Canine

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Well, we'll see what numbers we have before venturing into RV.

I'll see folks at 7pm tonight, in whatever sadistic meeting spot Canine has chosen for his week off

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Well if you were around more than two evening a week, you might a) get more value out of your sub, and b) be able to see in advance where the meeting points are :P

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Well we could always do something else next week instead and do RV the following week...

Okay, we may run a TF next monday.

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Don't wait up on my account.

Feel free to amble into whatever trouble you feel like finding without me.

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I've been informed that since I couldn't make it on Mnoday, we'll be running the RV next week instead.

Thanks very much for waiting guys, I appreciate it. I look forward to Monday!

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Well, good luck, because I'd forgotten that I'd agreed to go out for a meal next Monday.

Hence I shall most likely not be there.

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anyone know the slashcommand for those new emotes? if any?

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/cc_emote (or /cc_e) <slot> <change emote>

Where <slot> is the usual 0-5 convention, and <change emote> is one of :

CCPrestoChango
CCLightning
CCSpin
CCCast

(info slightly paraphrased from BaB's post here. )

This one cropped up recently on the US boards courtesy of Positron.

If you find a real stinker of an AE arc, and consider 1 star too generous, you can click twice on 1 star to give a zero star rating.

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We were experiencing the mission selection bug too. The team lead could only select his own tasks so we had to play 'Pass the Star'.

Chat also seems to be behaving a bit odd with it picking up input from before you press Enter to start. I had several messages prefaced with 'wwwwwwwwaasds'

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Did some testing with Doc Toerag and Doc Green.

If a mission is NOT flagged with a faction (Hero/Villain), then you can pick it from anyone's roster if you're team lead, regardless of whether all team members are in zone or not. (Hurrah! At bloody last, etc.)

If a mission IS Faction flagged, it can still be selected if not all members of the team are in the zone, but the team lead can only select their own missions of that type, so to select another team members factional mission, you need to play pass the star... (Boo! Too bleeding complex, and a pain in the waist capes)

I think that is how it's working at the moment.

But it's late and I'm tired. So if anyone's got any comments, queries or clarifications on how they think it's working, feel free to pipe up about it.

(I've not tried anything with a mixed team in Ourobouros or RWZ yet, so it may be entirely different in that situation)

PS and the beginchat keybinds picking up the key used in the bind as the first character is a pain in the waist capes, too. Since it doesn't actually display that initial character until you've started typing...

Completely Off topic.

http://tinyurl.com/cv64tn

That's a link to the spreadsheet I put together listing all the IO recipe/crafting costs for all generic IO's at all levels.

If you're planning on doing some serious IO badging/making, it can save you a fortune by telling you what you should be willing to pay at the most at the auctions for a given recipe.

It's self explanatory, which is good, cos I'm not going to explain any of it.

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It was good fun, and completed well before the shields went back up.

On another note who/what/how do people get starts above their name i must have some setting i never knew about turned off cause im such a noob.

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Right click someone, select 'add note', you can the assign a number of stars to display above their heads. You can have it display always, or only when they're selected, or not at all.

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Stats? Wot's those? I play for fun, and that, as they say.. is that. Kinda why I'm enjoying my Sonics/defender, even though he has NO attacks at level 15, lol

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Not quite true, you'll have at least 3.

Brawl, Your Tier 1 secondary and your Origin attack.

Choosing not to use any of them is a different matter however, and not necessarily all that uncommon among defenders.

(this has been a broadcast on behalf of the society for pointless pedantry.)

OK, so maybe a little self aggrandisement is in order.

For nigh on a year now, there's been a Cold/Storm/Ice themed team running on Monday evenings, calling itself Cold Front.

Pretty much all of us have hit 50, most a long while back, and it's been a fun ride. Since we're starting to wind down, and people are getting a little itchy to try something else, we decided to try a Mothership raid tonight.

There were two instance of RWZ open tonight, so we ambled into RWZ 2 and after a little waiting, there were 13 of us.

Being idiots, we decided to push on regardless. (it also had a little to do with the fact that we've found relatively little that can stand up to all the debuffs, control and damage we can throw around with casual abandon.)

Long story shorter. We won.

U'Kon flattened, everyone stood on the exploration badge at the centre of the mothership, no complete raid wipes.

I couldn't be prouder of the group of lunatics that have been part of this over the past 45 weeks, so I thought I'd post this here where it may get a little more notice. Congratulations to all involved.

I only thought to start the demorecord once U'Kon hit about 75% health, so he's only in there for about 30 secs. He dropped like a sack of spuds.

