Recipe Junk Folder


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One thing that I spend a lot of time doing is going through
recipe drops and deleting out the unwanted/undesirable recipes. Lets face it, 90% of the recipe drops in the game you cant give away, and the generic IOs are useless at 50 once you slot out your toon with sets. ( or memorize them ) I could really vent about the temp power drops - but that's another thread.

My suggestion is to add links to the right click menu for recipes:
- "This is Junk"
- "This is not Junk" ( for when you change your mind )
These options will be saved to your local settings file.

Once an item is marked as junk, it will automatically be routed to a new Junk Folder under recipes. A new button will need to be added "Clear Junk Folder",
which automatically deletes all recipes in that folder upon confirmation.


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not a bad idea. usually I have to delete them anyways. Some sit on the market even with starting bid 1 inf for weeks before I get tired of looking at them and delete them. When that spot is open another takes it's place. Sometimes I wish they add an auto delete/reject option for some of them, especially them common temp powers.


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not a bad idea. usually I have to delete them anyways. Some sit on the market even with starting bid 1 inf for weeks before I get tired of looking at them and delete them. When that spot is open another takes it's place. Sometimes I wish they add an auto delete/reject option for some of them, especially them common temp powers.
Yeah, I considered an auto-delete option, but the junk folder is a little safer. You can look at least look at them before purging them from inventory.


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yeah nothing like accidentally clicking auto delete on something ya been waiting to drop for a long time.


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Meh to me it's just an option that would needlessly clutter the system. It is not that hard to delete YOUR unwanted recipe. I make millions off of what you have stated are "useless" recipes so they are not useless to everyone

Gonna /unsign as I do not think it is needed as the ability to delete them already exists and a new "junk" folder isn't really needed.


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Meh to me it's just an option that would needlessly clutter the system. It is not that hard to delete YOUR unwanted recipe. I make millions off of what you have stated are "useless" recipes so they are not useless to everyone

Gonna /unsign as I do not think it is needed as the ability to delete them already exists and a new "junk" folder isn't really needed.
well wish there was a button to funnel it all to you but sending each one by email isnt very effective with the amount. And while there is delete persay. I dont see why it cant be more effcient. Either by above idea or even allowing to select more than one. instead of going one by one by one by one by one. And them languishing on the market even at 1 inf just takes up space that could be use to sell other things, or sitting in inventory. And I'm not speaking for everyone. Nothing is ever useless to everyone, one man's junk is another man's treasure.


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Hmm, well, rather than a specific 'junk folder', why not just have a tab or two that are customizable like the chat tabs? Just have one folder for 'All', one folder for 'Temp Powers/Costumes' and one folder for 'Purples'.

If you're savvy, maybe you'd customize one folder to include basic IOs/temps/costumes/hold/fear/immobilize/stun recipes, another for all and another for rares/purples. Technically, the folders are just filters on your inventory window, we could just proliferate the dropdown menu from the crafting window with options like "Hide Basic IOs", "Hide Crafted IOs", "Hide Temps/Costumes".


 

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Originally Posted by Leo_G View Post
Hmm, well, rather than a specific 'junk folder', why not just have a tab or two that are customizable like the chat tabs? Just have one folder for 'All', one folder for 'Temp Powers/Costumes' and one folder for 'Purples'.

If you're savvy, maybe you'd customize one folder to include basic IOs/temps/costumes/hold/fear/immobilize/stun recipes, another for all and another for rares/purples. Technically, the folders are just filters on your inventory window, we could just proliferate the dropdown menu from the crafting window with options like "Hide Basic IOs", "Hide Crafted IOs", "Hide Temps/Costumes".
something like that too could work.


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Eh, it's not that big a deal to unload on the market. And I really don't see the devs giving us a virtual storage increase.


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Eh, it's not that big a deal to unload on the market. And I really don't see the devs giving us a virtual storage increase.
not anytime in the future but doesnt make it any less of a decent idea.

lot of things start off as abstract ideas. hell even the number of ehancement storage was said never was goign to happen. now you can buy up to 50 slots. Fro man idea that been floating around since i6 at least and plenty times said "wah bad idea, never going to happen, what for, it's uneeded, too much work. etc."


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hell even the number of ehancement storage was said never was goign to happen. now you can buy up to 50 slots.
Please don't confuse what players misinterpret being said with what the devs actually said. The number of things the devs have actually said would never happen is very small.

