Best, Favorite, Underrated: Temp Powers


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Hey all. Your neighborhood unique snowflake reinventor of the wheelie crazy guy Dahjee here to promote the use of Temp powers in PvP. I know arena has 7 or so to choose from, but I wanted to focus on the many temps available for use in zone PvP. I love the fact that IO bonuses still affect powers that we can't slot, like temp powers. Range and Rechage bonuses come to mind. I also like that you can carry multiples of the same temp power depending on where you got them from.

Ok so the obvious comes to mind first with mobilty temps like jetpack, and temp web grenade is likely a must for many... some temps are easy to get, some are harder while some are a complete grind. But what to you all is worth the effort to keep or save or grind for often so that it's with you in the zone? What are some of your favorite temps? What would you all consider the best? Which temps do you all consider quite underrated for PvP? I'm talking anything from powers you can craft to those made in base to those randomly picked up, to temp pets like shivans and heavies, to those you can Ouros back to get over and over.

I'd say my favorite is smoke bomb. Most of my PvP toons focus on mitigation or disruption, and stacking -percerption debuffs and lowering someone below the perception cap can go along way in a zone.

The best IMO has got to be the Chemical Nuke from Warburg. A five minute super debuff! Timed right and used against as many peeps as possible.

Lastly, I'd vote for redside's Force of the Earth Temp as most underrated. An AoE ranged confuse. It's pretty amusing when my brute runs into a group with this ready to spam once or twice. It's saved my butt on a lot of toons in the past but I rarely take the time to go back and get a fresh set.

Anyone else care to share?


"Situational power? Sure. Although in a sense... all powers are situational. It's just that some situations occur more than others." Understand the situation needed in order for the power to be most effective... and make that situation happen.

 

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Please waste to the time to get nukes for zone pvp.


The only two answers to this question that make sense are the fly pack and temp phase. Anything else is more of a gimmick than useful.


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the force of the earth power ONLY works on devouring earth, it doesnt work like nectar from the spring fling/valentines event


 

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I'll second what conflict said....but also throw in an honorable mention for the "pimp stick".(nem staff)


 

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Please waste to the time to get nukes for zone pvp.


The only two answers to this question that make sense are the fly pack and temp phase. Anything else is more of a gimmick than useful.
I also PvP while getting nukes, cause it's a PvP zone that most are scurred to go to. oooo warburg!

Many things can be useful in a zone if used by smart players... having a temp for the right occasion is smart imo. I thought it was a good thing to use all that's offered in PvP. Isn't that the arguement used when the lol cool kids knock the fiteclubbers or no? I'm sure the argument will now change right... "No, we just meant use insps... not everything!"


Oh well. it was worth the inqury.

Jetpack and phase are the only useful Temps... not KB increase or any off the wall shield or -res power or anything. Nope, just jetpack and phase. I wasn't asking if you silly folks thought Temp powers were effective. I already know the answer to that. I was curious as to what temps you find most effective. Your opinions of the best, your favorites and what you consider underrated.I got Jetpacks and Phase from the zone leadr of all Zones except those he won't waste time in: Conflict. Jetpack and Temp Phase


Anyone else care to share their favorite temp powers to use in zone?

I'm starting to think I13 dumbed down PvP'ers moreso than PvP. The excuses used to justify what some consider ineffective or lol "bad" is getting very sad to read. I've been around long enough to know that what's being considered this way is being done so without actually trying... [Of course will follow the tale of that guy who had every single temp power in the game all the time years ago and died twice so temp powes = Bad!]

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the force of the earth power ONLY works on devouring earth, it doesnt work like nectar from the spring fling/valentines event
My apologies you are correct. I was mistaken with the temp power gained from valentines. I actully did grind the Ouros once to get Force of the earth. I forgot however about it's limited usage.


"Situational power? Sure. Although in a sense... all powers are situational. It's just that some situations occur more than others." Understand the situation needed in order for the power to be most effective... and make that situation happen.

 

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I'm starting the I13 dumbed down PvP'ers moreso than PvP. The excuses used to justify what some consider ineffective or lol "bad" is getting very sad to read. I've been around long enough to know that what's being considered this way is being done so without actually trying...
The only things dumb here are your pieces of advice and assumptions that sets and powers have not been used and experimented with. Also, your bad advice could lead to someone wasting their time making something dumb for pvp.

You really have little to no clue about pvp and it shows by your posts and pvp performance. I've seen you in action and I have to be honest and say that one of the most laughable pvpers in RV on Freedom is considerably better compared to you.

