Can this be really obtained?


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i was looking around a few site of base info for my VG is about to get 10m prestige and i though it need an update, so i was looking around to see what next size plot i could get.

Anyways when i was looking at it i saw Massive Secure Complex, i know it out of my reach and alot of other SG/VG for it cost 137,812,500. i know that this amount can be reached, if you played 24/7 maybe for 5 years but the upkeep i find is a killer. 5 million prestige, could an SG/VG bring in the amount needed to be basicly wasted every 4 weeks.

the way im looking at it at the moment in 12 weeks 20 million prestige had gone down the drain and what improvement could you do to the base with that hugh prestige drain, i know what i could do with that 20 million prestige for my base

Here the website i got my base info on


 

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When you get to anywhere near that size of plot you will have also filled it with everything possible i should think, so you got nothing to spend prestige on except rent.

And yes i would say it would be obtainable in the quite near future by a few US villain/super groups, the top 2 groups on union and defiant have earned about 60 million prestige now, so the US groups will have earned considerably more i would have thought.

I aint gonna re activate my US account just to check for ya though


 

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you could just manage to maintain a base that size going by some of the larger sgs on the us side however not a clue if any of them actuly have

but with some fidling and mucking about with dark lords base over the past year or so i managed to come up with a design that fits into the second secure plot nicely giving more than enuff room for everything you need and a few extra bits just because you can and thats only 200k a time for the rent which is very very easy to get at one point i was earning that myself for the sg np


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in order to run a base with that kind of prestige drain, would require some stern management. Certain SG/VG's run a 3 day policy believe it or not, where if you havent logged on for 3 days you get kicked. That mentailty is a bit hard to understand from my perspective as i run my SG as a collective of friends who enjoy playing together rather then some kind of race to the top. Maybe its becasuse i get more pleasure out of playing the game and being good at the toons i play, then being able to say "My SG PWNS"

Kicking ppl for not logging on due to RL situations and all that is in contradictio to the whole purpose of MMO's in my humble opinion. What kind of community can you form with ppl when you remove them from your group for not being about for a week?

The community is one of the major selling points of CoX, as no other MMO has a community quite like it. Maybe this is something the Devs have looked at Maybe not. But in all honesty, if you manage to raise the 138 million prestige required, the 5 million a month base rent isnt giong to be much of a problem anyway.

Its like the saying goes, "Why by a porsche when you cant afford the petrol?"


 

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in order to run a base with that kind of prestige drain, would require some stern management. Certain SG/VG's run a 3 day policy believe it or not, where if you havent logged on for 3 days you get kicked. That mentailty is a bit hard to understand from my perspective as i run my SG as a collective of friends who enjoy playing together rather then some kind of race to the top. Maybe its becasuse i get more pleasure out of playing the game and being good at the toons i play, then being able to say "My SG PWNS"

Kicking ppl for not logging on due to RL situations and all that is in contradictio to the whole purpose of MMO's in my humble opinion. What kind of community can you form with ppl when you remove them from your group for not being about for a week?

The community is one of the major selling points of CoX, as no other MMO has a community quite like it. Maybe this is something the Devs have looked at Maybe not. But in all honesty, if you manage to raise the 138 million prestige required, the 5 million a month base rent isnt giong to be much of a problem anyway.

Its like the saying goes, "Why by a porsche when you cant afford the petrol?"

[/ QUOTE ]but if this was a pvp base and had the item of power all the stuff that was demolish during the raid be lost. i can't see how they could keep the upkeep and repair the base at the same time


 

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true, But IMO any sensible soul wouldnt set up theier base for Raids until they had sufficient prestige to be able to cover the cost of repairs, To take part in raids without a decent reserve to take care of the matter would jsut be daft really


 

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but if this was a pvp base and had the item of power all the stuff that was demolish during the raid be lost. i can't see how they could keep the upkeep and repair the base at the same time

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Dont bother mentioning that since we arent gonna get IOP raids, ever.


