VIP to Free.


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So, I'm currently a T9 VIP with perhaps.....one powerset purchased since Freedom went live. I have two personal groups, one hero, one villain. I'm currently using 21 of 26 character slots on Virtue server.

My question is this: What do I lose if my sub slips and I can't keep it going? IE, I become a free premium player, I'd think.

As a note, the SG and VG are personal in the sense that -I- am the only person in the group. All my characters and nobody else's.


 

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You lose the ability to pay your base rent unless they fixed that (find a trusted VIP), and you lose access to all incarnate content plus some of the missions in the new zones (first ward for example).

You will also lose access to some characters but not many, if you've unlocked 14 extra slots, you'll probably have access to 16 characters.


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You might lose access to your EATs until you purchase the unlock, that's always been a little unclear to me. Any of the Going Rogue content (power sets, side switching, costume pieces, ect) will lock up if you didn't purchase the expansion. You'll also need to purchase any of the VIP powersets for characters who might be using them (time manipulation, dark affinity, dark control) and any of the VIP costume sets we've had over the past few issues.


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You will also lose access to some powersets, specifically: Dark Assault, Darkness Affinity, Darkness Control, Time Manipulation and the four Going Rogue Powersets (although if you purchased Going Rogue prior to Freedom you'll retain access to them).

You may lose access to any Epic AT characters you have, you're supposed to lose access but people have reported retaining access to existing EATs so you may be able to keep them.

You will lose access to the Signature Story Arcs, First Ward and Night Ward unless you buy them separately (Night Ward is not yet available).

You will lose access to Incarnate Abilities (any that you've created will remain but you won't be able to use them).

You will lose access to a few costume sets and will not be able to change costumes using them unless you buy them.


 

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I think AT access depends on when you made them. If they were unlocked by getting to level 20 before Freedom, you may be able to keep them. Check /mypurchases and see whether they're listed there.


 

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Hrm. Yeah, I did prepurchase Going Rogue when it first came out. Ditto the costume packs. Pretty much if they sold it before Freedom hit, I bought it.

So I'm going to lose access to ten whole character slots? Do I get to choose which ones, or is that arbitrarily done?


 

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It may not be a full 10 slots. You also likely have a few granted slots from yearly rewards in addition to the purchased slots. You might get 2 for having GR, but I can't recall what they said on that as it's been over a year ago.

Yes, you can choose which slots to open.


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If you have VIP only costumes as the only costume/default costume for some characters, they won't lock the character.

When you reactivate your VIP, 10 empty slots will open, instead of the ones they locked.


 

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You won't lose anything.

Access to parts of the game will be limited or unavailable though still visable, taunting you to come back or at least unlock them through the market.


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Originally Posted by Surging_Starfall View Post
If you have VIP only costumes as the only costume/default costume for some characters, they won't lock the character.

When you reactivate your VIP, 10 empty slots will open, instead of the ones they locked.

Wait....let me see if I'm understanding this right. I pick which characters to play, locking out the others. When/if I sub back up....I -lose- those characters in favor of empty slots?


 

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Originally Posted by Minotaur View Post
You will also lose access to some characters but not many, if you've unlocked 14 extra slots, you'll probably have access to 16 characters.
From previous experience, I must respectfully disagree with this assessment. It's more true to say that if you currently as VIP have 14 extra slots on Virtue, then you will have 14 server slots to use on Virtue toons only when you downgrade to premium. Any currently unallocated global slots will be available to unlock toons on any server other than Exalted.

The 2 slot difference is due to confusion over the 2 global slots that new free players get. I also experienced this confusion and got unconfused from cold experience.


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Originally Posted by mercykilling View Post
Wait....let me see if I'm understanding this right. I pick which characters to play, locking out the others. When/if I sub back up....I -lose- those characters in favor of empty slots?
VIP to Preem:
- everything locks down. You are given X server slots, which you can choose to spend on empty slots to make new characters or unlock existing characters. EATs may require additional market purchase to unlock, but probably not.

Preem to VIP:
- everything locks down. You are given 12 + X server slots which you can choose to unlock whichever characters/empty slots you want.


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Originally Posted by mercykilling View Post
Wait....let me see if I'm understanding this right. I pick which characters to play, locking out the others. When/if I sub back up....I -lose- those characters in favor of empty slots?
When you go to use your locked characters after the 10 new ones become unlocked, it will ask if you want to open it with one of the free slots or using a global.

So in other words, you have the option to make 10 entirely new ones or open whichever ones you like using the 10 empty slots. Open slots count as server slots, and will become locked to unlock a locked character.

I actually prefer this method, since in the past I just made lots of random characters, took them for 1 or 2 DFBs then never used them again but didn't want to delete them. Now I get to do it all over again but have the option to use the ones I made in the past.


 

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Originally Posted by Minotaur View Post
You lose the ability to pay your base rent unless they changed that (find a trusted VIP), and you lose access to all incarnate content plus some of the missions in the new zones (first ward for example).

You will also lose access to some characters but not many, if you've unlocked 14 extra slots, you'll probably have access to 16 characters.
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Originally Posted by Aggelakis View Post
VIP to Preem:
- everything locks down. You are given X server slots, which you can choose to spend on empty slots to make new characters or unlock existing characters. EATs may require additional market purchase to unlock, but probably not.
Also of note, I think you can unlock a character you actually can't play due to its using a 'free to VIP' powerset or possibly being an EAT. Though that's not a problem if you plan on paying to unlock them.


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Originally Posted by Oliin View Post
Also of note, I think you can unlock a character you actually can't play due to its using a 'free to VIP' powerset or possibly being an EAT. Though that's not a problem if you plan on paying to unlock them.
Yes. If you haven't bought the power sets or archetype, you can unlock a slot that requires further unlocking. HOWEVER, it is spelled out in the info popups exactly what you need to unlock. It will say you don't have X power set, or X archetype, in addition to needing to unlock the slot. So you are forewarned if you're paying attention that just unlocking the slot isn't all that needs to be done to play.


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Originally Posted by Dispari View Post
I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.

 

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Originally Posted by Aggelakis View Post
Yes. If you haven't bought the power sets or archetype, you can unlock a slot that requires further unlocking. HOWEVER, it is spelled out in the info popups exactly what you need to unlock. It will say you don't have X power set, or X archetype, in addition to needing to unlock the slot. So you are forewarned if you're paying attention that just unlocking the slot isn't all that needs to be done to play.
Given all the people I've seen complain about 'wasting an unlock' on a character that they didn't have access to the AT/powerset I just assumed there was no warning. Now I'm just kind of sad.


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Originally Posted by Oliin View Post
Given all the people I've seen complain about 'wasting an unlock' on a character that they didn't have access to the AT/powerset I just assumed there was no warning. Now I'm just kind of sad.
Yep. Computers have trained people to click through popups because "who needs to know the rules? I know how it works!"

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I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.