Think before you post and say something useful or keep "blah blah blahing" the pvp community who seems to have more of a clue than you and continue looking bad.


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Rollback on barrier nerf plz


 

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The only things dumb here are your pieces of advice and assumptions that sets and powers have not been used and experimented with. Also, your bad advice could lead to someone wasting their time making something dumb for pvp.

You really have little to no clue about pvp and it shows by your posts and pvp performance. I've seen you in action and I have to be honest and say that one of the most laughable pvpers in RV on Freedom is considerably better compared to you.

Think before you post and say something useful or keep "blah blah blahing" the pvp community who seems to have more of a clue than you and continue looking bad.

All I heard was... "blah blah I hate you cause I can't prove you wrong"

you're off topic btw lol

My advice is bad compared to zone PvP is retarded and only bad players can be good there? Too damn funny.


"Situational power? Sure. Although in a sense... all powers are situational. It's just that some situations occur more than others." Understand the situation needed in order for the power to be most effective... and make that situation happen.

 

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I was here before you Dahjee, I will be here when you are gone. I have come across several really bad pvpers who liked to speak their mind and thought they were the messiah the free thinking movement required. When you get a chance hit up sentry4 and zen shadow and ask them how they fared against me.


And for the record, yes you are bad, your advice is worse. Please go set some traps and afk kill something and then forget where the forums are. Thanks.


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My comments were on topic.

You can't make statements like this...

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I'm starting to think I13 dumbed down PvP'ers moreso than PvP. The excuses used to justify what some consider ineffective or lol "bad" is getting very sad to read. I've been around long enough to know that what's being considered this way is being done so without actually trying...
When you are an extremely subpar pvper that gives poor advice.


Grasping at straws to recover won't save you. Keep it up though, it's very amusing.


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Guess it's hard to click while actively trying to keep the drool away from the keyboard...

 

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There's that temp power which is a 100% end drain and 100% chance to drop all toggles, that's kinda lolzy.


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A few things:

1. This was not a Advice thread. It's an OP that poses three basic questions. None of which have really been answered by anyone but me. Simple questions, simple thread, yet the same tired egos showing up to find a way to disagree with a topic even though there's nothing to disagree with....

2. I'm not a subpar player. Anyone who actually knows me know this. Weird PvP toons perhaps, but not a subpar player by far. Those who think this of me are disregarded due to ignorance in my book. Sorry. My rep here (on deh forums) is bad not because I'm bad (to all those who don't actually know) My rep here is bad because I don't do Damage... not yet anyway. I'm saving that for last. I do everything having to do with PvP besides damage. It is my main focus when building and participating in PvP. To make a Stalker/Blaster now would probably bore me right out of the game. I get kills, have fun, stay rich from drops, have fun, find counters for FoTMs, get kills, I die trying a lot, I never rage or disrespect, and I do not require a system to change to enjoy PvP.

3. If those here who have been deemed worthy to post opinions know the most... and have labeled zone PvP as supbar due to the rules and the system and/or the people that PvP in it. How can one turn to the same peeps in terms of guidance here on the boards in terms of what works and what is viable? Hell, Conflict only uses 2 temp powers outta of how many avalable to use in the game while PvPing in a zone???

4. Temp powers used at the right time for the right purpose in a zone are awesome. We all use them when we got them so theres really nothing to disagree about. What it takes to get them and whether it is worth it is different for everyone... the point of the OP was to discuss different temps and their effect in PvP if one so chooses to fetch it or have it drop.

Leave the hate at home people. This thread does not require it.


"Situational power? Sure. Although in a sense... all powers are situational. It's just that some situations occur more than others." Understand the situation needed in order for the power to be most effective... and make that situation happen.

 

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Hell, Conflict only uses 2 temp powers outta of how many avalable to use in the game while PvPing in a zone???
Ah, so now skill is determined by how many temp powers you use? Seriously if you keep moving the bar like this we'll never catch up.

(Sidenote: I remember fighting a Grav/Therm that pulled a Shivan and Warwolf on me in an arena match and still died in less than 30 seconds lolz)


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Ah, so now skill is determined by how many temp powers you use?
I wouldn't and didn't say that Mac. I'd say that in an open zone where almost every power is available... that there are temp powers out there that can provide an edge and that many or most skillful PvPers out there usually try to be as sharp as possible, ya dig?

