Grant Cover... should it be avoided?


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Got my shield Scrapper to 28 and looking at this power. From what I am understanding, you the person with the power gets the DDR and Slow resistance correct? Is it worth taking for that alone? I don't team a whole lot on that character.


 

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Originally Posted by Ultimus View Post
Got my shield Scrapper to 28 and looking at this power. From what I am understanding, you the person with the power gets the DDR and Slow resistance correct? Is it worth taking for that alone? I don't team a whole lot on that character.
The recharge resistance is nice, and IIRC the DDR can be enhanced. Even if it can't, throw an end reduction IO in there and take advantage of the debuff resistances.


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I would miss the ddr running anything in DA.


 

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I had a similar question in the help channel months ago for my BS/Shield scrapper and was told that it does have some debuff resistance for your character so it is worth it. It also is useful on a team to give your team mates some defense if you ever happen to be teamed up.

Edit: speaking of which, I might move some powers around today and respec so I can take it at the minimum level, 28, so I can use it in the summer event. I took it at level 49 and being exemped to level 29 in the event, it's unusable.


 

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I took it on my Shield/War Mace, and I'm very happy with the result. Can't say it hurts me any -- endurance is fine, and the toon is tough as nails.


 

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I would not skip it if you aren't IOd. If you have IOs and you have enough +rech to double stack (or nearly double stack) Active Defense you "can" skip it. It's a nice set mule for an LotG +7.5 though and it doesn't cost much endurance to run.

It all depends if you have other powers you want to take and if you can fit it into your build.


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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa View Post
The recharge resistance is nice, and IIRC the DDR can be enhanced. Even if it can't, throw an end reduction IO in there and take advantage of the debuff resistances.
the DDR cannot be enhanced in it, i dont think it ever could

the DDR in active defense used to be enhanceable with HOs but that is no longer possible


granted i would still not give up DDR on a defense based toon


 

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You can do without Grant Cover if you must, but if possible, it is worth taking for the debuff resistance alone. The benefit to allies is gravy.

You can certainly afford to put it late in the build, though; at level 28 there are probably more important things to spend your power choices on.


 

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I solo most of the time. My main is a BS/Shield scrapper, and I would never consider skipping Grant Cover. However, I will turn it off to save endurance if I'm not facing anything with -defense, -speed or -recharge.


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I solo most of the time. My main is a BS/Shield scrapper, and I would never consider skipping Grant Cover. However, I will turn it off to save endurance if I'm not facing anything with -defense, -speed or -recharge.
Admittedly most sources of -Speed we face come with -Recharge, but the power doesn't do anything for -Speed.


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Admittedly most sources of -Speed we face come with -Recharge, but the power doesn't do anything for -Speed.
Huh. You're right. Most powers (at least, most that I've used) that grant -Recharge resistance also grant -Speed resistance. I didn't check; I just assumed it followed suit. City of Data agrees with you though.


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the DDR cannot be enhanced in it, i dont think it ever could

the DDR in active defense used to be enhanceable with HOs but that is no longer possible


granted i would still not give up DDR on a defense based toon
It once could be enhanced, but only on certain AT's. It has since been 'fixed' to be un-enhanceable.

But, I always take it; for the DDR and the RDR.


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You can do without Grant Cover if you must, but if possible, it is worth taking for the debuff resistance alone.
You can certainly afford to put it late in the build, though; at level 28 there are probably more important things to spend your power choices on.
Agreed, on both points. however, you will benefit most from ddr. DE wont bother you. Squishy teammates wont get the def benefit unless they are about 2 arms length, which puts them in enemy range. 2 sd melee w overlapping grantc = awesome.


 

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I solo on my shield.

NEVER EVER take it the extra power is to important elsewhere.



If its not for farming solo then take it.


But i never ever team on mine except the bare minimum to get t3 incarnates which is like one or 2 runs every new power that comes out since i have so many threads from farming and shards from farming too.


SO DO NOT take it !!!!


unless you plan on teaming then TAKE it

so it depends on you does it not?


 

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Originally Posted by graystar_blaster View Post
I solo on my shield.

NEVER EVER take it the extra power is to important elsewhere.



If its not for farming solo then take it.


But i never ever team on mine except the bare minimum to get t3 incarnates which is like one or 2 runs every new power that comes out since i have so many threads from farming and shards from farming too.


SO DO NOT take it !!!!


unless you plan on teaming then TAKE it

so it depends on you does it not?
Profound.


 

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Originally Posted by graystar_blaster View Post
I solo on my shield.

NEVER EVER take it the extra power is to important elsewhere.
Run an ITF with only about 70% DDR and then tell me it's not important.

Grant Cover is needed to have enough DDR to not get major cascade failure, and thus should not be skipped.


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