AzureSkyCiel

You're not the only one. Trust me.
But, I suppose it's better than the reveal of the incarnate system requiring you to never change alignments and does give some motivation for everyone to not all go rogue/vigilante beyond character concept/RPers.

Sorry, I feel bad about being such a negative person about this.

Stop sticking your tongue out, GG, you're not a frog and even if you were, now is not the time to catch flies

Nah, the spy AT's able to use ranged attacks, but her still uses stalker Stealth Strikes.
He also has the ability to sap mechanical things and sleep with your mother.

Actually, being a perfectionist can be EXACTLY what causes the most frustration with based editing. Like how I REALLY don't like it when you get the flicker from two merged item surfaces attempting to overlap one another with rare exceptions.

To play Devil's Advocate, I can say that Sam hits quite a few nails on the head about the problems with Redside, but to play the opposite side, new redside zone requests are NOT what this thread is about. It's about existing buildings and updating the look and feel of zones we already HAVE, this is also covering only buildings and not the mission contacts because this is AN ALL THINGS ART thread, and the Devs have already promised a review of old content and improving it like the Positron TF.

Now, suggestions perhaps I could make for this thread and for Sam to liven up redside zones that exist (outside of where contacts send you because, as stated, that's a different thread) is that while the Rogue Isles are indeed Islands, they seem to be aggressively industrial, and the bodies of water between islands can be a lot bigger than what we often see.

So perhaps what should be done is the islands being expanded one. "Madness!" you might say, but indeed, many coastal, island, or bay cities and so forth used landfills as means of artificially expanding the land surface, and I don't see why the people of the Rogue Isles might not do the same.

Expanding the islands, updating their look, giving them a larger area for which things can be worked with, buildings can be spread out, oh, another thing that might be cool (though civil projects are WAY out of LR's character to have done) might include like an inter-island highway system and/or underground subway system (which could add EVEN MORE places to go, like underground slums and stuff)

Funny enough, I actually imagined something like these a while back for each AT, but no matter what, i could not get the idea of Scrapper's basically going exactly the same as Scout's, only replacing BLU heavy with Black Scorpion.

umpossible!

Well, on this point, Ironik, I think it kind of goes into base functionality needs/wants. That's another tricky one to balance since the Devs need to make bases functionality rewarding and appealing without making them feel like a player HAS to use it to be effective and avoid them being uninteresting and pointless. I think I might have gotten something decent in a post of mine in another thread a bit of ways back in the suggestions and ideas thing.

Feel free to skip this, mostly my personal ramblings.
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My big list of (hopefully low hanging) suggestions for base functionality and new functional items-

Changes to the existing:

- Control and Power usage of teleporters, medical, and workshop items by half.

- Power and Control buffs.
*To make SGs a bit more appealing without them feeling required, I thought it might be interesting if each tier of power and control granted a 1% buff to certain general stats of all SG members with the third tier at 3%. The Power Systems would grant bonuses to damage and resistance, Control would grant bonus to ToHit and Defense.

- Increase reclaimer re-spawn healing by 15% percent.

- Change the Auto doc to include selling break frees and awakens too.

- Have the Combat logs allow you to buy second tier Heals, end recovery, break frees, and awakes

- Change Raid Telepad to work as a mission door transporter, even to get directly to outdoor missions.

New functional items (and badges) I would like to see:

- New aesthetic styles for all existing functional items to fit themes of Modern-Tech Paramilitary, Martial Arts/dojo (probably with blacksmithing themes for workshop stuff), Modern Office and Home (This theme does not need to quite cover every item), Bio-Organic/Nature, Rikti, and allow for all existing medical reclaimers themes to be usable. (Vanguard, Ouroboros, Arachnos, Midnighter/Cimeroran, Hero, etc.)

- Large storage rack.
*Requires at least Craftsman badge to create tier two workbenches.
>Takes up twice the size of normal salvage racks, requires double upkeep, stores up to 50 salvage items.

- Mega-Telepad.
* Requires at least 4 zone Beacon Badges to be available for crafting at a second tier workbench.
> Requires double the power and control to set down, Double sized(?), allows for up to six zone beacon hookups.