The closest the devs ever came to saying anything about increasing the number of enhancement trays was when they told us we were lucky they decided to allow us to pull 10 enhancements off of a build during a respec when it was first designed.


 

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easy enough to delete the garbage as I go.

what I would like is a 'recycling bin' at various locations throughout the game where people could drop off their unwanted recipes and other players could root through looking for usable stuff....but that isn't very practical either.


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easy enough to delete the garbage as I go.

what I would like is a 'recycling bin' at various locations throughout the game where people could drop off their unwanted recipes and other players could root through looking for usable stuff....but that isn't very practical either.
I thought that's what the Auction House/Black Market and NPC stores are for. Nothing stopping anyone from selling what they think of as "garbage" for 1 inf on the market and if there's no interest there sell it to an NPC store.

Just add an NPC store at the AH/BM for convenience.


 

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Please don't confuse what players misinterpret being said with what the devs actually said. The number of things the devs have actually said would never happen is very small.

The closest the devs ever came to saying anything about increasing the number of enhancement trays was when they told us we were lucky they decided to allow us to pull 10 enhancements off of a build during a respec when it was first designed.
oh I know I'm talking about responses on the post. People come up with ideas, and usually within the first couple of posts, there is one, that comes and say "the devs will never do this or that." "or this or that will never happen" and lo and behold it happens and same people act like they was behind the idea the whole time. Unless the dev specifically come out and says "We aint never ever going to do that, ever." then never say never and even then for those small cases, its not 100% certain.


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Well, as long as you're asking for them to program new systems into the game, why not just ask for an "auto sell" feature that would cause selected drops to instantly sell themselves at NPC store prices?

I don't really see any pressing need for this sort of system because it's not that big a deal to sell things or delete them between missions. I would say it is highly unlikely that anything of this sort will be implemented since it competes with something that's already for sale:
Recipe Inventory Increase, +5 slots for 800 points


 

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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project View Post

Just add an NPC store at the AH/BM for convenience.
A light bulb just went off not sure why I didnt think of that. Now that would seem easy to do, wont take much work and will be relatively out the way. and save the hassle of reclaiming everything that didnt sell back in the slots, assuming they are still there and not filled with useful stuff to just run across town to the nearest npc store.


On the other hand wish there was more easier way to trade items/email. to players who can use my junk instead of the one by one thing/ Like would like to be able to send say I have this recipe going in the trash but some poor sap is looking for those recipes. I would like to be able to bundle them up into one email and send it over.


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Well, as long as you're asking for them to program new systems into the game, why not just ask for an "auto sell" feature that would cause selected drops to instantly sell themselves at NPC store prices?

I don't really see any pressing need for this sort of system because it's not that big a deal to sell things or delete them between missions. I would say it is highly unlikely that anything of this sort will be implemented since it competes with something that's already for sale:
Recipe Inventory Increase, +5 slots for 800 points
I see what ya saying but just because i dont want trash hanging around doesnt mean a bigger trash can will solve the problem especially when it's already tedious to delete the bin piece by piece as is. Tedious being used loosely.


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oh I know I'm talking about responses on the post. People come up with ideas, and usually within the first couple of posts, there is one, that comes and say "the devs will never do this or that." "or this or that will never happen" and lo and behold it happens and same people act like they was behind the idea the whole time. Unless the dev specifically come out and says "We aint never ever going to do that, ever." then never say never and even then for those small cases, its not 100% certain.
I never said it was. I just said that I don't see it happening, and I don't see that there's really any point to it anyway when it's pretty easy to dump your stuff at the market or a vendor between missions (or just delete it as you go).


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I never said it was. I just said that I don't see it happening, and I don't see that there's really any point to it anyway when it's pretty easy to dump your stuff at the market or a vendor between missions (or just delete it as you go).
*whispers* wasnt talking about you. ya response was not a "never" response. It was just a realistic probably wont happen. Meaning that it is likely as it that it wont but that doesnt mean ya said it's absolutely never never going to happen before the token "never dude" gets here. *end whisper*


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oh I know I'm talking about responses on the post. People come up with ideas, and usually within the first couple of posts, there is one, that comes and say "the devs will never do this or that." "or this or that will never happen" and lo and behold it happens and same people act like they was behind the idea the whole time. Unless the dev specifically come out and says "We aint never ever going to do that, ever." then never say never and even then for those small cases, its not 100% certain.
Cool. Just wanted to make sure we were on the same page cuz more than once we've had someone point to a dev stating one thing and trying to claim it means they siad it would "never" happen. I think Power/Weapon customization is the most frequently misquoted feature.

