Water, Bio Armor, Nature... free for vips?
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Agent White,
Posted on: 2012-06-30 13:15 in Player Questions
800 PP's a piece. Ain't it grand?
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
They haven't said one way or the other. it wouldn't be surprising if -one- of them winds up free for VIP, but they usually do that for sets released with major issues. We might have a better idea when I24 hits beta.
Hmm, I seem to remember the free to VIP powersets having that in their descriptions on BETA, but like Andy Pettit I could be misremembering. 
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
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Luckily, Water Blast will most likely come first, and by itself. People will have time to save up more points for the others.
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Originally Posted by Darth_Khasei
800 PP's a piece. Ain't it grand?
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Sorry, that made me really laugh. Out loud. For real, not the internet slangy version... Not sure why, exactly, but thanks for the bout of humour..
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Originally Posted by Darth_Khasei
like Andy Pettit I could be misremembering.
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lol they sure do love their VIPs man... so much they either make us wait 2 months to get it or force us to give even more money for power crepped sets...
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Originally Posted by Darth_Khasei
800 PP's a piece. Ain't it grand?
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Whining about everything since 2006.
Ammo switching for Dual Pistols was my idea:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=135484
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A new powerset every 2 months is pretty amazingly awesome compared to any other time in the game's history pre-Freedom, and that's before even including Time, Dark Control, and any other future free-to-VIP sets.
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Originally Posted by Vel_Overload
lol they sure do love their VIPs man... so much they either make us wait 2 months to get it or force us to give even more money for power crepped sets...
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Don't point that out. It destroys their argument!
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Originally Posted by Hopeling
A new powerset every 2 months is pretty amazingly awesome compared to any other time in the game's history pre-Freedom, and that's before even including Time, Dark Control, and any other future free-to-VIP sets.
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As if that'd actually stop them from trying it |
Originally Posted by Reppu
Don't point that out. It destroys their argument!
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Yeah. People making rants rarely let the facts or the truth stop them. |
Originally Posted by Agent White
As if that'd actually stop them from trying it
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It's easy to make an educated guess on whether a powerset will be free for VIPs, or paid for all:
-Free for VIP sets have no new animations, or very simple ones. New VFX and SFX are usually simpler than those in pay sets. There won't be any new power mechanics, or if there are, they're already being worked on for other things (Time's Heal over Time has been used in several other places, and its bonuses to buffs and debuffs are the same mechanic as Disintegrate and Fiery Embrace). Free sets are usually first mentioned in the Issue Overview of the Issue they'll release with.
-Paid sets have new animations for most or all powers, The VFX are often "over the top" (look at Nature, for example), and there are often new mechanics. Paid sets are often announced well in advance of their release, to build hype.
With all of the above in mind, I feel confident in saying that all three of the recently announced sets will be paid for.
@Roderick
Hm... I'm not sure that holds. Time's new mechanic (Delayed/Accelerated) was, as you say, the same mechanic as Beam Rifle's (Disintegration), and they came out at the same time. Between the two sets, Beam had much simpler FX and animations (all its powers are near-identical in both animation and FX; Time has lots of new FX and a new animation in Chrono Shift). Time was VIP, Beam was purchase-only.
I agree that the three sets on beta now will probably be purchase-only, but I'm not convinced that the criteria you've named are particularly good. Also, we've only had 2 VIP sets so far, which simply makes it hard to extrapolate any pattern to them.
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Well back in my day we had to cobble together our own powersets from old shoelaces, bedsprings, chewing gum and empty soda bottles while the devs chucked throwing stars and super sharp pencils at us to keep us on our toes- so count yer blessings!
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Originally Posted by Vel_Overload
lol they sure do love their VIPs man... so much they either make us wait 2 months to get it or force us to give even more money for power crepped sets...
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Free-to-VIP sets have always been included with an issue release. Every set published between issues has been everyone-pays. These three sets haven't been announced to be tied with any issue (yet).
Additionally, free-to-VIP sets are marked in Paragon Market as VIP content, and do not require purchase before using them. None of these are marked VIP content, and all of them require "purchase" (for 0pp on test) before using them.
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The new mechanic had to be paid for somewhere*. Also, you're neglecting the modeling and texturing of a new weapon set when quantifying the FX of Beam Rifle - that's a significant expenditure of resources.|
Originally Posted by Hopeling
Hm... I'm not sure that holds. Time's new mechanic (Delayed/Accelerated) was, as you say, the same mechanic as Beam Rifle's (Disintegration), and they came out at the same time. Between the two sets, Beam had much simpler FX and animations (all its powers are near-identical in both animation and FX; Time has lots of new FX and a new animation in Chrono Shift). Time was VIP, Beam was purchase-only.
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*Edit to add: Beam Rifle used the mechanic in more powers, and had a more complex version, due to Disintigration Spread.
@Roderick
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I thought it was one of the quotes of the century. That Roger Clemens can be a funny guy. |
Originally Posted by Madadh
Sorry, that made me really laugh. Out loud. For real, not the internet slangy version... Not sure why, exactly, but thanks for the bout of humour..
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The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
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So I didn't misremember...Yay!
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Originally Posted by Aggelakis
None of these are marked VIP content, and all of them require "purchase" (for 0pp on test) before using them.
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The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
Well back in my day we had to cobble together our own powersets from old shoelaces, bedsprings, chewing gum and empty soda bottles while the devs chucked throwing stars and super sharp pencils at us to keep us on our toes- so count yer blessings!
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Has it been announced if any of these sets will be free to subscribers, or are they all going to be pay-to-play?