Incarnate access for Premium Players

Since Hybrid powers and higher require advanced incarnate experience, I hope the lower five tiers become open to Premium players. There are certainly some servers that can use the extra player base throughout the day. Perhaps access can become purchasable?

It is purchasable! ... for $14.99 a Month.

Considering Hybrid is regarded as one of the 'weaker'/'less desired' of the slot, locking only Hybrid behind some "Free to Play Incarnate" or "One Time Purchase" deal wouldn't be very, well, enthralling.

Otherwise I'd probably expect it to be at least $50, being generous. It's one of the main draws of VIP (Incarnates, Stipend/Transfers/Tokens, and Free to VIP).

So then why am I paying to be a VIP subscriber ????

Honestly, I do think that they should give some of the Incarnate content away for free.

Allow free/premium players access to the Alpha slot only.

This would give them a taste of Incarnate content and might just entice them to subscribe to try more. And since Shards drop everywhere outside of Incarnate content, there's a LOT of things that the free/premium players would have access to to collect their shards.

Right now, once a free/premium player hits 50, there is very little for them to do except exemp down and run stuff they missed on the way to 50, or make an alt. The problem is, free/premium players only get 2 slots per account, unless they buy more, of course.

Some players when presented with limited options will still play for a while after hitting the level cap, but at some point they want to make progress again. But once they get that second character to 50, they may feel there's just nothing else for them to do and leave.

Sure, they can (and probably do) start up another account and continue making alts that way, but allowing them Alpha slot access would let them progress for quite some time on just one account. And the longer they stick around, the more invested they become in the game.

Not sure how hard it would be to actually allow something like this, but it doesn't seem like a bad idea.

Does it?

A 30 day Incarate license for 50 cents a day, payabale as a lump sum in advance, would be fair.

As much as I like having access to things open to as many people as possible, this is one time I do agree it should remain VIP-only.

I can see, at some point, say, opening it up for a weekend as a sampler to encourage Free and Premium players to subscribe with *very noticable* messages this is ONLY for that weekend, etc, etc. But no licenses or other access.

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For Tier 9 folks like myself, incarnate content is pretty much the only reason left to keep an active VIP subscription. Inventions? Mine never go away. Masterminds, controllers and EATs? Got 'em. Chat channels? I can use them all. Auction house? Not only do I have access, I have remote access.

I could use that $15 a month to buy all the "free for VIP" stuff like powersets and costumes and SSAs and server transfers, and come out ahead in the end since the purchases would be permanent rather than "renting" Time Manipulation and Dark Control like I do now... start giving incarnates away too, and what's my incentive to remain VIP?

Being able to pay base rent! ... or did they allow that?

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Premium players with enough seniority get basically free run of the entire game EXCEPT for incarnate stuff.

That strikes me as more than fair.

Speaking as a Premium player, I'm perfectly fine with not being able to run Incarnate powers at all unless I pay up for it with a subscription, which I would be if I had more disposable income.

At the same time, I personally haven't invested enough total time into the system to bother considering it as an issue when playing. Of my two fifties, the one that's actually going to "use" the powers doesn't even play them off as part of the whole Well canon.


Could I see expanded non-Incarnate endgame content as a request? I'd rather have that.

The incarnate system and 12 free character slots per server are the only incentives to become a VIP. If you take away the Incarnate system from that, what incentive do non-altoholics have to stick around?

I agree with QuarriosSoul. Personally, I don't find the Incarnate powers that big of a deal. Once I hit 50 on a character, it's on to the next one for me. It's not the destination but the journey that I like.

Im sorry but as a long term subscriber and a current VIP I say if you want Incarnate content do what the rest of the community that wants it does..

Pay the 15 bucks a month..

The Incarnate content/powers/slots/etc should remain exclusively VIP. That's the whole point of subscribing really. Everything else you can buy with points and maintain with a premium subscription.

Other than Supergroups. I really think Supergroups should be entirely non-vip. Gate it behind a reward token tier like the AE and Invention system if that makes sense, but there's really no reason one of the greatest means of maintaining a consistent group of players and keeping them in touch should be barred from maintaining a functional base.

50 isn't the level cap anymore.