Paragon Fleet in STO

Just wanted to let people know that at STO launch a bunch of CoH players made a fleet.

It is called Paragon Fleet. We are still up and running and currently growing. It is a welcoming place to be with like minded souls and refugees.

The best way to find us (if you are playing Star Trek Online) is to join the global chat channel:

CoX

(case sensitive). Just ask in there if anyone is around to send invites and we'll get you right on board.

Hope to hear from some CoH Captains soon.

BTW, I am @draugadan over there (and here, and in CO, go figure).

Paragon Fleet still has members? Huh. A lot of us ended up leaving and forming a new one because the fleet's creator quit playing and didn't promote anyone to the top spot, so a lot of the permissions were locked.

No, wait, I see what's going on. Yeah, the old fleet was Paragon Fleet, it has since been replaced by the Paragon Expeditionary Fleet.

We've gotten a few more active members since the CoH announcement, which is good for making progress on the fleet starbase (we're close to unlocking Tier 2). I'm hoping we'll be able to stage some fleet run events, like the Borg Special Task Forces. If anyone has tried STO and likes it, please do feel free to request an invite to PEF.

Just joined the chat channel. Although I'm already in a fleet on STO, its great to be able to chat with fellow CoH players, also being able to chat in CO as well is a plus, but 2 character slots ? Ergh!

I'm @Leandro in STO but I'm only level 6 or so. I haven't given it much attention.

Frankly, Star Trek was the game that made me take Cryptic seriously as a game designer again. Champions isn't BAD, but it's severely flawed, infinitely silly and, from comparing the before-and-after... Semi-abandoned. It has a decent character creator and means of picking powers, but there's so much about it that's still flawed. Star Trek is the game that takes itself seriously, offers good writing and actually pretty impressive graphics and gives us a fictional universe that's both relatively open and still filled with backstory.

And I know the CoX channel is cross-game, but it feels like it's mostly Champions players. Is there one that's more specific to Star Trek? I'd love to join that one and chat with you guys... Without necessarily joining fleet. I have a "thing" with in-game guilds in whatever name they take.

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Hmmm, I may just look into that. I'm currently the owner of a fleet modeled after our supergroup here, but the fleet system in that game is painful for a really small group (read: 3 players, one playing only semi-regularly). Even If I keep our fleet, the community of familiar players to chat with would be definitely be nice. Thanks for the heads up!

Is this game good? Do I need to purchase it and then its free or do I just download it ??

Are there different classes to play or species with different abilities?

I know you do, Forbin. But there was a period of time after the system was introduced when it was just me and a couple other people working on the fleet projects.

I was orignally in STO during beta and have been with a fleet since then, so I'm basically committed where I'm at. I did join the CoX channel though.

As for the game... meh. If you have to have everything canon... don't play it. It'll make you spit nails. The flawed canon is one reason why I originally stopped playing, the other was the fact that the game was just severely underwhelming for me. Playable Romulans would likely keep me interested, IF they were done right. The in-game lore for Romulans is so incredibly ridiculous that it's stupid. Major turn off for me. The game is set after the 09 reboot BS, and you have Data alive (didn't he like...explode in Nemesis?) the Duras sisters are alive and one has a child... (um...didn't they like...explode in Generations?) There are just lots of inconsistancies that really make no sense.

The C store. Oh. My. God. Can you get ANY more expensive? 50 bucks real cash for some of the ships. The store is insane, price-wise. There are many missions that are also horrendously bugged and have been since beta. GM's also seem to be non-existent. Tickets can remain open for months before you get a response. I've had a ticket open for almost a year with no response yet. If you're stuck or anything? drop the mission and restart, you won't get a GM response for days to weeks to months. It may be different if you pay for a sub, but from what I have read on the forums and experienced...not bloody likely.

It's an O.K game, but it's nothing even remotely mind blowing. It is also not team friendly. If you ask most people to team they treat you like you're stupid for asking. Also...don't get too far away from your squad leader and certainly don't load into the mission faster than them, it sets everything wonky. When I first got back into the game (a few weeks ago) I teamed with my husband and a friend, one of whom was a lvl 49. They loaded into the mission faster than me, by about a minute. (You have to patch maps and DL some files to come before you can even zone in...) I load in and suddenly we're all at my lvl - 10 - while facing lvl 49 enemy ships. We didn't last long.

