Attn: Blaster Farmers, Question


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My long time Arch/MM Farmer needs a small update. I've found while farming people in S/L Caves or Labs that the mobs scatter too much, I was wondering if anyone has tried the Presence Pool with their Blasting Farmers and had success. I'm currently using the Hybrid Melee Taunt as well but it barely works. Could Provoke fix my problems?


 

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Overwhelming force in explosive shot.

Otherwise, things should be dead before they scatter


 

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I haven't tried provoke, so I can't say for sure, but I'm guessing it doesn't hit enough targets to really be useful. Have you considered the aoe immobilize from mace mastery?


 

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I tell you what's money for my farming blaster to prevent scatter - the Overwheling Force proc in Bonfire. They go nowhere but up and down! I haven't played him for a couple of days so I'm anxious to get back at it.

Actually I'm fully aware of the changes so I'm at the same place as the OP, evaluating what my respec will be and scatter mitigation is a consideration. This blaster is Rad/Fire and I'm considering Snow Storm from Cold Mastery to cap -speed or Mace's aoe immob. Leaning to Cold Mastery since I like a couple other powers there. That's probably not as much help to the OP since I'm intending to stack Hot Feet with Snow Storm, so slows won't be as useful to MM.


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I have Explosive, with the proc in it. And I also have Electrifying Fences but it still isn't enough when facing bosses. Farming solo is a piece of cake though. Maybe I just need to lead with a Fences so I have time to apply a second before the scatter.


 

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Dont know y you want blaster farm nothing beats SS/fire brute +8/54 against fire mobs


 

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Mine leads with elec fences. It doesn't work that well, but at least it ensures most of the minions die.

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Dont know y you want blaster farm nothing beats SS/fire brute +8/54 against fire mobs
You have a brute that can go up against +8 mobs? That's an impressive feat. Unfortunately, it is also irrelevant to the thread.


 

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Originally Posted by PL_Beggar View Post
Dont know y you want blaster farm nothing beats SS/fire brute +8/54 against fire mobs
I don't know I asked around yesterday on how long a complete cave run takes to clear and I was told 40 to 45 minutes from about 4 to 5 players hawking their toon for private runs.

I just tested it out with my AR Device and did it in 45 minutes. My TA Arch Defender will noticeably take a bit longer I can tell just from testing it out. My Shield Electric seems to do it in about 40. Granted was my really first time doing to so I didn't have a system down on what to do and where to go.

But nonetheless unless I ran into 4 players that just suck, I don't see much of a difference in the run times for that statement to seem too valid to me. I'm certainly not gonna gripe if it takes a SS/Fire brute 15 minutes less to do then me on a blaster. Especially since when you compare builds the Brute probably paid a several BILLION more then I did for 100s of million build. End result I have probably 5 toons that can run that mish for the price of that one Brute.


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But nonetheless unless I ran into 4 players that just suck, I don't see much of a difference in the run times for that statement to seem too valid to me. I'm certainly not gonna gripe if it takes a SS/Fire brute 15 minutes less to do then me on a blaster. Especially since when you compare builds the Brute probably paid a several BILLION more then I did for 100s of million build. End result I have probably 5 toons that can run that mish for the price of that one Brute.
It's really very cheap to make a purpose-built SS/Fire Brute. I'm not disputing that the people you talked to spent billions, but if all you want is a farm-capable Brute build, you don't have to break the bank.


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Nice hijack...

I have tried the presence pool and found it woeful. More damage might be your best option..


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Originally Posted by Micro Atomic View Post
My long time Arch/MM Farmer needs a small update. I've found while farming people in S/L Caves or Labs that the mobs scatter too much, I was wondering if anyone has tried the Presence Pool with their Blasting Farmers and had success. I'm currently using the Hybrid Melee Taunt as well but it barely works. Could Provoke fix my problems?
I've wanted Provoke on my farm-capable Blasters for a long time but I've never been able to work it into my build without losing my 32.5% positional defense or perma Drain Psyche, both of which are things I'm not willing to part with. Melee Hybrid is great, and like Stone said, E-Fences from Mu Mastery helps.

Here's a point for you to consider though: Even if you did have a perma taunt aura/AOE taunt, clearing every enemy in a mob is not the best means of earning the highest rewards over time. Hit the bulk of the enemies, once they start to scatter outside of AOE radius, move on to the next group. Repeat until the bulk is cleared, and then reset and do it again. You'll earn more xp for a friend, tickets, drops, etc. this way regardless. The bulk of rewards lie in clearing LT's and minions, so it stands to reason that you should be clearing as many of those as you can as quickly as possible.


 

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Originally Posted by Obitus View Post
It's really very cheap to make a purpose-built SS/Fire Brute. I'm not disputing that the people you talked to spent billions, but if all you want is a farm-capable Brute build, you don't have to break the bank.
Agreed, SS/Fire Brute is cheap. 90% fire res and 2x rage is easily 160% damage.

Don't see how that's billions.


 

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TBH/Seph, one purple soft caps all your positional defenses? Are you still planning on scrapping TBH for a fire/mm? This thread in no way relates to Brutes, I'm not looking for information regarding Brutes.


 

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TBH/Seph, one purple soft caps all your positional defenses? Are you still planning on scrapping TBH for a fire/mm? This thread in no way relates to Brutes, I'm not looking for information regarding Brutes.
Yea I have all my Arch/Ment's stuff moved over to my Fire/Ment for i24. It uses passive accolades and Agility Alpha for build goals so make sure to turn all that stuff on.


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I'd be interested in seeing the Fire/MM build
Have you looked into Water/MM? It's plausible, but come i24 Inferno wil likely be the superior nuke.


 

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I'd be interested in seeing the Fire/MM build
As soon as i24 launches I will post the current i23 version of the build. I work hard on my current builds and don't like the idea of people running around with carbon copies of them (while I'm still using them.) My general policy is to post my previous builds when I upgrade though.
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Have you looked into Water/MM? It's plausible, but come i24 Inferno wil likely be the superior nuke.
Yeah, the recharge on the Nuke is too long to compete with current Archery AOE speeds- Fireball/Shockwave/RoF is currently a bit behind ROA/Shockwave/Explosive Arrow but adding crashless Inferno into the rotation means Fire pulls ahead and Water remains behind both. Fire's ST is also the best.


 

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Or you could take flight or even just a jetpack temp power and get a knockback protection IO. Go rampage through an earth farm. Stay a distance above them and their earth attacks can't reach you. They just kinda mill around below you as you kill them at your leisure.

What's great is that any ranged character can do it and from a very early level. You can use it to level pretty early and you can find some lowbies who want power leveled to come in and help you kill stuff. Archery is best for it but Water and Assault Rifle work too since they have ranged, crashless nukes. Ice corruptors will be amazing for it once the crashless nukes are in. Scourging blizzard.


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Another option is to partner up with someone else on a toon that can help you imob/hold them. There may be some people who just want to change up what they use to farm or who don't have or want to play a "ideal" farming alt.


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