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The US version may be able to achieve the biggest plot atm, but it will be a while before anyone here will achieve it I guess.
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As it stands there is nothing really beneficial in having it - Cathedral of Pain was taken down yonks ago and its not as if they are adding new bits and bobs to collect.
Once you get to a certain size there really isn't to much to get so in my opinion its just not worth the effort. Having a massive plot size doesnt bring happiness ... just massive rent 
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What? Material possesions don't bring happiness? 
Yeah, the rent is extreme for something that is basically superficial, as a plot of this size isn't needed it would just be to have a bigger base that other ppl. After all what Superhero needs a base that size? It's too hard to hide a base that size behind a few trees
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just massive rent
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Ours is 420k a time now.
Londoner,
Fair counter there.
I guess for some people the idea of being with the big hitters in one of the "premier" SGs may well be a big incentive even if it ain't my cup of tea.
Again, if you like getting into all the business of base raids that would also be a big draw though why you would want to "risk" such damage to your base when upkeep for it is already massive strikes me as a bit odd. But again each to their own.
Finally, as you point out, its up to recruits if they stay or if they go once they understand the rules. They ain't exactly tied to a ong term contract. A case I guess of "you take your choice THEN pay your money (or prestige anyway).
Still, the cynic in me points out that if you do join the group, stick around for 2 weeks (logging in at least 5 times in that period) then decide you don't like it and quit, the SG are still the ones that benefit coz the prestige stays put. Also they don't particularly care about "why" they lost a member since they have replacements queuing up to take the slot.
I realise that running an active SG takes a lot of hard work to keep it "alive" but that methodology still strikes me as being very mercenary. Not wrong, just mercenary.
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Still, the cynic in me points out that if you do join the group, stick around for 2 weeks (logging in at least 5 times in that period) then decide you don't like it and quit, the SG are still the ones that benefit coz the prestige stays put. Also they don't particularly care about "why" they lost a member since they have replacements queuing up to take the slot.
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Ok thats a fair point too.
However in the case of our VG they will have had the use of the teleporters, med bay, insp dispensers, free insps from base storage and free enhancements from base storage.
So it wouldnt have been all one way traffic.
Also they will if over lvl 34 have had access to an inf gift to get any enhancements they might need.
Obviously we aint dishing out hundreds of millions for io sets or cossie changes.
But if someones stuck for a few million they will get it.
Lastly, and i can only speak for us here and not all SG/VG's, i do try to get to the bottom of anyones reason for leaving and sort it out if possible.
from what i leanred as bos of dark lords and working and chating with alot of the top 20 sgs over here the way londoner runs the sg with a lare omount of benifits for members to encourage tem to earn the rent is prity much the way things work with most if not all of th top 20 sgs mo own as well
the simple fact is a good sg will atract players for a number of reasons some because of there position in the top 100 some because there all about pvp rp or simpley playing the game but ive found the ones that do realy well are the ones that look after its members as well as themembers look after the group no matter what the kick policy is. the main difference between us here in the eu and over there in the us is when most of the groups over here to begin to get to the big sg status they do become more of a close nit comunity with there members and there coalitions which is no bad thing realy is it
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Ours is 420k a time now.
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Ours used to be over double that before the rent changes. My only/little consolation was the Violators had to pay more then that (think there's was roughly 1 mil back in the hey day).
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Villains
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LF SG! Arc ID# 193083
Londoner,
Re the point about picking up free insps and enhancements from te SG Storage. You could have pointed out how much INF those people probably saved doing that, which means they likely came of better in the deal even if they DID leave and lose prestige. So,definite point to you there.
As for the INF gift ar later levels to help em round out their character. There really is nothing one can say in argument about that. One could in fact say its a fair balance for the intense log on schedule to earn the prestige. Game set and match to the man with the Union Flag.
Hat's off to you dude
Now, where do I sign up?
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Ours is 420k a time now.
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Ours used to be over double that before the rent changes. My only/little consolation was the Violators had to pay more then that (think there's was roughly 1 mil back in the hey day).
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by the time death left and i took over control of the vios the rent was at 1.4 mil a time so thank god for the rent change i say lol
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Hat's off to you dude
Now, where do I sign up?
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Thats a very nice thing to say, thank you.
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by the time death left and i took over control of the vios the rent was at 1.4 mil a time so thank god for the rent change i say lol
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Yea that halved our rent pretty much too
ye for the base death had it droped the rent from 1.4mil to 200k so not to much of a change thre at all was there
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On the US "extreme" SG bit:
Note that kind of SG dont have ONE SG but 2 or maybe even 3 with one "main" one where you keep your one most played toon, if you dont log in on 3 days you get kicked to the alt SG, not into oblivion you still remain in the SG-community. Also i would guess they have their different SG's coalition so all can still use base and do most, if not all, their chatting in a global chat channel rather than in SG chat.
So dont go yelling "OMG evil heartless Americans!!" unless you know how they have their SG set up. It is great fun being in a competitive SG that runs atleast one event every night.
*self promotion*
The Dirty Handprints have our 1st year aniversy coming up the 26th or so and we have in under a year netted over 45 mil and i belive we have now passed inactive Violators and made 3rd on Union. That comes in at ~3.75 mil/month and i assume first months where slower than that because we net more than that in recent months. And we allow 2 toons in SG and have an Alt SG, and 15 days inactive time unless leaders have been varned about holiday or something like that. Of course all this is thanks to our Great Leader Von, and our SG is a warm happy and wery active place :P
Point is, if it could happen here with this smaller playerbase i see no real problem doing the same on US with a bit tighter rules and netting in around 5-7 mil each month.
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My SG is literally a role play thing for my alts and I have no other members. I recko, when I get it done i will have a working base, kitted out with crafting, transport, medical and storage facilities all on the basic plot.
At that point I may even invite some other players on board?
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i done this you can quiet easily run a base with the secure transporter room (the one that fits 4 transporters in) and the rest of the base requirements without ever leaving smallest plot
my sg is filled with 2 accounts of MEEEE
I know from running a SG it can be hard to keep a SG active & earning prestige. Our base is fully operational, but I always see new items that I want to add
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We have a policy of kicking it inactive for 40+ days. This was the policy implemented by the SG creators & I've never changed it even though they have since left the game (they do return every so often to check up on me
Even when ppl are inactive for 40+ day I find it hard to kick them, as most members are good friends or their alts.
We never broadcast recruiting as we are after fun friendly ppl to join and only offer membership to ppl we teamed with & are not in a SG.
You can probably have a full base with all tp locations and limited defence on the second plot, the lowest would be a bit too small imo.
The US version may be able to achieve the biggest plot atm, but it will be a while before anyone here will achieve it I guess.
50's -
Scrappers - Xtream & Ouroboros Enforcer. Controllers - Vanguard Phoenix, Midnight Protector & Mythical Illusion. Tanks - Stone Cold Sober. Blasters - Ultimate Solution & Crey Prototype. Defenders - Lucifer - Bound. Peacebringers - Xtream Justice. Masterminds - Xtream Malfunction. SoA - Arachnid Lord