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Thanks to Massively for this one!

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Ever heard of Treehouse Avatar Technologies? Yeah, neither have we, but a lawsuit filed this week is aiming to get the Canadian-based web services company a little publicity.

After being awarded a patent for the "Method And System For Presenting Data Over A Network Based On Network User Choices And Collecting Real-Time Data Related To Said Choices" on May 15th of this year, Treehouse is going after Turbine for what they consider infringement with both Lord of the Rings Online and Dungeons and Dragons Online. The lawyer-speak in the suit itself is not for the faint of heart, but a few of the claims include the fact that LotRO and DDO are "character-enabled" and "have character-attribute data linked with one or more character data."

We can't help but be reminded of the Worlds.com vs. NCsoft lawsuit filed a few years ago claiming an infringement on "scalable chat," but it seems a bit far-fetched that a patent suit can be won over games that came out several years before the patent was even issued. But hey, that's why we write about video games and don't swing a gavel around
Here is more information on the patent itself.

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How could the Patent Office have even issued this patent lol. Does the Patent Office not have Internet yet?


 

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Originally Posted by _Klaw_ View Post
How could the Patent Office have even issued this patent lol. Does the Patent Office not have Internet yet?
reminds me of the Worlds.com patent case against NCsoft.... although that was settled out of court, it means that there was no confirmation of the validity of the patent. If Ncsoft had *lost* the case though, then the whole MMO/Online gaming world could be wildly different to what we have now.


 

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Does the Patent Office not have Internet yet?
The USPO is completely clueless and doesn't even know that prior patents cover what this does, let alone the Internet for the last 20 years.

The USPO sole duty is to rubber-stamp any flimsy idea for a fee. It doesn't bother to do any research at all into applications. Instead it trusts the applicant.

The USPO is a world-wide joke.

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The patent, as presented, is overly broad and could apply from paper-doll programs to web pages to MMOs.




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Someone should patent "a method for creating vague patents and suing more substantive companies and/or individuals for infringement of that patent" followed by suing people like this.


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Originally Posted by Snow Globe View Post
The USPO is completely clueless and doesn't even know that prior patents cover what this does, let alone the Internet for the last 20 years.

The USPO sole duty is to rubber-stamp any flimsy idea for a fee. It doesn't bother to do any research at all into applications. Instead it trusts the applicant.

The USPO is a world-wide joke.
...At least way back when you could have your flimsy idea approved by Einstein. Assuming he didn't, you know, steal your idea instead.


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...At least way back when you could have your flimsy idea approved by Einstein. Assuming he didn't, you know, steal your idea instead.
hehe, i see what you did there


 

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Originally Posted by Snow Globe View Post
The USPO is completely clueless and doesn't even know that prior patents cover what this does, let alone the Internet for the last 20 years.

The USPO sole duty is to rubber-stamp any flimsy idea for a fee. It doesn't bother to do any research at all into applications. Instead it trusts the applicant.

The USPO is a world-wide joke.

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The patent, as presented, is overly broad and could apply from paper-doll programs to web pages to MMOs.

It's about to get a LOT worse too.

USPO is moving from "first to invent" to "first to file".

Now what could go wrong there?



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Someone should patent "a method for creating vague patents and suing more substantive companies and/or individuals for infringement of that patent" followed by suing people like this.

Believe it or not, it probably has.



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uhhh, they just described BBS door games from the 80s...


 

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It's about to get a LOT worse too.

USPO is moving from "first to invent" to "first to file".

Now what could go wrong there?

You mean, what could go right?

Put a Ninja Warrior-esque obstacle course infront of the office as the only way inside to file for patent and the ratings make themselves.


 

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I might of cared except for when i went to DDos forums to try and rally some fellow gamer allies to try and support us here most mocked our game and laughed at its impending demise sooo....frell turbine and all its games.


 

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I might of cared except for when i went to DDos forums to try and rally some fellow gamer allies to try and support us here most mocked our game and laughed at its impending demise sooo....frell turbine and all its games.
sounds about right. As many games we mocked games usually inside gameplay here and did nothing when other games died except shrug as someone once said, "meh they wasnt that big of a game anyways" without any regards of the community and how they felt about their game closing. Now it's our turn and I didnt expect all of them to rally to our support with open arms as bad as many here talked about them and didnt nothing to help when other games went down hill.


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sounds about right. As many games we mocked games usually inside gameplay here and did nothing when other games died except shrug as someone once said, "meh they wasnt that big of a game anyways" without any regards of the community and how they felt about their game closing. Now it's our turn and I didnt expect all of them to rally to our support with open arms as bad as many here talked about them and didnt nothing to help when other games went down hill.
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I might of cared except for when i went to DDos forums to try and rally some fellow gamer allies to try and support us here most mocked our game and laughed at its impending demise sooo....frell turbine and all its games.
We didn't care about other games ? LOL We didn't give a rats rear when people playing this game got the axe.

PvP LOL they got what was coming to them.
Nerf HA HA exploiter.
BASE Builder LOL sure they are going to get that done.
Architect problem. Stop them damn people complaining about my farms
AE farms. Get those damn farmers out of MY architect.

CoH closing ? 50 threads about how nice GW2 is.

Edit: And thinking about it the devs did a great job of fostering that. I mean how much trouble would it have been to add a "Farm" tag to the AE searches ?


 

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We didn't care about other games ? LOL We didn't give a rats rear when people playing this game got the axe.

PvP LOL they got what was coming to them.
Nerf HA HA exploiter.
BASE Builder LOL sure they are going to get that done.
Architect problem. Stop them damn people complaining about my farms
AE farms. Get those damn farmers out of MY architect.

CoH closing ? 50 threads about how nice GW2 is.

Edit: And thinking about it the devs did a great job of fostering that. I mean how much trouble would it have been to add a "Farm" tag to the AE searches ?
well....that is the truth there.


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Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks."
I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L!

 

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Why are they specifically targeting Turbine? Shouldn't they sue roughly everyone on the internet?

Let them start with, I don't know, Blizzard and Apple and see how they like the outcome.


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Probably testing the waters. I mean Apple or any other big company would probably slam them with counter suits before they finished talking


 

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Originally Posted by Slaunyeh View Post
Why are they specifically targeting Turbine? Shouldn't they sue roughly everyone on the internet?

Let them start with, I don't know, Blizzard and Apple and see how they like the outcome.
Probably the same reason as why Worlds.com sued NCsoft 1st. If you win, it validates everything. If you loose, you are not all that much out of pocket (effectively)

Once you get your patent *validated* in a court case, it becomes far far harder to get it ruled as an invalid patent in later cases, and as having a valid and "battle proven" patent is very handy, you want an easy win at the start.

All you need to do then, is just prove that they are using it and you basically have a slam dunk case.

If i remember correctly, Worlds.com said that if they won the case, they would go for Blizzard/Linden labs next...