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I take it you have never played a stalker.

Stalkobot is absolutly correct. You will live longer by resting in the middle of the battle than by using /electics entirely resistance based shields.

Stalker =/= brute

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well then you take it positivly wrong i have a level 50 stalker sir! 100% PvE and i dont rest in battle and rarely die /nin

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Lightning Clap on a Stalker would be awesome. Free hide yay

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That's a thought. To make Electic Armour slightly less gimp, They could have Hide replace Lightning Field, but also have Lightning Clap replace either Grounded, Conserve Power, or Power Sink.

Then AS replaces Lightning Clap in Electric Melee, all other powers are unchanged.

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I doubt that would even fix elec armour, it needs significant rebalancing for stalks because as a direct port and having no mitigation outside of resistence that caps at 75% it has the dubious distinction of being the one AT and set that survives more incoming damage by using rest in front of mobs as opposed to using sheilds. If Invuln was ported over it would still cap at 75% but have additional mitigation in invince and dull pain. Elec armour was the worst choice stalkers could get due to mitigation type and stalkers eeny weeny HPs, elec would have been a significantly better set for scrappers and tanks.

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There is nothing wrong with elec! even for stalkers and i have no idea why you would wanna replace grounded
as for both conserve energy and powersink... if your only /elec and not elec/elec then i can see why you wouldent want both but with elec attacks powersink to finish off enemies end it will be quiet safe in melee only problem is you will have to use 3 slots in every shield (which i generally do till i IO at 50) no heal even in tier 9 is abit of a wounder but not the end of the world brutes live without it

No no no but you see Lighting rod is a possibility.. especially if the set dont get any other AoEs (lets face it there are some) look at Psi its final move is UBER! due to its lack within the set any way you look at it i think elec will be fun secondary for doms... and earth/stone will be nasty but look out for earth/ice defence debuffs and slows (ooow momma!)

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Not really, unless there is nothing better to take, or are planing on focusing on human form (which would be an unusual choice for a WS).

Without reliable mez protection they simply get detoggled to often to be all that useful.

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yea dont do this... i did this back in I3 and yea i STILL have the scars this is why my WS has been sitting at level 25 since forever

dunno why tho but my PB is all human and fine he is in the loft hights of 35... (since about i5 >.&lt

Definetly Pre ED herding entire chambers in eden trail and getting blasters to nuke was fun and hard (DE were tougher in teh olden days)

ok i am late to this thread and aint gunna read all those pages of posts so i am just gunna give my oppinion

i could understand your problem if the stuff you said was true.. but it aint mate

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Villains got so many things which are really broken:
-->Grandville (endlvl zone which you are almost forced into specific travelpowers)
--> /EA which is totally broken compared to other sets
--> /Elec meele
--> broken MM pet AI
--> unrespeccable totally sucky Patron powers
--> not enough zones
--> Stalker AT, an At balanced around pvP in a game where PvP is totally broken needs a total revamp
but all you see is more and more hero buffs.


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i dont really get how you can be almost forced.. your either forced or you aint.. and my 50s villain side have 3 different travel powers... fly, TP, SS. how was i forced to take them?

I am SOOO sick of hearing ppl say EA is broken.. HOW IS IT BROKEN? my EA/SS brute can easily wade in to a invince 5 man mission and kill all in sight you obviously dont know how to choose powers and slot them (the stealth REALLY does help take it!)
dunno whats wrong with elec melee (except the bug with the move that bounces of players)
i understand your PoV on Patron powers but i think they are fine... the reason they are like they are is because villain ATs are so much more powerful than hero ATs. you can solo with ANY villain at in any power combination but some hero AT/power combos simply are unsoloable

with 1 level 50 MM and 1 level 40 (ish) MM i know the problems with pet AI... its not that big a deal (worst prob is bruiser standing lobbing rocks or DoT making the pets run 15 miles away)
Stalker... this is another moan i am sick of i dont PvP with my stalker (it has fly and no invis pools at all).. i have no problem with servivability... i done MoRSF easily (well for what it is)

as for giving doms elec attacks... this is good! the ability to hold and drain your enemies whilst simutaneously draining its end is Uber....

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Well lets see
Empathy + powerboosted Thermal buffs+ poerboosted Cold buffs and debuffs which have higher baserate than the corr version and are unresisted in PvP ??????????????
Enough said



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this is all well and good but what about 1 vs 1 ? that defender would be <expletive>

and now for the other side of the arguement
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No AT is unbeatable in pvp it all comes down to how good you are at pvp.

