jump teams. Disruption based teams have wild varation. You may actually want to look into arena pvp before you comment on it again.



Also I am very anti-checkboxes. Its one of the reasons you don't hardly ever see me in the arena. I can do it, not that well but I can still do it. I just don't really like having to burn a dual build on an arena set up and another on zones. So please act like i am bad arean boi more.



See the difference here again is I actually know what I am talking about because I looked into it. Something it appears you do not ever do.





Anyone who thinks a traps corr is in any way more viable or survivable than a traps mm is so wrong I am suprised they can remember how to breath. Anyone who thinks a traps corr is more useful than a traps mm to a team be it arena or zone I would believe to suffer from the same affliction. You are as bad as a traps corr in pvp, and thats pretty damn bad.

I try to be nice. I try to be patient. But seriously dude, why are you still talking. Let me start by saying I have played /dev and I have played traps. Other than webnade they are completely different, its not even close. As for the more mobile part, traps really isn't about being mobile on a mm, and for the record the only place the corr has more hp is to narrow minded people who only think of the hp total in the bar. MMs have some of the highest hp in the game unless they are played by someone who is really really bad. Dependancy on bg mode for infinte more survivabilty seems like a pretty decent trade off.

Lets break it down like this. I see a trapper who has set up debuffs. I am on a blaster. I see a corr and I waste it in little to time from range while he sits there either phasing or healing. It won't take much of a chain to bring him down, even ioed and accoed. Phasing makes him useless. And the only real hope they have is either someone wanders in and sits there or they tp someone in who isn't moving. Either way this is counting on the other player to be bad, which is what you shouldn't be preparing for in pvp. You should be preparing for the best to be attacking you at your worst. This is what I have said to you and countless others like you for quite some time now. We get it, you can kill bad zone pvpers. Congrats, this does not mean you should be answering questions like you have figured out the mysteries of the universe and no one else has.




Listen to your own words. Offering help is not the same thing as helping. You are not helping anyone with your so called advice. There is a reason every person who has replied to any of your post save your one friend has told you over and over your advice is horrible, its because it is. I like that you want to get out there and let the voice of the 'gimp' set pvper out there. I will gladly point out again between barrier and myself we play more gimps than anyone else probably in game today. And we make them work far better than any of the results you posted. Hell since I brought it up the only real results/data you have posted to back up any claims that you have a clue are bad. Like real bad. Those are not the things you bring to a discussion to try to prove your point. Keep on rocking your ideas, just don't expect me or pretty much anyone around here to let it go unchecked. You post something decent we agree with I am sure you will have no problems with it not getting called out. But as long as you keep promoting the same message don't expect the replies to change.




At this point you are just posting to post, you really haven't even tried to be helpful since your intial burst of traps corr and tp = win post. You have managed to use insulting names and comments when you have not been greated with the acclaim you had obviously hoped for. I am sorry things didn't work out for you. But I admire your spirit to carry on in despite the complete lack of success. Perhaps you should try to learn some new stuff and post more help. Perhaps help people with builds when they ask and offer up truthful represntation of power sets. The community here is always willing to accept new people to step up and take the reins of leading new blood. We just want them to be leading them down the right paths.

I will get to the rest of the tl;dr when I get more time. Its personal when you call me the comedian and come at me. I respond in kind, break down your post so the you understand exactly where I am coming from and going.


As far as speaking for the community I will step out there and say I do. I am one the most knowledgeable and helpful pvpers left. You don't see me firing at people and mocking them, unless they fire first. This all started with you telling someone that traps was a completely viable zone toon as a corr. It not just my experience that says its bad. Its pretty much everyone but you. And even to that point all I did was correct the parts where you are blatantly wrong, and I backed it up with facts. And not facts like I can kill a scrapper that afks in my traps or I have a 9/5 k/d ratio in 3 hours in zone. I am here to help people pvp better. You on the other hand want to spread your joy and sunshine message that unique butterflies should be loved and appreciated. Well they shouldn't, they should be farmed like the zone liability that they are. Pure and simple.

I fail to see me being funny their. Good job resorting to name in a reply to a sentence about name calling though, very well played.


Epic didn't ask for anything to be fixed. He was wanted to know why some things worked they way they did. Then went on to whine and moan about how unfair it is and how lame someone base tping themselves is.



Here is the good part. I do play traps in pvp. I do have toons with tp I have pvped with. I have posted that over and over. You seem to somehow miss those post though. You didn't invent it. You didn't even perfect it. I have even replied to people around here that they need tp for what they are trying to do.


Maybe someday when you come up with better advice or even a better attitude you might be taken more serious around these parts. It probably just won't be any time soon.