I dont want to be controversial but...


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Would it be controversial to say I am pig sick of iTrials?

I know people want the badges and the ixp et al but some people these days just take them FAR too seriously. God forbid you make a mistake like accidently using an AOE on mission two of MoM or slip up and target a camera accidently on mission one of TPN and WOE BETIDE anyone who runs ahead when bomb hunting on the Underground or attacks the bunkers too early during a Keyes!

I've been on iTrails when someone (not me) has made a mistake and the remarks and attitude from the rest of the league and the leader has genuinely surprised me! This is, after all, only a game. Are we not meant to be enjoying ourselves? Yes its disappointing if we dont succeed or miss that badge we've all been chasing but thats the whole point of a challenge isnt it?

Yes I know I should be watching chat for leader commands but thats a bit bloody difficult when you're up to your eyeballs in +3 Praetorian Guard all of which want to hand you your a** on a plate! And guess what? I'm a male and I cant multi-task!!

So I have decided to give iTrials a wide berth for the time being and with this in mind I have created two or three new characters in both Paragon and the Rogue Isles and playing them through rediscovering all the old content that I had long forgotten!

Do you know I am actually enjoying myself! I'd forgotten how much fun the Frostfire mission is and I STILL get a sense of achievement from taking him out solo. The four Faultline arcs are still a joy to play and while Croatoa is not my favourite area in the game, its arcs are still refreshingly different. Even the REALLY old content arcs like On the Run, The Terra Conspiracy, The Library of Souls and The Revenant Hero Project still have a certain charm to them and, imho, the Villain arcs are even better.

Am I the only person out there who feels like this? Perhaps I am, in which case feel free to file my opinion under "Crazed Ramblings of a Madman". But if you also feel that iTrials are no longer fun then let me know.

What are everyone elses views?


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I relaly enjoy itrials most of the time but I think it's a brilliant idea and indeed sometimes necessary to have a break from them. I'm doing the same. Let me know in-game if you want to team redside sometime I have a mid-twenties corr I need to level and I'd love some company doing it


 

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My Corr is at 29 at the moment. Shes DP/Poison and I have a love/hate relationship with her. I do nothing about bi**h about how squishy she is yet for some reason.... I cant stop playing her


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Your not the only person to be sick of them, but I think that were in the minority. I personally am not that keen on end game content, and enjoy getting my lowbies up and discovering their powers. I find that really difficult to do since the time period on which I play is dedicated to itrial runs on Defiant. Most of the regular players do the itrials, which means either I play itrials to have fun with other people, or solo on my own and not have as much fun.

The people on defiant are very nice, but they can get a bit heated at someone who doesnt listen and charges into a bomb, costing an entire league the badge. Its happened before, but we didnt tear the guy a new hole, even if some wanted to. What tends to get peoples backs up are the ones that dont listen at all, despite the constant tells, and spamming of the chat channels.


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You're not alone.

I found the iTrials to be an amusing distraction at first but now I don't go near them. I play to be a hero or villain, not Generic Character 0026 beating on a sack of HP with cheating mechanics.

I too wish that there were more people about levelling their characters rather than grinding endgame raids. Right now I'm trying to complete every story arc listing in Ouroboros on my Warshade and having a great time doing so, even on the really old ones.


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my corr is at 29 at the moment. Shes dp/poison and i have a love/hate relationship with her. I do nothing about bi**h about how squishy she is yet for some reason.... I cant stop playing her :d
qft


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if you can think of another way to get threads emp and astral merits im sure everyone open to suggestions


maybe make available in market or in lvl 50 missions?


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I remember my first TPN. I had no idea what I was doing but I was sure that attacking certain things was a no-no because of badge reasons. When one of the citizens threw a Molotov cocktail at me, leaving the ground on fire.

I never fought back, but I was instantly accused of using "burn" to attack the civilians.

Why that person felt it necessary to call me a "****" over this I'll never understand.

At the end of the trial I quickly left kinda laughing because I knew my friends were waiting to "dogpile" on that person.


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Originally Posted by Cien_Fuegos View Post
if you can think of another way to get threads emp and astral merits im sure everyone open to suggestions


maybe make available in market or in lvl 50 missions?
To be honest I no longer consider emps and astrals the be-all-and-end-all. For me its the journey to 50 thats fun not the endless grind after you get there. I have 1 toon with everything unlocked and I will probably take her down the full incarnate path as and when I feel like it.

With my other toons, I'll unlock Alpha certainly because I actually quite enjoy Ramiels arc and getting T4 alpha through shards may be slow but at least theres a certain amount of variety to it with the WST etc and actually making a powerful toon WITHOUT incarnates is still a full challenge I am up for.

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I remember my first TPN. I had no idea what I was doing but I was sure that attacking certain things was a no-no because of badge reasons. When one of the citizens threw a Molotov cocktail at me, leaving the ground on fire.

I never fought back, but I was instantly accused of using "burn" to attack the civilians.

Why that person felt it necessary to call me a "****" over this I'll never understand.

At the end of the trial I quickly left kinda laughing because I knew my friends were waiting to "dogpile" on that person.
This is my point exactly! For some reason iTrials just bring out the worse in people. Can you remember getting that much flack for being the first to die on an MoSTF? Even if it was your fault?

One of my less-than-brilliant moments was getting all the way to the flyer on an MoSTF and then I got two shotted and died instantly (this was back in the day before incarnates and when the MoSTF was one of the biggest challenges in the game)! It was my fault. I was playing a controller and got too close! The team had every right to have a go at me but they were cool. Their attitude was "Maybe next time". Can you imagine what would have happened if I'd have made a similar error on an iTrial?