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tho in general terms the meaning of this is correct... i think the way you word this is void... Altho your char obviously belongs to an AT (duh) you dont play the whole range of choices in your AT so its true any AT can beat any AT but not true that any powerset can beat any powerset

and some powersets cann obviously beat alot more powersets than others

i am not the biggest fan of PvP but i simply dont see this powerset prolif being the end of PvP... infact seeing doms getting a good PvP set (elec) and couple of ATs getting storm ... there will be more Vills PvPing with a wider range
(tho there will be dark dark tanks )

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fun lol...fun for you perhaps... in any case i many MANY years ago vowed i'd never fight clanbois in any game again still going strong

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Ok 'boi'. Go back to barbie online then.

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Back? i never left! i always see you jumping around playing kiss chase there! ow wait... thats this game

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Is there seriously no PvP'ers out there who fancy gathering a few friends or recruiting some other PvP'ers to have some fun matches with us?

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fun lol...fun for you perhaps... in any case i many MANY years ago vowed i'd never fight clanbois in any game again still going strong

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its -acc mate
so too is darkest night which is also -dmg

and i think your a bit confuse afaik -acc and -tohit are the same thing ... however -acc and -perception are different

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-acc and -tohit are not the same thing, just like +acc and +tohit are not the same thing. Perception is something else altogether.

For a Dark/Dark, both your primary and secondary will be debuffing ToHit. In the case of Darkest Night it's 18.75% unenhanced as listed here.

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ok i stand corrected but Mids still says its -acc ...

its -acc mate
so too is darkest night which is also -dmg

and i think your a bit confuse afaik -acc and -tohit are the same thing ... however -acc and -perception are different

Personally i dont see the point in making a 50 build without using IO sets especially when high profile players like yourself will obviously slotting them out for purples and other sets when you hit...

imo your choice is to take your powers as you need until level 50 or build your char to your final build (ie getting slots when you need um and such)

but seems thats the build you put down i'll comment on this build...

assult for a defender altho adds the most does nothing in this set... take a few sets that do +dam and will much improve it

hasten in this set is not particually needed most powers natually charge before they run out or are toggles this will only help alot with lightning storm,o2 boost,freezing rain, blackstar and life drain. slot could be alot better used elswhere like taking dark pit so you can stun bosses (with staking from thunderclap)

indervidual slotting ness

only need 2 heals in o2 boost if you put generic IOs
pointless having darkblast if you dont slot it... i know your forced to use it but atleast put it to some use
snowstorm does not need 3 end redux especially on teams
this is tottally on oppinion and everyone will be one other the other but steamy mist is meant for resist so i would put it soloey on resist and save the other slots
freezing raind def dont need 2 end reds
2 end reds on hurricane imo
atleast 1 immob in ten tents will make it better at keeping enemies grouped (untill you want storm to throw them around atleast)
i would prefer to have perma lightning cloud so recharge would def be in order
would prefer to have 2 accs and 2 heals and 2 recharges in life drain increase the chance of heal even if it does reduce the amount.. and if you PBU before life drain its really good anyway plus you get more acc
2 accs in total focus i would get conserv energy last as it needs less slots

but this all my oppinion it might not be your taste

get rid of assault and hasten (in this current build i dont see the logic) and get tornado and dark pit

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If you like brutes then you'd propably feel more at home with scrappers as opposed to tankers..

[/ QUOTE ]Agree, although this only applies to people who played brutes as brutes, not those who played brutes as tanks (especially the /stone ones).

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/agree
but i disagree on the taunt at level 10, imo you should take it and get the rest of your shields ASAP even if it means missing stamina untill level 24 (taunt takes no endurance to use) as long as you hold aggro you are doing your job (and you stay alive) ice/stone tank has CE icicles and taunt and keeps all aggro team mates hardly ever get hit which is main priority tanks can be built for damage but i would recomend waiting til 33+ to start slotting attacks (prob 34 seems you'll need 33 to slot teir 9 power)

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We're always busy in missions - use a global channel like Arena or Help to find us

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your telling ppl to spam Arena???

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Hmmm gohan you are wrong in this scenario tho.In a 10 min fight in arena a scrapper versus a troller especially a regen is pretty much toasted at some point since burning bf's is really easy with trollers especially illusion.

