Zenyth

No...no they suck...they really do...

The people who play them don't, but we are a dedicated and stubborn few.

I could get behind DBZ Beamspam Photon Seekers. It'd take animation work though, but the art and animation guys have always done good work; and if they ever give us our color tintable alternate animation using customization that would be a perfect time to work on something like this.

PB Rage very much yes. Losing so much of the buildup switching forms is a pain in the backside, I'd accept longer cooldown for longer duration and lessened effect. Group Energy flight becoming some sorta click buff is fine by me too, it'd help shore up one of the gaps I find in the "jack of all trades" monicker we get told we are. We've got two controls (Pulsar/Incadescent strike), Melee, Range, all we really lack is group support, and something like you suggest for a power nobody took even when it was in a pool would help that a great deal.

Since we're on the subject of "changes we'd make to fix PB's" ive got a couple suggestions of my own...

1) Pulsar becomes mag 3 all the time, and either it becomes a hold, or Incandescent strike becomes a stun. I don't care which makes the switch, but both abilities should have synergy with each other. Pulsar would hit the minions and lieutenants, and Incandescent strike could then be used to CC a boss.

2) Radiant Strike and Solar Flare are knockdown now, not knockback. These two abilites are as much a hindrance to us as to the group. Our melee attacks make it hard for us to melee, that's just counter intuitive and should have been fixed ages ago.

3) Quantum Flight's end cost reduced. Just a no brainer here.

4) Shields changed to Defense at a lesser rate, and cosmic balance gets a solo effect. Id suggest 30 res, 30 dmg, and mag 3 protection. Every teammate added reduces those numbers by 10/10/1, and that teammate adds their normal bonus instead. So a defender added makes the numbers 20/40/2. Add a blaster and it becomes 20/30/1, and add an EAT and it becomes 10/20/0 with 10% recharge resist.

5) Dwarf form gets a taunt aura a la Invinc/RttC. Defense or Regen for enemies around them.

Anyways, those are my suggestions to add to the pile. A lot of them can even be ported over to Warshades.

I have fun with my peacebringer when I play him but it's in spite of playing the kheld that I'm having fun. I'm having fun because I'm playing with my friends, not because of my AT, and that's my main problem. I want my AT to be fun, because I enjoy the way the powers look, I enjoy the concept of the shapeshifting "jack of all trades", I enjoy the "Epic" story that went into them...now I want my AT to at least be a little more worthy of that.

I want the wonky decisions fixed, like why Pulsar is a mag 2 stun with just a chance at a mag 3. Heck, why isn't it a hold to have better synergy with Incandescent strike; or Incandescent strike a stun to have better synergy with it? We don't have any other stuns in the set except one attack in dwarf, which is another CHANCE at a minor stun.

Why don't I have some solo effect from Cosmic Balance? Didn't they recently change Defender's inherent for just that reason?

The old explanation for why human form cant have mez prot was because Dwarf form wouldn't be worth it. I'm not too awful sure its worth it now except as something to shift into when those holds hit. Dwarf damage sucks, and its not so defensive it's gonna be taking any tanker/brute/scrapper jobs anytime soon...It could use some sorta aura effect for taunt, and to maybe make it a little more worth it if Human form can get mez prot. Some debuff resistance wouldn't be uncalled for either.

We've got more powers to slot than anyone, are locked out of specific power pools and ancilliary pools which give most of the other ATs greater breadth in just what they can do. We aren't gonna get any extra slots, and I don't know that we need the extra pools, but its still a confusing decision. Would be nice if they baked some love into our powers to compensate for having to spread ourselves so thin.

My best attacks are melee in nature, but also do horrific knockback. That's so counter intuitive its ridiculous. Other AT's had such knockback turned into knockdown for that specific reason, why cant we get ours changed in the same way?

I still cant make custom Kheldian characters for Architect missions. I cant tint my powers, or change the animations despite those animations all being ones that have gotten alternatives in the sets they were cloned/pulled from...And I still want my kheld sash costume part dag nabbit!

Then there's Group Energy Flight in the secondary...what were they thinking? Really?

I just want my Peacebringer to finally get some attention. These problems aren't new, they've been here since they were added literally 17 updates ago. We've gotten little tweaks here and there, and fixes when they've broken us after forgetting we exist for a patch or two. Its time they finally sat down and DID something about us. I think we've waited long enough.

It is steady...

20 threads = A Common
60 Threads = An Uncommon
8 Empyreans = A Rare
30 Empyreans = A Very Rare

1 Astral = 4 threads

Completing a trial for the first time of the day = 1 empyrean

4 days nets you a rare, 15 a very rare. 5 astrals is a common, 15 astrals is an uncommon. You can get Astrals as many times as you can complete the objectives. Threads drop randomly. There's even a couple other ways to get uncommon and rare components, but the ones I listed seem to be the steadiest, and most likely route of acquisition for people.

