Bramphousian

I thought it was a good strategy. On the round before, I kept getting tied up in the stone ruins in the centre when trying to evade the Flow Lightning and it kept breaking line of sight when trying to fire on the return to him.

I noticed Lore pets shuffling around trying to get LOS as well.

We did hit 5 on the first cycle.

Unfortunately, someone popped a light just before Tyrant hit his weakened state. Just behind him, a light went out. I couldn't see who did it, as there was a mass of people, but I definitely saw a single light go out, which brought us to 13 total.

I was on both of those leagues with you, and they were both painless.

The biggest success factor wasn't past experience, it was having our team size limited. Mind you, that is not to discount @Amygdala's leadership, or the ability of the players in any way. Everyone did very well, and Amy, as I've come to expect, did a fantastic job.

Last weekend, I ran several with Amy. Full leagues mostly. We ran a league with a nearly identical makeup back to back, followed the same strategy and had different results. We summoned lore at approximately the same juncture and the first run went smoothly, and the second was a failure.

The biggest game changer is the level shift application. Fully applied to a 16-man team, and we whizzed through Tyrant in, what? 5 minutes? This weekend, the level shifts were spotty, sometimes hitting pets, some team members getting full shifts sometimes, some members getting partial shifts sometimes, some receiving none at all. This was on 16-man runs, 20-man runs, 24-man runs. During the 16-man runs, Amy and I both reported not getting shifts. We didn't notice any lore pets, but neither of us could remember whether other pets were present. Since limiting to 16-people without pets, players are consistently getting the full benefit of the shifts, so obviously, there were pets present that we didn't notice.

16 people fighting Tyrant fully shifted made the encounter a breeze. If (and when) the bug is fixed, if shifts apply to 24 people plus all of their pets, I believe it will make the basic encounter (not a Hard Way/RHW attempt) almost trivial.

The bug is making a more significant difference than many people were acknowledging. I imagine that the cries of "Tyrant is too hard! I will never run this again!" will cease entirely upon the correction being applied.

+5% HP

I thought you had to be Hero/Vigilante. I could be mistaken.

My interpretation is that if Tyrant is able to consume the Guard, he is able to be buffed from it. Should we destroy them, he is unable to receive the buff. This plays into the "keep the Guards away" mention in the Full-size League UI.

So, Amy... despite being invisible... how does it feel to be correct?

Honestly, I like the challenge, and I really don't want the final encounter nerfed. I am wondering if the seemingly random shifts (or lack thereof) during the encounter is WAI.

Assuming it isn't, and that the entire league is intended to get the +6 every time all lights are extinguished, I would imagine correcting that issue would dramatically swing the success/failure rate to the positive.

I like that we were not given an overview of this trial, so that players are left to figure it out. I enjoy not having a strategy handed to me. In fact, the first one I was invited to, I had advised the team leader that I did not read anything to do with the trial, prior to playing it, and she had me along, and we ran it. Successfully. Granted, the very next run had largely the same characters on it (perhaps 3 of 24 were different), and it failed. I'm of the opinion that the wildly swinging and inconsistent shifts was the deciding factor.

I am fully aware that I am in the minority, but I really like this trial and foresee myself regularly playing it.

Tried this again with the same character. Jumping in and out of melee range was modifying my shifts. First, when in melee range, I was getting +9, and then +3 as I jumped out. This happened twice in a row.

Then, the opposite happened. I got +3 when near Tyrant, and +9 when away. This happened twice in a row. Every time I jumped in and out of melee range, the shift was changing.


The next time the lights were out, I maintained +3. After that, +9.

Then the swinging dependent on my proximity to Tyrant happened again, for at least three times the lights were out. These were all +9 in melee range, and +3 away.

Anecdotal as it is, I just experienced odd behaviour. When all the lights were out, and I was near Tyrant, I was +9. I jumped out of range, and was immediately +3. I jumped back near Tyrant and immediately granted +9.

The next time, I tried the same... but stayed within range for a few seconds. I maintained +8. I jumped out, and was +3. I remained there, and maintained +3. Then jumped back in and was +8. No lights were lit.

This doesn't dispute the "random" thing, just sort of throws an odd twist to it.

Every other time the lights were out that followed that, I remained +3, regardless of where I was or how many lights were unlit.


For two runs prior to that, myself and another player did not receive any shift boost, which supports the "random" aspect, but it seems unlikely that neither of us would receive a shift at all. Though not everybody reported their shift status, we were seemingly the only two that did not receive a single shift. The league leader reported shifting twice for both runs.