There's a link to a zip of the demorecord Here, but it'll only work for the first 10 people downloading it. If anyone has a better suggestion for somewhere to put it, I'm open to suggestions.

The Demorecord is LOUD to start off and doesn't really get much quieter. This is because the demo playback doesn't use any in game settimgs you may have used, and I have the game turned down on my machine and the global volume turned up to make TS clearer Also, the demorecord is missing all the random gibberish spouted on TS, for which you should be thankful

Extremely well done to all involved.

The Intrepid Fools.

The least laggy Ship raid I've been on yet

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Cool... Thanks alot

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In fact, you can ditch all the stay commands and just use goto.

A goto command on their current location is as near as dammit identical to a stay command.

I'm talking from the PoV of a Robotics/Traps MM, but I have only every needed 3 macros and one bind to control my pets.

The macros are Follow Aggressive, Follow Passive, Goto Aggressive, and a bind on the forward button on the side of my mouse for Attack Aggressive.

If I need my pets to go somewhere and do nothing, then I use the Goto Aggressive macro to put them somewhere with no mobs nearby and manually set them to passive using the pet window commands.

Unfortunately I have zero experience of Necro, so the playstyle of a Necro MM may be so completely unlike that of a bots MM that my experience is totally useless.

Good luck figuring out a playstyle that works for you though, as that's all the really matters.

(PS I don't use Bodyguard mode, either.)

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This is not a debate thread, so keep non constructive critisism to your self.

Cheers

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Sorry, but you're posting a non-locked thread in a public board (*) and you expect autocratic control over what people post in it?

Not going to happen, especially when it's on as contentious an issue as farming and PL'ing. And surely you should know that by now?

(*) - For a given value of public. It's readable by anyone, and writable if you've an active sub.

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OK, my Bots/Traps MM is levellig nicley and as it doesnt require a team it is easy going - currently causing havoc in Cap au Diable, however I do have a question I am not sure about.

When I use the 'upgrade' on one of my two basic bots the 'upgrade' status logo (next to name) appears next to both and my Protectpr bot. Dop I need to upgrade all 3 or just do one upgrade which covers all?

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One upgrade cover all bots :3

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It's now a 30' radius around the pet you target. All pets in that radius get the upgrade.

It's also why the endurance cost on the upgrades are so silly nowadays.

In some ways it made life easier, in some ways it didn't.

Definitely a very nice change when it comes to starting off in a mission. No more 3 minute setup periods.

Having to resummon and reupgrade in combat is now horrendously expensive in endurance, however.

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If you could please Canine that would be great thanks - currently at lvl 6 and almost out of Mercy thank god!

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Hmm, I don't have a heroplanner version, since I don't use planning utilities, but you can have a quick and dirty potatoshopped version of what my enhancement management screen looks like.

<braces for storms of hilarity aimed at build>

I'll point out now that the build is fully functional for me and my playstyle. it is NOT an example in ZOMGWTFBBQ!!!1!1!!11 twinked out solo AV killing death machine building.

If I were to suddenly have a brain haemorrhage and decide to respec him, I'd shift some slots around, lose a couple of powers, and maybe look into acquiring Stamina, if only for Health so I had somewhere to put the Numinas Unique I had drop off a SF about 8 months ago that I've got made up and sitting in my Enhancement tray...

I'll see about grabbing the latest version of mids and putting together a planner build from the screenshot, but don't hold your breath

:edit: OK, let's try this, then. (for Mids 1.401)

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That, in theory is my current build, except that the slot allocation order is nothing at all like it should be. I got the exact power order back out of the game by repeatedly flashbacking to progressively higher level arcs

Not sure how much use it willbe to you, but for what it's worth, there you go.

A couple of notes. Pulse Rifle Blast is there as a pulling tool, hence the range enhancements. Detonator I consider to be a complete pile of crud.

At level 50, the usual attack sequence is Web Envelope, Tell bots to 'kill that thing over there' (I've got 'petcom_all Attack Aggressive' bound to the forward button on my mouse), Photon Grenade, start liberally applying Web Grenades.

If that all works, then the spawn gets glued to the floor, the torrent of Aoe damage starts, then some of them will get stunned by mine and the Protector bots' Photon Grenades, and with any luck I can get a Web Grenade to glue a boss/lieutenant to the floor before Stompy uses the Swarm missiles and sends half the mobs flying backwards. This last point is important because of Incendiary Swarm Missiles.

Seeker Drones are used to take the alpha off particularly hazardous looking spawns. Caltrops get dropped at my feet to keep melee mobs away from me. Triage, Acid Mortar and poison trap get used when I feel they need to be, or alternatively when I set up a 'fortress' with all my traps at one point, where I then stand and watch things die around me.