The reward for successful completion is just that, a reward to help break up the steady but slow acquisition for the others.

Peacebringers bring warm bodies to the team. That's about it really. Nova's alright, a blaster/corrupter would be better. Dwarf doesn't do enough damage or have the defensive edge an actual tank/brute/scrapper would provide.

Warshades bring a little more than PBs to the team. The fact that they can leverage their gimmick (Moar bodies is moar power!) makes them a little more on par with the other AT's.

Peacebringers need some attention and love. They're by no means a waste of a group spot, but outside of being another warm body they just don't provide much to the team. Their damage is subpar, their defense lacking, they don't bring any support, or valuable debuffs, they cant sub in all that well for a ranged nuker, or a tankier AT. Id say Warshades too but improving them any you'd likely have to fiddle with all their aoe drains...and I imagine if you touched those they'd flip right out on the idea.

The whole "jack of all trades" they were supposed to be doesn't really pan out since EVERY AT is a jack of most trades now, and does their base job better to boot. Kheldians just plain need some attention.

Got my Clarion Rare tonight after a lucky BAF gave me what I needed. Grabbed the perma-version and its lovely level shift. The Mezprot makes me happy in my squidpants. The level shift helped a ton as well. I also like Ion Judgement, even at the common level.

Now I've just gotta decide what to focus on next.

I play a Peacebringer, and Clarion makes me happy in my pants.

Someone mentioned that he saw that the very rare on one of them was permable...2 minutes up, 2 minute cooldown. Im hoping its Clarion, if it is then im gonna need new pants.

Ill post my current build, but first a few notes about it.

1) I dont have that PVP IO...its pretty much the crowning achievement for the build though.

2) Im lacking most of the kinetic combat, they got 'spensive on Virtue (So 'spensive I had to sell my X to get what little of it ive got)

Other than those two notes, ive got all the rest.

So after all that lovely juicy sneaky peeky info that was posted in screenshot format from the EU getting a look see at the other incarnate trial that's coming with I20, I got to thinking about what id take from the various choices for each slot.

I gotta admit I'm torn on a couple...which lead me to come here and ask you all what YOU would take.

For Destiny I can already tell you that I imagine the vast majority of us are gonna grab Clarion (STATUS PROT! OMG STATUS PROT!). Im kinda tempted a little by Barrier (+def/+res) and Ageless (+end/+Recharge) though.

Interface im kinda leaning to the tohit debuff proc. The less Im hit the happier I am. Though -res could be nice too. The -def, and -recharge ones don't really appeal to me.

Lore, dont know, probably go with either clockwork or warworks, my characters more of a tinker type anyways.

No clue what to go with Judgement. Ionic is likely to be electricity, but its also a chain AoE, the hold would be nice though. Void would give me another nova, Pyronic would give me a better luminous detonation for human form, doubt id bother with the cryonic cone though.

So how about you all, what will YOU go with?

Dark purple, and various shades of green. You dont see enough purple in villainy, and green looks real good for an eyeglow effect.

Thats the main villain, ive got a couple others. Tried going for a copper/brass color with one, and I must admit I went with grey and maroon on another, depending on how much of a stickler you want to be that may qualify me as having used black and red...

But yeah, when I make a villain I go out of my way to avoid black and red. Its just too easy.

I would not say no to my shields becoming defense.

I would not say no to build up becoming more Ragey.

I would not say no to changes to Lightform (I really dislike how it locks us out of shapechanging).

Id not say no to alot of things as long as it meant we were looked at, acknowledged, and kept in the loop. I just want the class I play (Cause I really do enjoy it) to get some honest attention.

Right behind/beside the Arachnos Patron's in the STF.

Well...now that we have numbers and "proof" of the discrepancies, how do they go about fixing them? Will they go about fixing them? I mean they've pretty much maintained the status quo for the past 7 years...they can also run/find these numbers way better than we can and haven't done anything so far.

Smiling Joe, did you ever get hold of Black Scorpion? Any kind of response?

I imagine the trials will be kept to the smaller numbers to be honest...and that they'll just add the ability to queue up for hamidon raids and other "big threat" type content additions to it.

Long as they keep it so everything is capable of being done with a completely random group of players it shouldn't be so bad.

My main Incarnate is my Peacebringer. Went with Spiritual for the recharge, cause I like recharge. I eventually want to fill out the musculature, and cardiac tree's and switch around what im using depending on what I feel I need at any particular time, but for now im working on the recharge ones as it seems to be a good "base" to build off of.

He'll be the one I focus on most. I have a mastermind that ive unlocked the slot for, but even as my second most played character I still dont play him much. Im not an "alt" person, which makes me strange for this game. I have alts, I just tend to focus on one character better.