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Archery/Devices vs Assault Rifle/Devices

Can someone clear something up for me about the incarnates? The system, does it mean that we will be making new AT characters like VEAT, EATs, or we take an existing level 50, and level them through the incarnate levels, essentially like multi-classes in DnD? If so that means that we're raising the level cap, so to speak, without actually going beyond 50.

3 of 4 nova attacks have a base of 100 range, with 3 range IO's it puts it to 158.5 ft, throw in PvP io's set bonuses to +range, and make it with like... I dunno, the equivalent of 4 range iO's in the powers, and yea I can see it happening, 200 feet.

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I was doing fyte club, and this guy totally cheated and pulled out a temp weapon, so I told my friend to come in and help.

One thing I hear about it too is that Weaken not only does the -special, but I believe in the process that reduces mez resist.

If someone can confirm that, it'd be great. Because a side effect is increasing mez durations against enemies.

One thing I know for sure though you may take for granted is if you have those enemies that can knock you back through acrobatics... Weaken's -special does -Knockback unlike powerboost. So therefore they won't be able to do knockback to you.

Predatoric, I like to think I'm the voice of reason for the most part. Yes I'll make stupid off topic posts at times but if you really want the truth, I'll give it to you straight.

It is not barrier's or any of our intents to flame you but the travel power issue IS a big deal for us.

Well everyone here has given you reasons not to take Fly, ONLY. We're not saying NOT to take fly, just do not take fly ONLY. Super Speed needs to be in there simply for movement.

Allow me to share a few ideas and subjective ideals why though.

#1. Your build is not team friendly.

I am primarily a support and disruption player, my point of view is for stopping the other team, not necessarily killing them. It is your role to ease the higher damaging AT's from getting spiked or teamed on by too much damage. You do this obviously through your taunt and absorbing the damage thrown your way.

Do you have taunt? Why yes you do. But tell me... how are you going to use it if you get single-handedly webbed, and grounded to snail speed and I have 3 attackers on me way out of your reach?

Well regardless of getting webbed, you and the 1 guy who's webbing you are going at it, meanwhile I'm outnumbed. Well Super speed comes into play where even IF you are webbed, you can still reach us and come do your job, pull taunts and webs on these multiple attackers.

But by choosing not to, you fall very far behind everyone and end up being dead weight on a team. It's not very considerate to team play.

#2, Travel Suppression: Just in case you didn't know it, Travel supression in pvp works as such; you get attacked, your jump, run, and fly speed get reduced to (x) ammount.

This (x) variable is no different for AT's, and remains a constant. If your current speed is OVER (x) ammount, the remainder is considered when calculating speed debuffs.

Example: I am running 100 mph, TS kicks in and brings me to 15 mph, the remaining 85 is still there.

Now I am stuck with a glue arrow, which, diminished and all takes away about 70 mph.

For the sake of example we'll just take the 70 from the 100, and your remainder is 30. The 30 is still higher than the (x) limit of 15, so you will not see a difference in speed.

Now I know this is NOT exactly how it works, but it is fairly similar. But the point of this math exercise is to say that super speed, even when you get stuck in patches like quicksand, caltrops, tar patch, ect... you will not get slowed. And can move in and out at normal Travel supression speeds.

However, NOT taking super speed results in a Travel supression AND you will get slowed to a crawl, and stuck inside nasty debuff patches.

#3. We are the voice of experience, make no mistakes or delusions about it.

No we are not trying to flame you in any way. Maybe you have this idea that we're all a bunch of snarling blue meanies


But we have been out there, playtesting the builds, finding out what works and why, testing the obscure builds and powersets.

And when a large majority says "Yes, this is going to be awful. Like... Having Bea Arthur trying to seduce you in a bikini kind of awful." Then it's probably a good idea to listen to the voice of reason.

We're asking you to be reasonable. Yes we realise that fly can go higher than jump. Big whoop. It also happens to be the slowest form of travel, have the lowest speed cap than SS and SJ, and it's Travel Suppression (x) factor is also the slowest. Piece all that together and it's not hard to see why it is not recommended in the slightest to use this ONLY.

Super strength trumps claws in pvp anyday, anytime. PvP is not about DPS, it's about DPA (stay with me now, I've said DP a lot and know you're giggling like children.)

You need to output damage hard and fast, claws does follow up, and SS does rage, and that alone is good enough to NOT pick claws. And about attack speeds, claws is only slightly faster (we're talking only tenths of seconds here) on the low tier attacks. Not by enough to make it useful. As a matter of fact all the lower tier attacks still do less damage than super strengths lower tier attacks.

Let me give you a comparison... Claws has Eviserate as it's hardest hitting move, 2.33 animation time for a base of 96 damage in pvp... It's buffable by 30% damage with follow up.

Super Strength has knockout blow 2.23 animation time with a base of 167 damage, buffable by 80% to 160% with 1 or 2 stacked rages.

KB is slightly faster animating, for a whole buttload more damage. THAT is a move-by-move comparative you should be doing with pvp sets.

Let's not forget that stacked rage tacks on 20%-40% to-hit... and you don't need to first make the hit to buff yourself.

With that said, super strength is clearly the winner here. It's really no contest.

As far as secondaries, Invuln works, Fire aura works, Shield defense works, Electric armor works. WP is a little gimpy but you still have lots of HP... SR works kinda... just need to be in elude all the time. Energy aura, dark armor, stone armor just aren't pvp sets.

Powerboost, for any AT.

There is no Mez protection in pvp anymore. Only mez resist. So break frees aren't usefull anymore.

No you will not be locked down all the time, mez supression still works normally, and as a blaster you'll find isn't so bad. Remember Defiance? You can shoot through crippling mezes. Sleep, hold, stun, ect.

I should also mention that the moves that you CAN use while mezed, also happen to be your top 2 stronger moves anyway (and in some sets, the strongest moves).

Fire blast is good, fire manipulation.... not so much.

Devices is good for pvp, but someone who uses them more than I can explain in better detail.

Edit: I should add that Knockback and confuse are the only real worrysome problems. Knockback because you can't fire and and fall flat every time, and confuse because you can shoot, but just your teammates...

/tom_servo Saaaayyyyy!

I like it.

Edit: It seems the link isn't working for me.