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I've been playin some in RV on my peacebringer, yes thats right, a peacebringer and I've had some trouble getting at some MM's so i thought about rolling one. Whats a good combo for it?


 

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thugs/what ever you want. That will pretty much work.


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why thugs, why not mercs cause they are more ranged based, minus the fact that they do only lethal dmg


 

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1v1, a PB will pretty much never be able to kill a MM. The only way you're gonna kill a MM is if your nova is 200 feet away and the MM's attention is not on you.

I rolled a Bots/Therm MM, it should do alright, but I heard /pain MM is super hard to kill. I wonder if demon's MM would be worth waiting for?


 

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Demons will be decent to good. Thugs is good for a lot of the perks they have like built in leadership and gang war is hot. Pain, traps, therm and dark can all be next to be impossible to kill. On the more offensive side poison is just cruel to fight.


A pb with its aoes and slotted for range would have one of the easier times killing an mm.


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I believe demons will perform really well. They have quite a number of -recharge and -resist debuffs in their attacks.


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Originally Posted by treydawg View Post
why thugs, why not mercs cause they are more ranged based, minus the fact that they do only lethal dmg
Mercs have a lot going for them, stuns, holds, lot's of defense debuffing, they web and blind... but great damage is not one of those things. Better to think of mercs as disruption for making kills easier for allies/teammates.


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Originally Posted by Dahjee View Post
Mercs have a lot going for them, stuns, holds, lot's of defense debuffing, they web and blind... but great damage is not one of those things. Better to think of mercs as disruption for making kills easier for allies/teammates.
mercs are bad.

back in i12, i used to make goodish mm players sit out matches because of all the hell that results from having mercs around.

they cause hold suppression with the stupid webnades.
they cause kb suppression even if they don't kb targets (a la force bubble).
they do crappy damage.
and since they dont stack leadership on each other, the synergy between them and other mm pets is nonexistent.



mercs are horrible.
nothing's better than gang mf war when it comes to mms.
i've been messing around with a thugs/poison and i can wholeheartedly say that thugs is 20x better than ninjas, mercs and even necro in the new system (since you dont have to carry break-frees anymore, hence a self-heal is easily replaced with greens).


 

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how is poison anymore? i was thinking about doing maybe demons/poison since they didnt ever proliferate poison over to corrs(nor does it seem at all likely at this point).

does the slow matter? hold, skippable? noxious any good? my last attempt at an mm was necro/psn but i didnt stick with it long enough and deleted in the 30s, ~i8.


 

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how is poison anymore? i was thinking about doing maybe demons/poison since they didnt ever proliferate poison over to corrs(nor does it seem at all likely at this point).

does the slow matter? hold, skippable? noxious any good? my last attempt at an mm was necro/psn but i didnt stick with it long enough and deleted in the 30s, ~i8.
Hold is skippable since it doesnt last long.

Noxious is still the best power in the set, even though it has long recharge.

The slow is still pretty good, but its mainly good because of the "puke" effect it can cause that is basically a unresistable hold.

As far as MM secondaries go Poison is pretty sick, I cant give any advise on Demons since it isnt out yet, and I haven't seen any of the powers.

However, Necro/Poison and Thugs/Poison are probably the strongest 1v1 dueling builds. I used to run my Necro/Poison quite a bit. I loved it. Necro is immune to movement slows so it really helps against rads/colds. On top of that necro has -tohit that stacks with the Poison -tohit debuff.

Thugs has the stacking leadership and gangwar going for it, and a bruiser buffed with noxious gas is downright scary if they get in melee range.

I would also like to say if you are going purely zone, Pain is probably the most survivable set out there and Thermal is all kinds of good because of Heat Exhaustion.

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Demon/Poison will be mf beast in 1v1s.


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Hey guys, my post doesnt really have much advice, but if you wanna try out demons, they just opened up the test realm to everyone and you could test out demons. i tried it yesterday. Looks cool, but i didnt level it. . . .at all :P


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Originally Posted by treydawg View Post
I've been playin some in RV on my peacebringer, yes thats right, a peacebringer and I've had some trouble getting at some MM's so i thought about rolling one. Whats a good combo for it?
Bots/TA

it will **** the face of any other primary secondary MM combo with the exception of FF and storm.


 

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Hey guys, my post doesnt really have much advice, but if you wanna try out demons, they just opened up the test realm to everyone and you could test out demons. i tried it yesterday. Looks cool, but i didnt level it. . . .at all :P
cool, thanks. is there a list of the powers somewhere? im at work for the next 3 hours..


 

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mercs are bad....mercs are horrible....
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Originally Posted by theduke24 View Post
Hey guys, my post doesnt really have much advice, but if you wanna try out demons, they just opened up the test realm to everyone and you could test out demons. i tried it yesterday. Looks cool, but i didnt level it. . . .at all :P
Uhhh, no they didn't.


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Uhhh, no they didn't.


 

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Put noxious gas on an rv heavy. That is all.


 

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Originally Posted by Deus View Post
1v1, a PB will pretty much never be able to kill a MM. The only way you're gonna kill a MM is if your nova is 200 feet away and the MM's attention is not on you.

I rolled a Bots/Therm MM, it should do alright, but I heard /pain MM is super hard to kill. I wonder if demon's MM would be worth waiting for?
I have a Thug/Pain MM and it does very nicely in PVP if you can get over the slow catch up speed of pets with MM's. Prepare to be ganked hard though. Very few sets could take me out solo. The exceptions mainly AoE's that not just damage, but cause pets to flee I think Burn or Bonfire were a few. Also Grav wormhole was just outright nasty, as is any TP power, but wormhole could fling you in the air with your pets leaving you out of supremacy range.

Apart from that it was a good combo. Racked up about 330 rep before I got bored of PvP. Wish I stuck it out for the 400 rep badge, but there you go.

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Put noxious gas on an rv heavy. That is all.
Should ban em in my opinion.