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Originally Posted by mauk2 Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words. "Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L!

Hero stats looks kind of risky for computer security. I mean, even though the site look reputable, how do I know it wasnt modified to collect other data off the computer. Who is the source of this program code?

Part of the part looking risky is probably because I dont quite understand how these free code things work, especially when programed to track a particular item or program, which I think (maybe rightfully or wrongly) can easily be turned and used for other methods that is not stated or not of my intentions.

Originally Posted by mauk2 Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words. "Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L!

Because dozens of people on the forums (and possibly hundreds off the forums) run it without there be a rash of identity of theft?

No doubt it is looking at the data stream from the game to the game's servers or vice versa (or both). It being free means someone wanted to provide a tool to others.

well to me this kind of look like some random download site. I'm not even sure what kind of program I'm downloading if I was to do download Herostats. What I gather is that it's freecode thing that some guy made up that access information off the game, and transfer it to a file. Of course they wont say in order to work, ya need cookies, or tracking this and that or might say need to "track cpu settings".

And like a car, just because I have a good alarm system doesnt mean I'ma leave the car in an area that is known for car robberies just because I have an alarm system. Or rather in this case just hand them the keys. Same deal here. Just because I have anti-virus protection that doesnt mean I'm trying to see how good it really is by downloading any ol program, especially ones that is designed to track anything.

I'm not sure about everybody else, but I like my privacy and rather not have all my information all over the net. At all.

Originally Posted by mauk2 Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words. "Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L!

Maybe no one said anything. And just because there isnt a rash of ID theft, doesnt mean it's legit. I havent seen rash of ID theft reports from porn sites but doesnt mean it dont happen. And sometimes it's not just about ID, I just dont like people peeping into my cpu for any reason without me giving explicit permission, whether it's for ads, id theft, or just to see what my cpu is running at.

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No doubt it is looking at the data stream from the game to the game's servers or vice versa (or both). It being free means someone wanted to provide a tool to others.[/QUOTE]

But from what is being decribed in the writing on the site any person with the know how can modify the code. And that part right there dont sit well with me at all. Meaning if a person have the know how, they could modify it to do just about anything once it's on ya system.

I'm not too keen on downloading this program. It just doesnt look right and when I dont egt a good feeling about downloading something or it dont look right, I rather err on the safe side and leave it alone.

If there is another way to track without downloading some suspect program, then I'm all ears but herostats is no go on my cpu.

Originally Posted by mauk2 Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words. "Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L!

Its linked to sourceforge, meaning the code is available if you want to download it, look through it, and compile it yourself.

Sorry, but you're really coming off as beyond reasonably paranoid.

There's one flaw in that logical leap -- if Imaginary Evil Guy downloads it and modifies it for nefarious purposes, how's he going to turn around and UPLOAD IT to that site again? Or how's he going to upload it to your computer?

He's not.

Worrying a reasonable amount about computer security is good, worrying excessively about identity theft and imaginary tracking isn't.

Name your computer "Rumplestiltskin" or something when you boot it up for the very first time when it asks for "Your Name," download Firefox and set it to delete history and cookies when you close your session, get good anti-virus and anti-spyware programs, and call it a day. Nobody's going to easily get "your" information from your IP address, only your ISP's name and city.

You you downloading a copy from some random other person who has compiled it?

Why no, you're not. You're downloading it from the authors, who have put their names on line and would be guilty of both federal and a number of state crimes for putting a trojan out there.

I am sorry, but you're not thinking this through in the least.

I mean, I suppose people coule put their good names up on the credits page and intentionally be stealing from everyone using the program. It is a possibility. Nothing like being completely brazen at times.

Of course the program has only been available in multiple versions over multiple years and one might figure that were it such a false package as you seem to believe it is that someone would have noticed something in all this time.

i wouldnt call it imaginary unless it never happened ever ever before int he history of cpus where some one made a virus that infected someone else computer before rather on purpose or by accident. And since it has happened before, then it's far from imaginary. I dont know anything about this site anymore than I know about some site from Russia with obvious weird coding and just because someone says "oh it's ok" that means I'm suppose to shrug it off and downlaod it. The point being, I dont understand how this thing works and what exactly it does, I know what the sight says, but it sure as hell dont explain exactly how it works, and if I dont understand something I aint downloading it no matter how much anti-virus stuff I have. If I dont understand a site, they may get ISP and city from me just visiting the site and that even makes me a bit uneasy. If someone came to my doorstep and I dont feel right about letting them in, they aint coming in, I dont care if Jesus, Allah, Buddha or the Dahlai Lama, combined was vouching for them.

Originally Posted by mauk2 Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words. "Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L!

Actually I havent seen their name, assuming it's their real names, address, or anything of the likes listed there. Maybe have missed it. looking again. I think I'm thinking this perfectly through. I dont feel right about downloading it, I aint downloading it. What "I dont feel right about downloading something, but what the hell."? nope not me. And given that trojans are out there, apparently them federal and states laws aint stopping many people.

Originally Posted by mauk2 Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words. "Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L!

saying it's linked to sourceforge is no more comforting. I have no idea what is sourceforge is or what it does or anything. Might as well be named Trojan Factory: For all CPU Infection Needs Wholesale.