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A light bulb just went off not sure why I didnt think of that. Now that would seem easy to do, wont take much work and will be relatively out the way. and save the hassle of reclaiming everything that didnt sell back in the slots, assuming they are still there and not filled with useful stuff to just run across town to the nearest npc store.


On the other hand wish there was more easier way to trade items/email. to players who can use my junk instead of the one by one thing/ Like would like to be able to send say I have this recipe going in the trash but some poor sap is looking for those recipes. I would like to be able to bundle them up into one email and send it over.

Yeah I don't think any player would object to the email attachments being improved.


 

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Cool. Just wanted to make sure we were on the same page cuz more than once we've had someone point to a dev stating one thing and trying to claim it means they siad it would "never" happen. I think Power/Weapon customization is the most frequently misquoted feature.
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yea I remember that. lol never going to happen. I bet 90% of them aint using stock colors.


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I thought that's what the Auction House/Black Market and NPC stores are for. Nothing stopping anyone from selling what they think of as "garbage" for 1 inf on the market and if there's no interest there sell it to an NPC store.

Just add an NPC store at the AH/BM for convenience.
I'm not going to tie up a valuable market slot for a garbage recipe- neither am I going to bother vendoring something for a few hundred or thousand inf- my game time is too valuable for that.

this would be another mini-system for people to engage- adding 'fun' would make it worthwhile to use. I'm sure some of us marketeers would 'seed' the junkpile with 'good' recipes too- it'd be like an IO treasure hunt.


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I'm not going to tie up a valuable market slot for a garbage recipe- neither am I going to bother vendoring something for a few hundred or thousand inf- my game time is too valuable for that.

this would be another mini-system for people to engage- adding 'fun' would make it worthwhile to use. I'm sure some of us marketeers would 'seed' the junkpile with 'good' recipes too- it'd be like an IO treasure hunt.
Like an all access SG storage bin? Some bloke looking for recipes but low on inf, rifle through the throw aways and may be able to find something he could use that someone else threw away?


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I'm not going to tie up a valuable market slot for a garbage recipe- neither am I going to bother vendoring something for a few hundred or thousand inf- my game time is too valuable for that.
Normally, I hate Nethergoat and wish he'd choke on a can or something but even I know that >_>

You don't put garbage on the market unless you know there's a demand for it. I can understand putting some trash salvage up for 50 (I usually only put stuff up for 50 or more) if only because people need salvage and if no one puts that stuff up, eventually it starts costing 10000 inf when I need it which only goes up and up and up until I'm paying 600,000 for 1 trash computer virus salvage that I know I can get for cheap with AE tickets but don't feel like jumping all the way over there so end up plotting over 5mil on trash because people didn't empty out their salvage bins enough.


That said, I still like the idea of adding filters to our inventory. Right now, I'd like a means of hiding all the salvage 'I can use' (meaning the stuff that can be used to craft the IOs I'm currently holding...the market already tells you when you're trying to sell something you can use) then toss the rest on the market. In the field, I'd filter all the invention and basics and just delete all the temps or costumes. Filter out the invention IOs and delete the low lvl basic ones you don't want.

Sure, you can sell them to an NPC instead, but I don't often like to visit NPCs in the middle of missions or when I'm on a taskforce. Hell, I'm usually deleting stuff while I'm pressing attack buttons. Some people don't like long animating attacks but I feel they have their uses...


 

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Originally Posted by Leo_G View Post
Hmm, well, rather than a specific 'junk folder', why not just have a tab or two that are customizable like the chat tabs? Just have one folder for 'All', one folder for 'Temp Powers/Costumes' and one folder for 'Purples'.

If you're savvy, maybe you'd customize one folder to include basic IOs/temps/costumes/hold/fear/immobilize/stun recipes, another for all and another for rares/purples. Technically, the folders are just filters on your inventory window, we could just proliferate the dropdown menu from the crafting window with options like "Hide Basic IOs", "Hide Crafted IOs", "Hide Temps/Costumes".
This would help some, at least with getting rid of basic IOs. Wouldnt help with me wanting to keep only "good" IOs, like Numinas, LOTG, Aegis, Kinetic Combat, etc. Also, you'd still need a delete all button for each tab, otherwise you're back to individually deleting items out of each stack.


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