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Who is this guy?? What a jackass...can we get a serious wake up call to this guy?? He is obviously either ignorant or unaware of the circumstances...and this is purely bad PR!

http://my.mmosite.com/801718/blog/it...g_too_far.html


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Don't even bother dignifying it with a link. (You've also been scooped on this one already, FWIW.)

As the saying goes, "Everyone has a right to an opinion. That does not, however, automatically confer the right to be taken seriously." S/he is entitled to make a statement - but getting angry about it only diminishes our cause.

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Well, it's the ignorance...calling us "oblivious and obnoxious gamers"...really?? How much is NCSoft paying this guy?


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Nothing, he's a troll.

He's like the guy who posted here saying he doesn't watch anime because he's not a pedophile.

He's the guy that was behind me tonight in the 12 item or less express checkout lane with a cart full of groceries giving the checkout girl a hard time when she told him to use one of the other lanes, she eventually got the manager who told him to change lines or leave the store and never return. It's the only supermarket in a 15 mile radius. He begrudgingly moved.

There are people in this world that seem to enjoy popping children's balloons, calling the cops on the kids running a lemonade stand because they don't have a permit and generally tear people or causes down around them to make themselves feel better.

This is the internet, they win only if you acknowledge them.


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Hey guys,

Let's not get too worked up about this. People have opinions, and it's not worth your time and effort to get worked up about them unless you really like doing that kind of thing.

Additionally, keep in mind how sites get revenue. Many sites (especially blogs) are supported by ad revenue. The way to make more money is to get more page views, and a great way to get page views is to post really controversial stuff. It gets you a lot of attention, ergo a lot of page views, ergo more ad clicks.

I'm not saying that's the case here, but when you see something that you disagree with, or find objectionable, it's often good to take a step back and think about the bigger picture.

~Freitag


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... That explains why that one guy who wrote the "City of Children" blog post linked to it in the Kotaku article about the Unity Rally ...


 

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Clicked the link. Greeted in top left corner by some emo anime avatar with poor image compression. That's all anyone should need to know to understand whatever follows isn't worth reading.


 

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Originally Posted by planet_J View Post
Who is this guy?? What a jackass...can we get a serious wake up call to this guy?? He is obviously either ignorant or unaware of the circumstances...and this is purely bad PR!

http://my.mmosite.com/801718/blog/it...g_too_far.html
I don't have the time to critique it and I'd like the 2 minutes it took to read it back. That's the problem with everyone having a voice; it includes the ignorant.


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I don't have the time to critique it and I'd like the 2 minutes it took to read it back. That's the problem with everyone having a voice; it includes the ignorant.
Us ignoranies dunt knough betar!


Yeah. The ignorant. Good way to word that when it comes to someone's opinion of a game they obviously dislike, and care to share views about while also reaching out with an open minded question at the end about how those reading feel. Including the people his words impacted, and the writer has not moderated a single post in the flame war that ensued.

=) I'd say he's a pretty cool guy.


 

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I make it a point not to care overly much about the opinions of people who both do not indent paragraphs and don't understand how to use white space.


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Please consider doing yourself and us a favor, and deleting the link in the OP. No, not to censor yourself. Please realize you're HELPING that guy. Right now is not the time to be focused on whether people like that are right. Right now is the time to believe in ourselves and do what we've always done--demand what we want as customers. Paragon Studios never told us to stop doing that, and never wanted us to stop doing that. Why should we change now, because of some dude's blog? The answer is obvious. We shouldn't.

The energy that it takes to get worked up over some jackass on the Internet--think about it--where does that energy ever go? What does it DO? What are you LEFT with? In the end, you're left with nothing but lost time; and lost time means lost opportunities. Especially right now.

There are a dozen "Calls to action" by the Titan Network littered throughout this forum that would only make you feel GREAT if you responded to them, or came up with your own ways to help. The same energy expenditure, but for something that'll raise our odds of keeping our game and community with every extra person who helps. In most cases, just by TYPING STUFF!

Or, yeah, you can like, sit at your computer and be angry about jackasses on the Internet. And type away about that. Choice is yours. But I really think it should be an easy choice.


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Us ignoranies dunt knough betar!


Yeah. The ignorant. Good way to word that when it comes to someone's opinion of a game they obviously dislike, and care to share views about while also reaching out with an open minded question at the end about how those reading feel. Including the people his words impacted, and the writer has not moderated a single post in the flame war that ensued.

=) I'd say he's a pretty cool guy.
Ignorant - Lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular

Considering how he describes the situation and the playerbase and his factual errors (ignoring that WoW offers limited F2P), it is obvious that the author is lacking knowledge surrounding the subjects he addresses. That fits the very definition of ignorant.


 

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Hey guys,

Let's not get too worked up about this. People have opinions, and it's not worth your time and effort to get worked up about them unless you really like doing that kind of thing.

Additionally, keep in mind how sites get revenue. Many sites (especially blogs) are supported by ad revenue. The way to make more money is to get more page views, and a great way to get page views is to post really controversial stuff. It gets you a lot of attention, ergo a lot of page views, ergo more ad clicks.

I'm not saying that's the case here, but when you see something that you disagree with, or find objectionable, it's often good to take a step back and think about the bigger picture.

~Freitag
1. I'm saying that's the case here.

2. People also love to think their voice represents something important.A little bit of that is present in everyone who posts anything public (like, for example, this post) but when the best you can come up with is an amirite? post asking people to discuss your negative viewpoint of other people, that's just sad.