I'll give fair warning, this build can and will haemorrhage endurance like it's going out of fashion if you're not careful.

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Has anyone got a good example build for Bots/Traps MM? I am dabbling into the murky waters villains side but have no idea of what to go for

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I could post my non set-IO based Bots/Traps build, if you really REALLY want, but I'll warn you now, it's probably seriously idiosyncratic and tied almost inexorably to my personal playstyle.

It's the build I freespecced into at level 47 back in Issue 7, with the last 3 levels added to it, and I've not felt a burning need to change it since.

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That Edict Of The Master +Pet Defense and Sovereign Right +Pet Resistance IO's are expensive.

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But MM's can't use recharge intensive pet sets in their main minions, only in something like Dark Servant, so it's less of an issue.

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So this is where you go when you're not dying in a sewer!

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Nah, the board clock's a little screwy. IIRC my second reply above was posted before you logged in.

As a quick test, my local time right now is 17:06 GMT. Wonder what time the board will tag this post at?

:edit: Oh look, one hour out. What a shock. :P

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Oh, I see. Many thanks

I have 4 melee sets that give +5% each;
1 taunt set gives +5%; and
3 defence sets give +5% each.

Would I still get only +25% in this case?

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Yep, the 5% bonus, a maximum of 5 times.

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I have just slotted my brute. By my count, I should get +40% recharge global recharge bonus from all the sets I have slotted in. But when I look, it only has +25%. Is that 25% the cap for global recharge set boneus for brute?

Please help.

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If you've slotted 8 sets all giving +5% recharge, then it's working exactly as it should.

You can only benefit from 5 copies of the same set bonus, regardless of which set it comes from, so for (a hypothetical) example, if you slot 2 resistance sets, 1 defence set, 2 PBaOE sets and 3 Melee Damage sets, all of which include a +5% recharge bonus, then you would get +25% recharge, not the +40% you may be expecting.

Not sure if that's any help or not.

Oh, and no, the global recharge cap for Brutes is NOT +25%

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Hmm been thinking about it and the end goal will keep me on these powersets. The things this combo can do with a small(by my standards) investment is amazing.

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Meh. IO's are unnecessary.

My Robotics/Traps had no real issues on the plod to 50, apart from Issue 7 &lt;shudder&gt;.

Admittedly I was regularly teamed with a Brute and Corruptor, but soloed regularly too.

Nowadays, even though I'm running with generic IO's since I went after the crafting badges, there are no set IO's in his build (and no Stamina, either)

FFG is the big trick in Traps as far as I'm concerned. Well, that and web grenade to keep things on the Incendiary Missile Swarm's burn patches.

Early levels can be painfully slow, as AoE damage is something that happens to other MM's until you get to 32. (there's a small amount of AoE at 26 with Dual Plasma Blast and Flamethrower on Stompy, but that's yer lot until your pets get Full Auto Laser, Seeker Drones, Photon grenades, Swarm Missiles and &lt;drool&gt; Incendiary Swarm Missiles &lt;/drool&gt.

Play to your strengths, use traps to keep mobs at range, and you shouldn't have too many troubles.

Oh, and don't forget to pick up Recall Friend. It's pretty much essential once your Protector Bots get Seeker Drones. &lt;exits, swearing about long standing bugs&gt;

Guess what we did tonight?

And bloody stressful it was, too. (says the lump of stone that was trying to make sure everything was annoyed at it, not the rest of the team)

Saved by the one shot code more than a couple of times

Thanks to the rest of the idiots who attended for the assistance.

See you lot tomorrow night.

Can I just point out that for those looking for the hour long audio, it's possible to download the mp3 that's streamed on the Massively web page, which is 61Mb.

I'm not sure on the rights and wrongs of sidestepping the streaming, so I'm not going to give the link here, but suffice to say that viewing the page source and doing a quick text search for '.mp3' should reveal all

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Speaking of which, will this make Hover worthwhile* for melee ATs?




*(Please don't start an argument on opinions )

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It'll make it more useful for melee AT's IMO, but since autofollow on flight/hover still doesn't get you into melee range easily, it'll still not be as easy to use as Combat Jumping.

All the above my opinion only, since I've not tested flight/hover with melee for a long time. The I13 increased ranges on melee attacks may help to combine well with Hover's speed buff, they may not. Going to require some actual testing.

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The Cimerora arcs may be in order next week, or maybe RWZ (arcs).

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My regular mob have done all the Cimerora arcs, so I was contemplating seeing how much of the RWZ stuff we could get done in one evening.