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At single target damage?


Ultimus, stone/shield brute is effective and fun. Decent against large groups and really strong vs 1 or two targets. Knock up and knock down can really neutralize almost perma juggle bosses.

Hey, no problem. I will endeavor to be more clear and avoid mixing comparisions. I have edited the post for clarity.
Hmmm, refamiliarize myself with how much damage Archery's Tier 9 attack does? You can't just give me the answer? Should that be per activation or over a peticular period of time?

Actually, I did this last week and more, preparing a brutally long post with numbers from Mid's comparing all blaster T9 base damages, a list of approx peak personal buffed damge (aim BU IOs), a third comparision adding some temps and then mentioning other +dam options (inspir, SG & team buffs). Only to come to the conclusion that I had wasted 30-40 minutes. So I parsed it down.
"The nukes that do have a crash are rather big per application." (per activation was pretty clear IMHO). Your own numbers for Nova show an approx endurance cost of 120. If I had 60 end at activation it makes sense I'd be completely out of endurance. Even if I was at 105%. I'm over simplifying it.

I guess I could have added how Tier 9s fell into basically three categories.
#1 - Lots of damage over a period of time with minor mitigations (-rech, scatter)(500-544 base dam)
#2 - Lots of damage with decent mitigating effects (312-375 base dam)
#3 - Faster recharge, crashless, lesser damage per activation, minimal if any mitigation (225ish base dam). The third type could be fired at will, endurance permitting.

Yes, yes, yes, rain of arrows is more damage over an extended period of time, say two minutes. 6-7 activations for 225 (base damage) > 1 activation of 500 (base damage). I get that.
However that makes at least two assumptions. 1) Targets will survive for at least the 2 minutes. 2) No other attacks are made during that time frame.

A proper comparison would have to incorporate an optimum attack chain for each of the T9s as if there were no crashes to really be apples to apples. Frankly that makes me tired just typing it. (end, rec, buffs with timers, survivability, is the target moving, etc.)

No need to examine down to decimal places to understand that in the most general sense, more damage = more cost in activation, rechage and/or endurance. And in some cases even a penalty (Many T9s, Energy Transfer, even Oppressive Gloom come to mind)

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Blaster make big boom, use up all power. Exhausted, need rest.

The nukes that do have a crash are rather big per application. Maybe not DPS wise currently.

If folks want T9s like Full Auto, Rain of Arrows and Overcharge. Faster recharging and unbuffed {base} damage of 200{+/-}. (178-234), (225), (219) {respectively}. Okay {with me}.

If folks think they are getting Inferno or Blizzard with no crash. Thats just silly.
Already without too much effort {using aim+build up+IOs}, up every two minutes, Inferno 2350+ or blizzrd 2040+. No procs, no incarnates, no temps, no outside buffs. With them, pushing 3000.

A bit more mezz protection. Yay.
Some more reliable single target mitigation. YAY!
Sniper upgrade. YAY!
Crashless nukes...
Reworking them? Cool. Just seems unlikely beyond some adjustments and thats a bummer. Upgraded 'counter measures' would be great.

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Crashless nukes for all just isn't going to happen. Niether are massive damage increases on AOE's.
Even slight bumps end up being huge at the higher performace edges of the game.

300-400% damage buffs is quite a bit (500 is the cap). If a blaster is running around without a couple hundred points of damage buffs at least 1/3 of the time I don't think that is using what is available.

Reworking them?? Or just letting them fade away... There is most likely something in the works.

IMO stalkers were not broken, but they were improved. The same opportunity exists for blasters with the same mechanic that now exists. Make a extremely high damage, very long activation, interruptable power, instant.
I do see how you (and others) feel blasters have been left behind and deserve to be looked at and possibly reworked. I totally agree they should have SOME top tier SINGLE TARGET damage powers.

Still they have them and they aren't the worst or terrible.

I would ask - Is it possible the lack of blaster performance is perceived more in just the higher levels and end game? Or do they under perform even in the 1-45ish levels?

Like blasting stuff?

nah, can't make them all the same yet have them be different in ways other than skins.

see above

WHAT!?! Seriously? Oh Ice/Energy such dreams...

OK, this I'd agree with. Don't they already have that.

Isn't this how it is?

What would your minimum level of effectiveness be?
All ATs should be able to engage 4 targets pretty early in the game and grow from there or a blaster should be able to go +4x8 kill everything and not get a scratch.

IMHO if a blaster can't engage 4-5 mixed targets, they are doing it wrong. If a blaster is trying to build for defense and then doesn't think they are blasty enough, isn't that a choice? It's not difficult to get a perma 35-40% damage boost from IOs, +aim, +build up, +choke down a couple reds and possibly a random build up from a proc. That's pretty blasty.

Um blasters should blast. Is that too obvious?

Blast stuff and try not to get killed.

Hospital frequent flyer miles can be expected. The being mezzed or knocked around all the time, that could be rough. There are easy fixes available though. Break free, blast some more. Anything more should be available at the cost of the blastiness.

As far as seamless chains and such. Really?

I'd be in favor of a stalker AS like sniper ability mid fight. That'd be cool.

Is there a description of the stuff in the survey somewhere?

Some of us who'd like to take the survey but have no idea what some of the awesomeness is.

At first glance, I thought chain mail was a power set.