My elec/elec brute grinds for a whole 4 min sometimes to get power shield to increase resist by like 3 or 4 more percent. Four whole minutes I know, but nothing I can't manage on my way from the market to RV. Oh and it actually has key binded to use the temp Elec Attack (forget the name) whenever it has it stocked to assist with it's sapping nature. Sure it works without it... but these just kinda fill in some gaps and are easily attaned by me.

and seriously... Flash Arrow> Smoke Bomb> Smoke Bomb... Freaks people out. Good stuff really.


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(Sidenote: I remember fighting a Grav/Therm that pulled a Shivan and Warwolf on me in an arena match and still died in less than 30 seconds lolz)
Keep talking arena to me... I think I'm gonna LOL.


"Situational power? Sure. Although in a sense... all powers are situational. It's just that some situations occur more than others." Understand the situation needed in order for the power to be most effective... and make that situation happen.

 

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Originally Posted by ConFlict View Post
I was here before you Dahjee, I will be here when you are gone. I have come across several really bad pvpers who liked to speak their mind and thought they were the messiah the free thinking movement required. When you get a chance hit up sentry4 and zen shadow and ask them how they fared against me.


And for the record, yes you are bad, your advice is worse. Please go set some traps and afk kill something and then forget where the forums are. Thanks.
I swear all you do is flame on every post... you really need a new hobby or something.


 

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Back to OP...

Temp Phase and the chemical nuke you mentioned can work wonders if used right. All temp powers are situational though, and those two are the easiest to use with the biggest effects, despite the time it takes to get chemical nuke, a slight boost is better than none :P


 

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Fire Extinguisher is the best. /thread


 

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Fire Extinguisher is the best. /thread
lol actually i change my vote to this ^

Hose Party!


 

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Originally Posted by Dahjee View Post
I wouldn't and didn't say that Mac. I'd say that in an open zone where almost every power is available... that there are temp powers out there that can provide an edge and that many or most skillful PvPers out there usually try to be as sharp as possible, ya dig?
Right, except most players won't go out of their way to get a temp power that is incredibly situational unless it's really really good (see: that Longbow rifle temp power). I don't care that you have a zillion copies of Divining Rod or Bow and Arrow or Iron Blade or whatever other temp powers you have, because they're completely unenhanceable and you have to get new ones every time you burn through them

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My elec/elec brute grinds for a whole 4 min sometimes to get power shield to increase resist by like 3 or 4 more percent. Four whole minutes I know, but nothing I can't manage on my way from the market to RV. Oh and it actually has key binded to use the temp Elec Attack (forget the name) whenever it has it stocked to assist with it's sapping nature. Sure it works without it... but these just kinda fill in some gaps and are easily attaned by me.
If you are relying on temp powers to "fill in some gaps" with your character, there's greater issues afoot here.

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Keep talking arena to me... I think I'm gonna LOL.
Was under zone rules, but of course that wouldn't matter to you as you think playing a trapper in zone with 9 trays full of temp powers is the pinnacle of competition in this game.

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I swear all you do is flame on every post... you really need a new hobby or something.
Some people mistake "calling stupid people stupid" for "flaming." It appears you are one of those people.


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Nullifier Gun Mk 1 was what you were looking for mac.

As for useful temp powers, I like to kite people with the Lost Curing Wand.


 

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That's offensive- to the mentally challenged.


Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit

 

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Back before you kids had these fancy abilities to respec out of patrons and AS actually could actually one shot/almost one shot squishies I used to keep crafting the temp revolver to try and finish off people


 

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If you are relying on temp powers to "fill in some gaps" with your character, there's greater issues afoot here.

It's not a reliance Mac.

If you're gonna go for effect... find everyway possible to do so. There aren't many things in the game anymore to increase KB mag is there? Is it dumb for my FF'der to craft KB increase from base before Zone PvPing... no it is not.

I could go on but it's quite pointless. With all due respect Mac... if you yourself don't use or need or benefit from temp powers in Zone PvP... then you don't belong in this thread.


"Situational power? Sure. Although in a sense... all powers are situational. It's just that some situations occur more than others." Understand the situation needed in order for the power to be most effective... and make that situation happen.

 

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I'd have to say the Void Hunter Rifle.
I found myself up against a Warshade one time in Siren's Call.

It was mildly entertaining.

Wait, is this thread for our best AND favourite AND underrated temp power? Or the temp power we consider our favourite, regardless of whether it is underrated or the 'best'.


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