- Ultra-Telepad
* Requires 8 zone beacon badges, crafts at tier 3 workbench. (This was kind of a balancing idea since heroes have so many more zones they might need to connect to and while it's possible for villains to get it, it just means you'd need a coop-zone beacon)
> Triple power and control requirements, automatically is hooked up to all zone beacons you presently have the badges for, no limit for how many zones it hooks up to.

Purely aesthetic items, styles, and changes I'd want to see:

-Too many to list.

Other things I'd like to see:

-Offline promotions/demotions

-SG name changing

-Prestige bonus for number of coalitions you've formed.

-Multiple SG membership, sorta personal coalitions.
* I think this could basically work with you having a Primary SG, and then secondary, third, etc. and however many the devs would want to cap it with. "honorary members"/"Liaisons" would be allowed to change their SG mode for one of their other groups to gather prestige and badge credit for them and leaders of the SGs would be able to decide just what privileges these folks have. They would not have access to SGs not Coalitioned to their primary SG.

Bery strong points, and I myself never exactly said that if this was a case of some old devs idea of style that I agreed with it... It definitely doesn't seem to be the case according to Sam's post.

In response to both you and Sam, sorry, my post was made at 5 AM without sleep.
Still, Sam's post is pretty cool an educational. As a random thought about AR animations, what about dropping prone for full auto?

And here we come to the painful dichotomy the Developers face in light of fixing the base editing system.
In the end, I think we can all agree is that it needs to be fixed, but how?

Make things too simple and you'll have people like Sam and even myself to a degree, quite happy, we'd finally be able to recreate those rooms from various instanced mission maps we've so sorely wanted and even customize them a bit.
On the other hand, bases like the OP won't be so impressive, indeed they'd become ordinary and every day.
For example, you'll notice just about EVERY SG BASE OUT THERE (built by those who made the effort small effort) have a bar or restaurant of some form, and quite a few have a pool, or pound, or body of water using the slow fields, which can make these things fairly unimpressive, because there's only so many ways you can throw down a bunch of desks, a few tables, chairs, and some cabinets to make a bar.

On the flip side, if you make it more complex and involved to make customization greater, you'd be able to create truly unique wonders that could potentially make Nova Praetoria look like Darwin's Landing during a Tarantula mistress bikini contest. (This would also make me happy)
But then you lock out people like Sam and so forth.
And worse, the copycat problem might only worsen when a bunch of people find something they really like, and we have the Television Programming and JRPG character/plot problem (all the same jar of Jarate in the end), I myself would likely end up guilty of this.

Finally, we have the third problem, any changes made to the base editing system itself risks invalidating all present bases and hours, days, weeks, months, even YEARS of hard work and flushing it all down a binary drain along with countless billions or trillions of prestige.

And so, the problem the Devs face is that they are caught between a rock, a hard place, and have something sharp and pointy hanging over their heads.
And this is all just on aesthetic levels, taking in functional aspects adds an angry mob to their left and a rabid bears to their right.

This is tragically impossible in the current engine to my knowledge, it was attempted when they gave katana its own animations, but it didn't work because ALL COMBAT STANCES IN THE GAME ARE LEFT SIDE FORWARD. I don't know why that's the case in the first place though...

This is, sadly, highly unlikely, as I believe BAB or Castle once commented that they don't like making two handed weapon animations and feel the reward is too small for such a large task.
Also, what is likely to further impede this from ever happening is that there's quite a few weapon customizations with the weapons you described that would only allow for one hand. I heard a second hand mention from someone that BAB's also stated you cannot have both Weapons Customization and Alternate Animations, but that's only hearsay.

This might be possible, but I think the sad fact is, I believe the animators try for the most visually interesting and diverse ways to make a power, and there's only so many different ways you can fire a rifle, and apparently, firing from the hip was ruled as cooler unless it was a formal sniper shot.

In short, I agree with everything you say AND would fight to the death your right to say it, but it all it means is just another voice echoing off to an empty hall or another martyr for a lost cause.
Sorry, I'm feeling poetic and ranty.