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This is my point exactly! For some reason iTrials just bring out the worse in people. Can you remember getting that much flack for being the first to die on an MoSTF? Even if it was your fault?
Exactly. CoH, to me, has always been about feeling like a superhero playing in a team with other superheroes, not like a soldier in an army of demi-gods. Because that's how I experienced the iTrials, and I think many people do. I've also heard people referring to the trials as farms a lot, only doing them for the shinies and whatnot ("I need that badge", or "I need that levelshift") , and I personally believe it's those aspects of iTrials that come with a shift in attitude from the players as well. Some like that, some don't.

I don't participate in iTrials. At all. Some people may find that odd, but I play this game to relax and I like it when other players are easygoing as well. I don't care about team wipes if everyone is still having fun. Some people have different preferences and that's okay too, ofcourse.

Yes, there's plenty to do in this game besides the trials. I solo, I team and I do plenty of taskforces while I slowly build up my character. For instance, I did that good old Frostfire last sunday with a full team (on my Dark/Kin controller, Steel Sorcerer) and I agree the old content is still a lot of fun.

I'm just trying to say there's a lot more to CoH than just the endgame, and as long as the devs provide us with new content that isn't yet another iTrial I'm perfectly happy staying a VIP.


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I remember at one point and time I think it was Positron that was asked "why did you design the game this way?" or something to that effect, and I think his response was "because I wanted a game that didn't do all the annoying things WOW did"

...well guess what?

...


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First hand experience of being excluded from a trial...on Union...

*sigh*


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its not the trials thtas a bad thing, just union is over elitist now and some things are barred off, from others achieving through external means.

what my point is, lets just go back to old days and not this idea of "got it first, better than you" childish paradigm that coh has come to be.

but hey im game for some lowleveling with any people whos not too stuck up to not invite me.

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I refuse to play with people who act like jerks during play, period. I'm playing to have fun, this isn't a second job for me. I'm not going to treat it like one. If someone messes up and we don't get a badge (oh no!) I think we'll live. It's not like we only get one shot at this.

If someone decides to get verbally abusive, either they leave the team or I do. Life's too damn short to deal with someone's emotional meltdown over a video game.


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I refuse to play with people who act like jerks during play, period. I'm playing to have fun, this isn't a second job for me. I'm not going to treat it like one. If someone messes up and we don't get a badge (oh no!) I think we'll live. It's not like we only get one shot at this.

If someone decides to get verbally abusive, either they leave the team or I do. Life's too damn short to deal with someone's emotional meltdown over a video game.

2nd this post


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i dont care for end game stuff that much. never had and probably never will.
it just boils down to the time back in the day on my 1st 50 i had, ene/emp defender.
we were doing a tf and i dont remember which one it was, but the team pulled a leeroy jenkins and ran into a big bunch of mobs and they started dying quicker than i could rez them and they ripped me a new one.
because of that experience,it has got me turned off of doing anything endgame or for teaming in general.


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i dont care for end game stuff that much. never had and probably never will.
it just boils down to the time back in the day on my 1st 50 i had, ene/emp defender.
we were doing a tf and i dont remember which one it was, but the team pulled a leeroy jenkins and ran into a big bunch of mobs and they started dying quicker than i could rez them and they ripped me a new one.
because of that experience,it has got me turned off of doing anything endgame or for teaming in general.
I find it's always better to play with friends rather than random strangers so mistakes are more forgivable, but I realize it's not always possible.

I am a little curious, in any failed stuff I've done, I've never had people ripping out the person who failed. People just hold it on, go "oh well", and go on to complete it if it was a Mo run, or reform the league or team for another go if there's enough time. But then, this is when people vaguely know each other due to being in the same channels (of almost full channels, it's unlikely you will know EVERYONE well). Is the things you mention when the team consists of absolute strangers?


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yes it was. it was a PUG. ill admit im not good at being a healer, but at the time i had just came from UO and wanted to play something with a heal in it. and honestly i really didnt try any of the other power sets until cov came out. but now i do know a good bit bout power sets better than i did back then.
and i know i shouldnt let that one bad experience turn me off of endgame content and teaming in general.
there are some good people in the coh community imo.


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There are a fair few good people in the community, unfortunately it's the small minority of donkey-hats that spoil it for everyone else. Human nature also tends to make us remember and dwell on the bad experiences rather than the good ones.

Being objective I've had a mixture of bad, good and really superb experiences through out my time on CoX and that includes teaming and mixing with other players at all levels of the game including the Trials. I will admit, there was a time when the number of unpleasant people seemed to be on the increase, but looking back I wonder if that was simply a symptom of me growing weary of the game and every single set back appearing worse than it was.

I did a Sunday afternoon of iTrials when I came back on which included 3 successful ones and one failed Keyes attempt. No one really said an awful lot, but certainly there was nobody in full on brag or rage mode.

It's also worth mentioning that of every MMO I've played (and in the three years I've not played CoX I've tried a whole lot) this one is STILL the one with the best community, which is largely why I keep coming back to it.


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It's also worth mentioning that of every MMO I've played (and in the three years I've not played CoX I've tried a whole lot) this one is STILL the one with the best community, which is largely why I keep coming back to it.
This is true for me as well. Barring the possible exception of Phantasy Star Online (seriously, it had a word select so you could communicate with people across the globe even if you can't speak their language and vice versa), City of Heroes basically has the best ingame community player base out of all online games I've played so far. Out-of-game is pretty much the same. You don't get rampant trolling or people talking smack to each other on the official forums either. It's like everyone knows how to moderate themselves, unlike a certain game's forum (*cough D3 cough*) where even the forum considers themselves to be one of the most unfriendly player bases in existence... and the game hasn't even been out that long...

I'm sure if people ask on their relevant server forums for channels to join, they'll find a giant number of people to play with, even if they don't talk to them much. :3


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