It depends on the mission, and it's always been pretty unreliable. Last night I had a hell of a time finding the last drop point for Drop off the canisters of Outbreak because of this so-called "feature". However, it seems to work consistently on paper/radio missions.
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It has never shown the location of hostages.
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For enemies, it shows the last X% of enemies on the map. I think X is 1, but I'm not sure. If the map is really small, one enemy on the map can be more than the cutoff value, meaning that they'll never show up.
For glowies, it only shows the last one, and only if it's ALSO the last objective on the map. Some optional objectives, like boss fights, hostages and destructables can count towards this count, even if they aren't mission required. The mission DarkGob mentions failed to show the last glowie because he didn't defeat the named boss.
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Ah, yes. The "secret objective" that shows up from time to time. I understand that missions that don't list all objectives have been requested to be /bugged.|
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The mission DarkGob mentions failed to show the last glowie because he didn't defeat the named boss.
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Except I did. I defeated Snow Maiden long before I found that last stupid box.|
Originally Posted by Roderick
The mission DarkGob mentions failed to show the last glowie because he didn't defeat the named boss.
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You are correct about the "hidden objectives" thing, but sometimes the feature fails even despite that.
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Odd. I've never run into that, when I've been paying attention at least.
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Except I did. I defeated Snow Maiden long before I found that last stupid box.
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Is it a percentage? I thought it was simply when there was a single spawn (or remnant thereof) - I've seen large clusters of 10+ show before, but it never shows when all that's left is two minions on opposite ends of the map.
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Originally Posted by Roderick
For enemies, it shows the last X% of enemies on the map. I think X is 1, but I'm not sure. If the map is really small, one enemy on the map can be more than the cutoff value, meaning that they'll never show up.
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Yeah, I have seen upon occasion a huge cluster of red arrows at the last. I have also seen a huge cluster of GREEN arrows with white dots on them (which is supposed to be MY location) show up and often have some of them move. Some were apparently my teammates, but often it was the last spawn.|
Originally Posted by Hopeling
Is it a percentage? I thought it was simply when there was a single spawn (or remnant thereof) - I've seen large clusters of 10+ show before, but it never shows when all that's left is two minions on opposite ends of the map.
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So I guess things are not quite as smooth as hoped, but it is not just me.
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Yeah, in my experience it's always been the last spawn, and once it shows the last spawn any NEW spawns from ambushes will also show up. I don't think the feature itself is unreliable, it's just that so many missions have hidden objectives that keep it from showing the "Last One". I've seen a few missions where it seemed that the hidden objective was "defeat all" so that clearing the map would be the only way to make it show that last glowie. But that's why I love demoradar so much. |
Originally Posted by Hopeling
Is it a percentage? I thought it was simply when there was a single spawn (or remnant thereof) - I've seen large clusters of 10+ show before, but it never shows when all that's left is two minions on opposite ends of the map.
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I cannot answer the question with certainty - but I think I can provide a link to a tool (that's not a violation of EULA) that should help with those hard to find hostages and what-not.
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A similar program is CoHRadar, it's very similar except it shows some things that the other program doesn't. Also it runs on java so I think it'll work for Macs.
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Originally Posted by Ukaserex
I cannot answer the question with certainty - but I think I can provide a link to a tool (that's not a violation of EULA) that should help with those hard to find hostages and what-not.
http://www.futurama-madhouse.net/misc/blinkies/ |
This feature has been a bit unpredictable since day one, at least for me. Usually it works just fine, but often it doesn't.
I've noticed that sometimes the last spawn will not show up on the map if you're too far away from them. Then when you get closer, the red arrow suddenly appears on the map. Not sure why distance matters.
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I was just going to say this. There seems to be a limiting "distance from your character" involved, too, beyond which you do not see the last one of anything. I've been noticing this lately on large maps.
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Originally Posted by Red_Raccoon
This feature has been a bit unpredictable since day one, at least for me. Usually it works just fine, but often it doesn't.
I've noticed that sometimes the last spawn will not show up on the map if you're too far away from them. Then when you get closer, the red arrow suddenly appears on the map. Not sure why distance matters. |
It's never worked correctly as far as I can tell.
Sometimes it will show it to me, other times it won't. Sometimes it will show me spots on the map where I've already killed everything, other times it will show me something on the map that there never was anything at.
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It also likes to show waypoints for critter ambushes for some reason, often labeled Target or ????. I couldn't say if that affects the display threshold, it's just another potential point in the "always been buggy" list.
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A while back, a QOL feature was introduced: if the mission is a Defeat All, etc., then when you get down to the very last one, the location of the Last One will be shown on the map.
Lately, this has not seemed to work for me. The location of the last vampyre, the last hostage, the last wandering dork who hides in the fold of a cave wall... none of them have shown up.
When the game launched, the idea was to have as much of a time sink as possible, ergo office buildings with irrational layouts, meandering layer cake cave and nearly every mission a Defeat All. Such things were extremely problematic when you figured you could squeeze in a mission, only to spend 15-20 extra minutes hunting the Last One.
Has this feature now bugged, partially or totally, so that it does not function? Does it no longer function on the older content?
I would rather not simply forget about all such missions, but this is a pain in the neck I could do without. Any word on if "Show The Last One" is bugged?
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