The only case the controller would need BF's imho is versus MA or maybe spines in case he has no CJ or a fear pool or a DM scrapper.The scrapper is at a disadvantage against a controller most times.Even with full tray of bf's

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i fought a ss/ea brute the other day in warburg with my ill/kin
my troller is fully slotted with HOs (except super invis which has a set)
i have hasten siphon speed and never managed to hold the brute once a regen with bfs and his mez protection how many holds stacked would you need?

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4 holds.
Oh and Scrappers != Brutes.

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-.- i know its 4 holds but then explain why he wernt held!! surly hasten siphon and the recharges in blind could stack 4 holds (got acc/mez HOs)

Edit; anyone on tonight with a 50 scrapper give me a tell and i'll let u pwn me in arena @gohan661 or @Only

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My SG is literally a role play thing for my alts and I have no other members. I recko, when I get it done i will have a working base, kitted out with crafting, transport, medical and storage facilities all on the basic plot.

At that point I may even invite some other players on board?

he he he

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i done this you can quiet easily run a base with the secure transporter room (the one that fits 4 transporters in) and the rest of the base requirements without ever leaving smallest plot
my sg is filled with 2 accounts of MEEEE

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Hmmm gohan you are wrong in this scenario tho.In a 10 min fight in arena a scrapper versus a troller especially a regen is pretty much toasted at some point since burning bf's is really easy with trollers especially illusion.

The only case the controller would need BF's imho is versus MA or maybe spines in case he has no CJ or a fear pool or a DM scrapper.The scrapper is at a disadvantage against a controller most times.Even with full tray of bf's

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i fought a ss/ea brute the other day in warburg with my ill/kin
my troller is fully slotted with HOs (except super invis which has a set)
i have hasten siphon speed and never managed to hold the brute once a regen with bfs and his mez protection how many holds stacked would you need?

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Insps imo are ok in zonal PvP but i personally think they are unbalanced in 1 vs 1 arena that said i in now way expect you not to pop an insp if i hold you bit silly really and if a level 50 scrapper cant take a MM theres summat wrong anyway

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Oh my, please tell me that was a joke post

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i dont know what you mean by this. and i dont know why globey keeps quoting and saying nothing. but let me clarify if you think i was complaining about PvP insps i was NOT

i'll explain using a scenario

a regen scrapper (infact any scrapper) vs an ill/kin troller (i have an ill/kin but never fought a regen in arena this has NOT happened to me)

a regen scrapper with break frees vs an illusion troller will simply never be held never have much damage taken off him (except when decoys are out but with instant healing its not gunna kill him) this makes the scrapper pretty much invincible and any primary for scrappers can take out the troller

illusion troller will need to take bfs too but will have to pop alot more. but all the red inps under the sun would not increase damage enough to take out said scrapper the only thing the troller can do is stay alive easily done i admit (as long as bfs dont run out)

this is what i mean by balanced bfs pretty much render trollers primary usless (untill they have ran out of BFs) and with no damage in troller secondary i think trollers come off bad... (not saying rad or bubbles wouldent change things alot but not everyone PvPs with the bestest best AT/powersets

Insps imo are ok in zonal PvP but i personally think they are unbalanced in 1 vs 1 arena that said i in now way expect you not to pop an insp if i hold you bit silly really and if a level 50 scrapper cant take a MM theres summat wrong anyway

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Dominate has a 4 sec greater hold duration and a 1 second recharge less than Blind. Possibly making damage more affordable even for you, but Blind isn't the same as Dominate.

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yea dominate does not have sleep too thus rendering dispersion field useless amoung other things.

mothers love i'ma coming for YOOOO

thanks but... dark blasphemy i dont see how you expect me to kill using that build ¬.¬ i know this because that is pretty much the build i have now i just cant kill ppl in warburg

shannon this char is already level 50 and retired so i wanted to do summat with him.... i had the choice between this char my invun/mace tank (no) and my ninja/dark miasma MM. my MM has no cash and my troller has ....enough :P


Edit; or should i just give up on this char being PvP and wait for either my EM/nin stalker or SS/EA brute to hit 50 (47/27 respectivly)

i know most ppl think i need ss and sj but i just dont know where i would fit them in. i am aware too that alot of numbers there pass the ED diminishing line but all constructive critisizim is welcomed

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.21
http://www.honourableunited.org.uk/mhd.php