Personally, I must admit that Nemesis' soldiers are very much equipped like how I might expect an open field army (the style of army that would have been common in Nemesis' time) would operate if they had the technology, lots and lots of AoEs to shred apart the ranks of opposing soldiers... The stacking vengeance is indeed cheap, namely because it just works far too differently from the player version.

Which in of itself is a horrible Jarate-er, I mean I can practically farm malta on my /sr scrapper, but I've seen the pain countless others deal with because of them, and I've eaten it from them more than a few times on my not-/sr toons.
I mean, shouldn't this game be done with the concept of the "gimped build"? In the thread of mine I link in my Sig, Sam points out that one of the problems with the game is that sure we have diverse options of powersets, but in the end, one fire blaster will play no differently than another, and I don't think enemies that require you to "select your powers carefully" is conducive of that.

One can admit one thing, the PPD SWAT are as capable as you might realistically expect such an organization to be when faced with their odds.
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But also a long time ago I learned that reality =/= fun.
we play video games for entertainment, and while it make sense my lethal damage dealing toons will always deal Jarate poor damage against everything (comparatively, even things that are weak against lethal (5%-10%) compared to how weak things are to other damage types (20%-50%)) it is NOT fun, because it makes me realize that for damage, I'm always going to be punished for following a character concept (as well as there being no warning in the character creation screen that lethal powers are commonly highly resisted) compared to the guy that carefully selected his powers to where he can go the whole game without once fighting anything nearly as highly resistant to the the damage type he uses compared to mine.

Sorry, that really went into a rant.

But in summary, yes, I think NPC enemies sorely need their powers looked over.

Well, I think Atlas park would be a good place for a natural history or historical museum, but for if we got multiple museums and so forth, I've always though Skyway would definitely be the one to get an Art museum, maybe not one we can always go into, but it would be a great alternative thing for mayhems and safeguards.

And for some reason, if the resources could be spared, I'd love to see a Galaxy City Air and Space museum.

Perhaps the devs are tsundere for redside?

YES!!!

Also, they're right, it's clearly Multipurpose Beam Launcher.

Because -def is not exactly a promise with lethal weapons, it's literally to compensate for a melee blade's BLANDNESS in abilities.
Claws has -def in one attack, it also has three AoEs, is the fastest melee set, and two ranged attacks.
Dual Blades has it's combos with their varying effects, three AoE attacks, and something else I think.
Katana and broadsword... have a +def for one attack and a tier 9 with a higher crit than other sword attacks.

Archery wouldn't have it becase it's not just a lethal damage set. It also deals fire, smash, can stun, and has some good AoEs and a non-crashing nuke.
Assault rifle has a -def, deal fire damage, no crash (crappy) tier nine, can stun, and is AoE intensive, but the -def was probably because it lacks an aim or build up power and is, by default, hideous. But that's my opinion.
Dual Pistols has a -def, a hold/stun, multiple damage types and effects, no aim/build up, a -res, and a crashless nuke.

So, battleaxe makes up for it's lack of -def with being a simple, heavy hitter.
Though if it had to have a secondary effect, I'd say additional special damage over time (you know, from copious bleeding), -damage (since it's a little hard to raise your arms to attack with a HUGE gash in them), or -recharge (same logic as the last).
Also, if archery had to have a secondary, I'd say it would be -move speed since they've got those HUGE arrows embedded into their character model when they're hit with them.

On this note...

Lord Recluse: *In low, somewhat metallic, hissing voice* COOOOOOOOOOOOLE!

Any Kheld leader when dealing with a team of other khelds: Kheldians, TRANSFORM AND ROLLOUT!
(Seriously, is it just me or do the Nitcus/Kheldian thing seem oddly similar in a lot of ways to the Transformers thing?)

The Countess Crey: SCREW THE RULES, I HAVE MONEY!

Statesman: ... IN AMERICA!!!

Not in a rated 'T' for Teen game.

This is why I have always believed that if Dr. Aeon weren't so scatterbrained and genre blind, he'd obviously curbstomp Lord Recluse, Statesman, and anyone else.

I agree with this.
I'd say reduce the recharge buff to maybe 30% and then give the Stimulant patch another 15% rech buff instead of the +tohit.