 

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but if this was a pvp base and had the item of power all the stuff that was demolish during the raid be lost. i can't see how they could keep the upkeep and repair the base at the same time

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Dont bother mentioning that since we arent gonna get IOP raids, ever.

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I find your lack of faith disturbing


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but if this was a pvp base and had the item of power all the stuff that was demolish during the raid be lost. i can't see how they could keep the upkeep and repair the base at the same time

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Dont bother mentioning that since we arent gonna get IOP raids, ever.

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I do wonder when the rest of the player base will wake up to the "OMG where did my WHOLE life go? " and "You say these are my children?" task that is plugging for a maximum compound.


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Kicking people who haven't logged in for three days? Thats insane. Don't these people work or have any sort of life? All you need is to go on a week or a fortnights holiday and suddenly you have no SG. I'm an altoholic and sometimes don't play a particular toon for weeks. I get bored with one, so swap to another for a while. Bored with heroes? I pop to villains. I think I'd garrotte someone for kicking me because I hadn't logged on for a few days.


 

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Well the people in the supergroup would all know about that rule. Im sure if they say I am on holiday or whatever it be ok but the onus is on the player. They know the rules and if they want to join the sg they know the likely consequences for not being on. To be honest it sounds fair if you are a supergroup of that size as you can't afford to have no one contributing if you are trying to bring home that level of bacon. You would have to be very organised and strict.


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this is a worning to all members of evil it looks like max is getting ideas here, lol

after spending a few month back over on the us servers there is a large number of groups who only same to be after the prestige and not alot more above that.

personaly i found it a bit of a shock after spending so long over here with dark lords and our coalitions who all of us wer about playing the game and making it a fun experiacne for our members but it wasnt till i actuly thought about it for mre than five seconds that i relised this is actuly nothing new to the world of mmos its just new to some o f us here on the eu cox comunity

which in my opinion shows just how much of a real comunity there is over here


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which in my opinion shows just how much of a real comunity there is over here


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Yes i think even the most ruthless SG/VG's here draw a line at some of the American tactics to increase prestige earnings.


 

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which in my opinion shows just how much of a real comunity there is over here


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Yes i think even the most ruthless SG/VG's here draw a line at some of the American tactics to increase prestige earnings.

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Its not about people there, its about prosperity.


He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.

 

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My SG is literally a role play thing for my alts and I have no other members. I recko, when I get it done i will have a working base, kitted out with crafting, transport, medical and storage facilities all on the basic plot.

At that point I may even invite some other players on board?

he he he


 

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which in my opinion shows just how much of a real comunity there is over here


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Yes i think even the most ruthless SG/VG's here draw a line at some of the American tactics to increase prestige earnings.

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Its not about people there, its about prosperity.

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well i hope to make a small dent in that way of thinking as ive been getting to know a few more ive desided to creat US versions of my hero and villain sg using the same way of thinking that worked well for us here lets just wait and see if it actuly works over there or not


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well i hope to make a small dent in that way of thinking as ive been getting to know a few more ive desided to creat US versions of my hero and villain sg using the same way of thinking that worked well for us here lets just wait and see if it actuly works over there or not


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Yea your gonna do well there same as you did here, cos your gonna be leading it your way.

Difference is you will have a few more people to do it with.


 

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Well the people in the supergroup would all know about that rule. Im sure if they say I am on holiday or whatever it be ok but the onus is on the player. They know the rules and if they want to join the sg they know the likely consequences for not being on. To be honest it sounds fair if you are a supergroup of that size as you can't afford to have no one contributing if you are trying to bring home that level of bacon. You would have to be very organised and strict.

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But if you keep kicking people who is going to be brining in prestige to the SG?


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Well the people in the supergroup would all know about that rule. Im sure if they say I am on holiday or whatever it be ok but the onus is on the player. They know the rules and if they want to join the sg they know the likely consequences for not being on. To be honest it sounds fair if you are a supergroup of that size as you can't afford to have no one contributing if you are trying to bring home that level of bacon. You would have to be very organised and strict.

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But if you keep kicking people who is going to be brining in prestige to the SG?