The PvE events can be fun, but when you play them... KNOW what you're doing or you'll be verbally lashed and abused into the next year. All of my experiences with those events are as follows: Die even once; miss one objective at all and you will generally see the following:

EFFING NOOB!!! Go EFFING DIE STUPID NOOB. USELSS POS. GDAMN WORTHLESS EFFING NOOB.... And that is the tamer stuff. I almost quit again that day. STO seems to harbor either very immature people or those with a severe superiority complex who think they are the most uber elite gamer in the world. God I wish I was kidding.

I mainly only got back into it because my husband did.

There isn't much to do at max level either. Same old content that you can replay about 100000 times over. You can grind out dilithium...but there isn't much to do. Oh, and if you want quick XP, check the daily events for Mirror Universe runs. I went ftom 43 - 47 in one hour playing through 4 MU's in one hour. The team I was on was spectacular. It also groups you with people you're own level (seems to) so you won't get a ten paired with several 50's for example.

50 is also not that difficult to reach. I went from 3 - 50 in about a week and a half, and I didn't even play all that much. Some of the beginning missions will give you almost 2 levels after each one completes. But if you like playing an entire arc smoothly...WAIT until you're late 20's before starting the Romulan arc. Each mission is for a certain level only, and I was always left 2 - 4k xp short at the end of each, so I had to go grind out cluster missions or PvE crap until I got it. Then I could play the next. It sucked. Same for most of the arc missions really.

There is also so little to do on the KDF side that they start you out at lvl 20. Most of the red side players constantly complain about how little there is for KDF players to even do.

OKay...this turned out way longer than I initially thought it would. It's fine for F2P I suppose, but I sure as hell wouldn't pay for it.

Star Trek was really my first "nerdy" love while I was growing up and still is. Downloaded STO shortly after the announcement. Now I've been spending a lot of time on STO and almost none on CoH the past week or two (and I've been feeling a bit guilty about it). Space combat is great and unique (as far as I've experienced anyway), and while some people dump on the ground combat I find it interesting. Since you've got an away team, it's a bit like playing a mastermind.

By the way, one correction--while ships are divided into 3-4 basic career types, any career can use any type of ship, so there are a lot of crossover possibilities there as well.

Also, we have catgirls! (Though you will need to spend 600 Zen--slightly more than a monthly stipend--to play as one.)

Oh, we all have our nerd-rage buttons. And STO is great in that it manages to press them in one way or another. My biggest problem tends to be the player ships. Cryptic has more or less given the green light to every ship that was ever in Trek (that CBS has rights to use). This leads having ships that are inappropriate for the time period, like the TOS Constitution and its refit, and the NX class from Enterprise. Then, of course, there's the current Temporal Lock Box thing (yeah, if you thought CoH nickle and dimed you, CoH ain't got nothin on STO), which has a chance to award a 31st Century Wells Class timeship. Because letting players use that thing totally makes sense in the context of the setting. And then you've got ship classes that, IMO, would've been retired from the active roster in favor of newer, more robust classes. For example, I always thought that the Excelsior class would eventually be phased out in favor of the Akira as the fleet's new workhorse.

I could go on, but instead I'll just repeat the MST3K mantra and think of something else.

See...that's what I thought. Here's what memory alpha has to say: It is not clear if Lursa's child had been born, and if so, whether he traveled with his mother and perished with her. So I can see how it would be a fuzzy area, it's still a wee bit confusing though.

Yeah, but a comic isn't canon, but I guess many people argue that as much as the new movie not being so (canon), either.

Sela didn't really have a grand group of followers in Unificaton from what I remember, and according to the game lore she was exiled from the homeworld. She wouldn't be accepted as leader, it's a complete load of bunk in my opinion.

Donatra was the commander in Nemesis, and was the Empress of Romulus for a time (novel lore that was touched upon in game briefly.) They use more book lore than anything else for STO, and it can make things very confusing especially if one doesn't closely follow the books. I've read like... 2 ST books in the last decade, so I am not well-versed on book lore and what not. And then game lore screwed with Tomalak, one of my favorite Romulans.

Eh...I just don't like a lot of what the game did.

But I will say that it's somewhat easy to get the hang of. If I can do it than anyone probably can. I was flying my ship like a pro in about a week, and I am far from what could be considered a hard core gamer.