Only: Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Illusion Control
Secondary Power Set: Kinetics
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Teleportation
Ancillary Pool: Primal Forces Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Blind <ul type="square">[*] (A) Essence of Curare - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 39[*] (3) Essence of Curare - Endurance/Hold: Level 39[*] (7) Essence of Curare - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 39[*] (7) Essence of Curare - Hold/Range: Level 39[*] (29) Essence of Curare - Accuracy/Hold: Level 39[*] (29) Essence of Curare - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge: Level 39[/list]Level 1: Transfusion <ul type="square">[*] (A) Healing IO: Level 40[*] (3) Healing IO: Level 40[*] (17) Healing IO: Level 40[*] (23) Accuracy IO: Level 40[*] (23) Accuracy IO: Level 40[*] (34) Accuracy IO: Level 40[/list]Level 2: Spectral Wounds <ul type="square">[*] (A) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage: Level 39[*] (5) Decimation - Damage/Endurance: Level 39[*] (37) Decimation - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 39[*] (39) Decimation - Damage/Recharge: Level 39[*] (39) Decimation - Chance of Build Up: Level 39[*] (39) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 39[/list]Level 4: Deceive <ul type="square">[*] (A) Malaise's Illusions - Endurance/Confused: Level 40[*] (5) Malaise's Illusions - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 40[*] (25) Malaise's Illusions - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 39[*] (25) Malaise's Illusions - Confused/Range: Level 39[*] (40) Malaise's Illusions - Chance of Damage(Psionic): Level 39[*] (48) Malaise's Illusions - Accuracy/Confused/Recharge: Level 40[/list]Level 6: Swift <ul type="square">[*] (A) Run Speed IO: Level 40[/list]Level 8: Superior Invisibility <ul type="square">[*] (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance: Level 39[*] (9) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge: Level 39[*] (9) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge: Level 39[*] (11) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 39[*] (46) Red Fortune - Endurance: Level 39[*] (48) Red Fortune - Defense: Level 39[/list]Level 10: Siphon Speed <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO: Level 40[*] (11) Accuracy IO: Level 40[*] (17) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 40[/list]Level 12: Flash <ul type="square">[*] (A) HamiO:Endoplasm Exposure[*] (13) HamiO:Endoplasm Exposure[*] (13) HamiO:Endoplasm Exposure[/list]Level 14: Health <ul type="square">[*] (A) Healing IO: Level 40[*] (15) Healing IO: Level 40[*] (15) Healing IO: Level 40[/list]Level 16: Increase Density <ul type="square">[*] (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 40[/list]Level 18: Phantom Army <ul type="square">[*] (A) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure[*] (19) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 40[*] (19) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 40[*] (40) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 40[*] (40) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure[*] (43) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure[/list]Level 20: Stamina <ul type="square">[*] (A) Endurance Modification IO: Level 40[*] (21) Endurance Modification IO: Level 40[*] (21) Endurance Modification IO: Level 40[/list]Level 22: Speed Boost <ul type="square">[*] (A) Endurance Modification IO: Level 40[/list]Level 24: Assault <ul type="square">[*] (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 40[/list]Level 26: Spectral Terror <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO: Level 40[*] (27) Accuracy IO: Level 40[*] (27) Fear Duration IO: Level 40[*] (50) Fear Duration IO: Level 40[*] (50) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 40[/list]Level 28: Inertial Reduction <ul type="square">[*] (A) Jumping IO: Level 40[/list]Level 30: Tactics <ul type="square">[*] (A) To Hit Buff IO: Level 40[*] (31) To Hit Buff IO: Level 40[*] (31) To Hit Buff IO: Level 40[*] (31) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 40[/list]Level 32: Phantasm <ul type="square">[*] (A) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure[*] (33) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure[*] (33) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure[*] (33) HamiO:Centriole Exposure[*] (34) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 40[*] (34) Range IO: Level 40[/list]Level 35: Transference <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO: Level 40[*] (36) Accuracy IO: Level 40[*] (36) Accuracy IO: Level 40[*] (36) Endurance Modification IO: Level 40[*] (37) Endurance Modification IO: Level 40[*] (37) Endurance Modification IO: Level 40[/list]Level 38: Fulcrum Shift <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO: Level 40[/list]Level 41: Power Blast <ul type="square">[*] (A) Devastation - Chance of Hold: Level 39[*] (42) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage: Level 39[*] (42) Devastation - Damage/Endurance: Level 39[*] (42) Devastation - Damage/Recharge: Level 39[*] (43) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 39[*] (43) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 39[/list]Level 44: Temp Invulnerability <ul type="square">[*] (A) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection: Level 30[*] (45) Impervious Skin - Status Resistance: Level 30[*] (45) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance: Level 39[*] (45) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance: Level 39[*] (46) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 39[*] (46) HamiO:Ribosome Exposure[/list]Level 47: Power Boost <ul type="square">[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 40[*] (48) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 40[/list]Level 49: Teleport Foe <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO: Level 40[*] (50) Interrupt Reduction IO: Level 40[/list]------------
Level 1: Brawl <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO: Level 40[/list]Level 1: Sprint <ul type="square">[*] (A) Run Speed IO: Level 40[/list]Level 2: Rest <ul type="square">[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 40[/list]Level 1: Containment
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[u]Set Bonus Totals:[u]<ul type="square">[*]+7.5% DamageBuff[*]+3.75% Defense(Psionic)[*]+7.5% Defense(Ranged)[*]+2.25% Max Endurance[*]+2.5% Enhancement(Confused)[*]+1.5% Enhancement(Held)[*]+17.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[*]+34.3 (3.38%) HitPoints[*]+Knockback (Mag -4)[*]+MezResist(Confused) (Mag 29.2%)[*]+MezResist(Held) (Mag 30.8%)[*]+MezResist(Immobilize) (Mag 32.5%)[*]+MezResist(Sleep) (Mag 29.7%)[*]+MezResist(Stun) (Mag 29.2%)[*]+MezResist(Terrorized) (Mag 29.2%)[*]+2.5% Recovery[*]+12% Regeneration[*]+1.26% Resistance(Fire)[*]+1.26% Resistance(Cold)[*]+1.58% Resistance(Toxic)[*]+4.58% Resistance(Psionic)[/list]------------
[u]Set Bonuses:[u]
[u]Essence of Curare[u]
(Blind)<ul type="square">[*] +MezResist(Terrorized) (Mag 1.65%)[*] +MezResist(Confused) (Mag 1.65%)[*] +MezResist(Stun) (Mag 1.65%)[*] +1.5% Enhancement(Held)[*] +1.88% Defense(Ranged)[/list][u]Decimation[u]
(Spectral Wounds)<ul type="square">[*] +MezResist(Immobilize) (Mag 2.75%)[*] +11.4 (1.13%) HitPoints[*] +2.25% Max Max Endurance[*] +6.25% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[*] +1.575% Res(Toxic, Psi)[/list][u]Malaise's Illusions[u]
(Deceive)<ul type="square">[*] +2.5% Recovery[*] +2.5% Enhancement(Confused)[*] +2.5% DamageBuff[*] +6.25% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[*] +3.13% Defense(Ranged)[/list][u]Red Fortune[u]
(Superior Invisibility)<ul type="square">[*] +MezResist(Immobilize) (Mag 2.2%)[*] +1.26% Res(Fire, Cold)[*] +2% DamageBuff[*] +5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[*] +2.5% Defense(Ranged)[/list][u]Devastation[u]
(Power Blast)<ul type="square">[*] +12% Regeneration[*] +22.9 (2.25%) HitPoints[*] +3% DamageBuff[*] +MezResist(Held) (Mag 3.3%)[*] +3.75% Defense(Psionic)[/list][u]Steadfast Protection[u]
(Temp Invulnerability)<ul type="square">[*] +Knockback (Mag -4)[/list][u]Impervious Skin[u]
(Temp Invulnerability)<ul type="square">[*] +MezResist(Confused) (Mag 7.5%), +MezResist(Held) (Mag 7.5%), +MezResist(Immobilize) (Mag 7.5%), +MezResist(Sleep) (Mag 7.5%), +MezResist(Stun) (Mag 7.5%), +MezResist(Terrorized) (Mag 7.5%)[/list][u]Aegis[u]
(Temp Invulnerability)<ul type="square">[*] +3% Resistance(Psionic), +MezResist(Confused) (Mag 20%), +MezResist(Held) (Mag 20%), +MezResist(Immobilize) (Mag 20%), +MezResist(Sleep) (Mag 20%), +MezResist(Stun) (Mag 20%), +MezResist(Terrorized) (Mag 20%)[/list][u]Titanium Coating[u]
(Temp Invulnerability)<ul type="square">[*] +MezResist(Sleep) (Mag 2.2%)[/list]


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feel free to rip it apart its my first build for this char and i no not much about building trollers for PvP

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i agree in the entirety if everything yousuggested happened there (imo) would be alot more PvP

omg you should write a book or summat your very well spoken:P your completly right i accept it nice guide