3. Its a blog that recently averages 400 page views per article. On Earth. I could get more people to read a blog if it was open to family only.

Here's my response to the article, which I will do here rather than there for the benefit of readers not wanting to go there:

This be the article in question, not me channeling the voice of guacamole bean dip:
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To start off with, I would like to say that I think that I’m a reasonable person. Just as food, popular trends and bizarre fashion statements have a shelf life, so do video games. From MOBA’s to MMORPG’s, games have a shelf life where they eventually are considered outdated, out of touch and even unprofitable. Not to say that old games have to start hemorrhaging money in order to be shut down, but like every good business model, there needs to be more than just staying in the black.
If a company spends $99 dollars a month on a product and only gets $100 in return, then technically they are profitable. Not to say that they are getting anywhere near the actual return they want, but they are still in the black. As the game industry has seen its fair share of hostile protesters, such as the attack on BioWare with the Take Back Mass Effect debacle, so we see it now with NCSoft shutting down City of Heroes.
In a statement made by the cooperation, it has been said that they are shutting down Paragon Studios “in a realignment of company focus and publishing support.” Considering the release of Guild Wars 2 by another partnered studio, ArenaNet, it can be safe to assume that NCSoft will be redirecting more focus on their newest buy-to-play MMO and shutting down the F2P 8-year old one.
Still, this logical business decision is now the target of yet another uprising by fans that seem to want to have their cake and eat it too. The current outcry reflects that latest mindset of the loudest bunch of oblivious and obnoxious gamers that I’ve ever had the pleasure of hearing from. Call me crazy, but I’m neither surprised nor upset when a game that has reached its peak comes to a dignified end.
So far, the arguments from those who are tweeting up #SaveCoH seem to circle the drain of not only wanting to keep the barely profitable and dated title, but they are also claiming that it’s not even about the game. In the case the argument leans towards how it’s ‘really’ about the community, though last I checked, this is the internet. There are plenty of fansites for ‘deceased’ games out there who keep a great community of fans. Take Phantasy Star Online, who has keep a highly active fan-run forum since the Dreamcast version.
With NCSoft already holding onto one failed subscription-based game, AION, it’s doubtful that they’ll keep the servers on for the handful of players who do subscribe much like how Star Wars Galaxies shut down. The current success of Guild Wars 2 has made waves and a good business decision would be to cut the fat in order to redirect resources to what is making the most money. While it’s always sad to see a studio close, this should not insight such rage in causal players, at best. Community is not limited to in-game activities just as avatars don’t make up who you are. Well, maybe they do in Second Life…
While one can compare ages of CoH with a World of Warcraft, you can also argue that every single player in WoW pays the subscription fee. Sure, they have limited trial accounts, but you can bet that Blizzard makes a minimal bank on every player outside of trails. That’s not something that can be said with a optional F2P game that depends on the spending habits and would-charities of a player. If you really want to be mad about something, you should be made at the demands of the F2P model and management of in-game cash shop models instead.
Still, who is the real bully here? Is NCSoft, who were heroes in their own right with the hyped up release of Guild Wars 2 to the raging fanatics, now the bad guys over a smart financial move? Perhaps it’s the casual gamer, who doesn’t want to pay a subscription fee but then demands that a game remain active, even though the needs of the salaries of studio works and server maintainers still need to be met? Maybe it’s even those who pay their fees, feeling special because they don’t ‘have to pay, but do it anyway’? In either case, I believe it would be foolish (and highly unlikely that they even would) if NCSoft kept the game open with their latest string of game releases including GW2, Blade & Soul and hints of a new Lineage on the horizon. Thoughts?
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Why..because he/she makes sense? I have to agree with Arcanaville. As much as I'd like CoH to continue the F2P model was it's undoing. Still, good luck with your efforts to keep it alive.


 

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Why..because he/she makes sense? I have to agree with Arcanaville. As much as I'd like CoH to continue the F2P model was it's undoing. Still, good luck with your efforts to keep it alive.
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Additionally, keep in mind how sites get revenue. Many sites (especially blogs) are supported by ad revenue.
Fortunately, I use AdBlock!

But yes, I looked at the website yesterday and noted the awkward grammar and odd formatting (hint: make paragraphs stand out more!) and dismissed it as a 10 year old and his blog. Nothing to get worked up about at all.


 

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Yeah, people will have their opinions that this game (and quite possibly other games) suck. That's their opinion. They're only right if you agree with them.


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I don't see any reason to get too upset by this. If I was not already a player and heard that an old game was being shut down after years of running and a disappointing f2p transition, I'd think they were a bit nuts too. Of course that really wasn't what happened here--the game was shut down in the middle of development with no warning, with people losing money paid for subscriptions and points, and with no real consideration showed for the playing base at all. This guy likely has no way of knowing that and assumes that the game was shut down after slowly dying down and updates tapering off, like what sometimes happens. If that were the case, he'd be right.


 

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Originally Posted by Hell Razer View Post
Why..because he/she makes sense? I have to agree with Arcanaville. As much as I'd like CoH to continue the F2P model was it's undoing. Still, good luck with your efforts to keep it alive.
You may wanna do some research before saying Freedom was our undoing F2P and micro-transactions are what a lot of MMOs are moving to...as it is more profitable

And Psst Arcanaville said /jranger which means they do not agree with the blog


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...and the writer has not moderated a single post in the flame war that ensued.
That qualifies as a flame war? Seriously? The vast majority of the comments I read were at least civil, and most were downright polite. I didn't see a single "yo' momma" or "GOD WILL SMITE THEE!!". This community never ceases to amaze me.