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its prity much a cycle of kick and recrute so basicly as you kick and empty a space you have a couple of people doted across paragon or the islands giving out recruting broadcasts to fill the freshly emptyed slots

basicly what there after is as meny people going tru the ranks as possible who are working the lower lvls from 1 to 25 its fast xp so fast prestige and good earning


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My SG is literally a role play thing for my alts and I have no other members. I recko, when I get it done i will have a working base, kitted out with crafting, transport, medical and storage facilities all on the basic plot.

At that point I may even invite some other players on board?

he he he

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A bit of a newbie question, but how do you make a single-person supergroup? Can you invite offline characters?


 

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You'd have to get one other person to join for a few minutes, so they could invite all your avatars - or if you have two accounts and two computers, then you can invite yourself


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And in my case it was a very helpful Forumite who spared the time to join the group and invite & Promote my alts.

Incidentally, going to the post made by Scotland's Bru about thos SGs kicking people then doing an immediate recruitment, that sounds to me like a horrible way to run a Super Group.

They obviously don't give a hoot about the type of person they are recruiting for a start. No getting to know the person to see if they are fun to team with or anything like that.

Also, it can't be that welcoming to be told, "Hi welcome to the group now don't stand here talking to me, get out there and earn us some prestige! By the way if you don't log on at least once every three days your outta here ya loser!!!!"

Quite frankly that sounds to me like the senior members of the SG are simply "pimping" any mug they can get to join for prestige just to keep their own spangly base running.

I wonder how many of the leaders of those SGs actually log on themselves every three days and if not do THEY get kicked? Probably not. I also wonder, even if they do log on, how much effort they make to earn some of that prestige themselves. Maybe they are too busy going out trying to trap new slaves er I mean "recruit new members" into joining the group.


 

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Some people will see that as a small price to pay to belonging to one of the top supergroups with the best base. Really it all comes down to player mentality, not everyone has the same goals and wishlists. I don't know what it is like over there but they may get to take advantage of having the ultimate base with regular base raids or get a kick out of competing with rival sgs (kind of a status thing).

I would also imagine that the leaders would be getting a fair whack of prestige themselves (and be doing more for the sg then you would probably give them credit for). I would assume that they hold regular power lving sessions too in which case earning a [censored] load of prestige and xp benefiting both the player and the supergroup so its not all one way traffic i.e. the supergroup.


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Incidentally, going to the post made by Scotland's Bru about thos SGs kicking people then doing an immediate recruitment, that sounds to me like a horrible way to run a Super Group.

They obviously don't give a hoot about the type of person they are recruiting for a start. No getting to know the person to see if they are fun to team with or anything like that.

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In a lot of cases the SG/VG would have a waiting list of people, or an alt of a member waiting to take up any spaces made from inactivity, rather than using the broadcast recruitment method.

And then in turn when or if the inactive member becomes active again, a space will be made for them. Its just a cycle used to keep earning, its not all malice and exploitation.

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Also, it can't be that welcoming to be told, "Hi welcome to the group now don't stand here talking to me, get out there and earn us some prestige! By the way if you don't log on at least once every three days your outta here ya loser!!!!"

Quite frankly that sounds to me like the senior members of the SG are simply "pimping" any mug they can get to join for prestige just to keep their own spangly base running.

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Players get the rules explained to them when they join, its up to them if they want to go ahead or not isnt it.

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I wonder how many of the leaders of those SGs actually log on themselves every three days and if not do THEY get kicked? Probably not. I also wonder, even if they do log on, how much effort they make to earn some of that prestige themselves.

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They probably do log on most days, and have more than likely earned more prestige than anyone.

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Maybe they are too busy going out trying to trap new slaves er I mean "recruit new members" into joining the group

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Again, trapping and recruiting are two vastly different things, and if anyone did ever have the feeling they were being conned or used, its very easy to leave isnt it.

None of that lot is to say your wrong Lady, but its not as easy as it might look keeping a SG/VG active, you do need to have a few rules and methods to stick to.