Originally Posted by mauk2 Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words. "Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L!

The Wikipedia entry for SourceForge--you should read it.

Open source code developed openly.

At this point you can persist in your paranoid delusion if you want to. I am done wasting time on it.

Have at it. it was your choice to enter in the first place. Keep calling it what ever you wish to call it, that's your opinion just as it's my opinion that you obvious dont give a crap about your security and I think you are foolish for it, but that's just my opinion. But that is all irrelevant as I'm not downloading it or anything I dont feel right downloading it. Are you gurantee to buy me a whole new computer if something goes wrong with it or anything I download? I doubt it so it's my choice what I put on my computer and what I dont just as it's yours to let your information flap in the wind.

Originally Posted by mauk2 Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words. "Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L!

"That's your opinion, my opinion is blah, blah, blah."

All opinions are not created equal.

You can believe the Earth is flat, man has never set foot on the Moon, vaccinations cause autism, there is a 50 year-old conspiracy to put Obama in the Presidency of the United States and that is all opnion that someone has advanced and believes in dearly.

I see little to seperate the above from what you are putting forth here.


Bye.

What ever you say. you can put ya opinion on the high and mighty stand all you want, it doesnt change me nor my opinion. But I starting to think your purpose here is now to just insult me, so I'll leave you with this. Your selling of Herostats failed, no commission for you. Go cry in a corner somewhere now and let ya self inflated opinion that you try to pass off as facts comfort you.

Originally Posted by mauk2 Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words. "Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L!

My phones have no linking information. And I have no time to worry about what million of people do. That is not my concern. I didnt agree with their privacy policy so I dont use it. and an email that is only used for this game. What just because ya downloaded it suppose to make me feel better? I dont react nor decide on things just cause people do it. I dont care if ya happen to jump a cliff and survive but I'm not that much of a slave to follow just because you did it. If I'm not comfortable with jumping then I aint doing it.

You all suggested only ONE tool. I looked at the tool, was comfortable using it and so I wont. Look at it on the other end. If I came to you with some program you never heard of or know nothing about and you didnt feel comfortable with what you saw would still down load it even though I goad you on sayign millions of people use it, or saying you're too paranoid? No, ya probably tell me to go screw myself and not download it if ya wasnt comfortable doing so even if you're standard of security was considered too high by me. Do you download everything you see on the web? I doubt it. Why? because some of the stuff probably didnt look safe to do so. Same logic here just a bit different view or level of what is safe but just because it's different doesnt mean it's paranoid. Just as I might just think your sense of security is too loose and you might be the type who would post pics of ya debit card on facebook.

Originally Posted by mauk2 Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words. "Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L!

And with that train of thought, how is it that you downloaded CoH?

I read their policy first, understood it, and was comfortable with it and went for it. Still no linking of personal information that I have to worry about. Mind you when I first bought the game from a brick/motar store it took a year before I was ready to load it onto my computer because at first I wasnt ready and when I was I played. Was it guranteed meaning it was safe? Hell no, but so far so good, no problems but I was comfortable with my choice and that what mattered most. IF they change policy and said we are collecting and selling personal data, then I'm ghosting. If they add something I dont understand, I'm ghosting. Like the option when ya log in, if you press green button it means you read and understand the policy, if not, there is a cancel button and you have option to not partake.

Good feeling and understandment-I'll bite.

Uncomfortable and or not getting the policy-I aint touching it until I get the just of it.

Doesnt look right to me or disagree with policy-Aint touching at all, not now, now yesterday not ever.

About as simple as that.

Originally Posted by mauk2 Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words. "Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L!

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Just to point this out, but anyone with any knowledge of coding can change any program, as long as they have a few minor tools and the knowledge of the coding language.

How do you know your copy of COH wasn't modified? What about your copy of windows? Windows is notorious for being exploited...

Just saying...

Dozen of people saying it's safe...people I dont know, never seen, never conversated with. I've seen more than a dozen spammers say their products is safe, does it mean it is? And no I dont think people are conspiring to harm my computer, I dont know who is or who isnt but that doesnt matter. I dont care how many people trust it, they didnt invest nor have any risk in anything that is my life thus what they say have no bearing at all. What matters is if I dont feel right about it, then I dont feel right about it and until I do, I'm not bothering with it. If and when I feel it's right then I go to it. Maybe if my husband says it safe, then MAYBE I'll try it.

Originally Posted by mauk2 Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words. "Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L!

Who says I have Windows? And maybe the operating system has been modified maybe not. And if that is the case then why is it paranoid to think that maybe the code on that site might have been modified? And you all want me to install it on my computer? Interesting. Like I said, I felt this COH was ok. I might be wrong as all hell. But with Herostats, I dont feel it's right and I might be just as all wrong about that too. But in what logic does it make any sense to do something you dont feel right about? How many programs do you download that dont look right to you? Funny not a single person answered that but I suspect not many people just randomly go around downloading programs they either dont know anything about, or programs they dont think they should be downloading.

Originally Posted by mauk2 Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words. "Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L!