Thank you devs! Tyrant's personal story
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Posted on: 2012-06-01 14:53 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Agreed.
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Originally Posted by Blue Rabbit
Having to do that mission by only using ST attacks because any of the others will cause you to mapserve and have to restart isn't what I call fun. In fact, it is the very opposite definition of fun.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
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It's less than that actually.
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Originally Posted by Leandro
COH is a 32-bit Windows program, and as such, it *can't* use more than 2GB. Memory addresses are stored as 32-bit numbers, which means 4GB is a hard limit (because 2 to the 32 = 4.2 billion) and Windows splits that in 2GB for application usage, and 2GB for Windows itself. That means each 32-bit application gets its own 2GB of addresses, and shares the other 2GB with Windows stuff, regardless of how much memory is installed.
Note that there are certain versions of 32-bit Windows that can recognize up to 64GB of RAM, using something called Physical Address Extension, but that doesn't change anything on the application side: applications still "see" 4GB of addresses, of which they can use up to 2GB, and the other 2GB is for Windows stuff. (Edit: wording was too technical, I dumbed it down.) |
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The problem isn't latency either, at least not network latency. What you're measuring with netgraph is the response time of the server, and I believe when this mission (or any instanced mission) goes berserk the server stops responding to you or only responds slowly, because the mission itself is running slowly. This happens even if network latency is very low intrinsically.|
Originally Posted by Leandro
Don't be so quick to blame the computer. I have a quad core with 8GB of RAM and a Radeon 5770, and I haven't been able to complete the mission yet, even using single target attacks. The reason is latency: I normally have about 300ms of ping to the NCsoft servers, and it doesn't handle it well when a lot of mobs target me specifically.
If I summon my pets before entering the mission, they remain with me, and they can attack the giant army with no lag at all and a perfectly green netgraph. The second *I* attack the army directly, netgraph gets stuck in the red, and a mapserver crash is extremely liekly. |
I have an i870 with 16 gigs of RAM running Win7 x64 and my network latency to the servers averages about 60ms, and this mission dies on me every time I use AoEs (I haven't tried to single target my way through it yet). I think there's either some mission scripting going on to handle all the critters and its that scripting that is going bonkers, or its just the fact that there's a lot of critters densely packed in an open space with lots of clear line of sight overloading the combat engine, or both.
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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
i too would enjoy that mish so much more if the lag/mapserving problems were fixed up more
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This...
I used Hand Clap but even using just HC took 5-10 secs of "LCTMS" before the damage was applied and mobs died.
My machine (and internet connection) can handle Mag itrials and Hami raids, etc just fine....
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Yeah this...I tried it 5-8 times, sometimes with minimum graphics and got a ton of mapserves.|
Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
i too would enjoy that mish so much more if the lag/mapserving problems were fixed up more
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Seems fine at the start, then gets progressively worse. I had Netgraph on constantly, it seems everytime I fire a power off, it goes nuts. I thought it was the amount of enemies on the map at once, but it was doing it even when it came down to just myself and Lord Recluse!!
It's a shame, reall. I WANT to wade in and fire off loads of thunderstrikes, I WANT to feel all powerful, but I can't
I guess whoever plays Tyrant in the Magesterium trial obviously has a better PC and a stronger connection to the server than us lowly players 
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Sorry to necro this thread. But I figured other people might be looking for info on this.
As of 07/03/12, it's still bugged.
However, there is a strategy for completion on the ParagonWiki page for the contact.
Basically stay near the starting point and draw smaller mobs to your position with Laser Beam Eyes. Then use LBE and Energy Smash to kill mobs. The other powers in conjunction with the ridiculous concentration of enemies seem to be what's driving the server into screaming fits and causing the mapservs.
Only advance once you've cleared most of the center of the map. It's slow, but it works. Just SUCCESSFULLY completed it today using this method.
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The only way I was able to complete it was by putting laser beam eyes on auto and then just sequentially targeting everything in the mission while moving as little as possible. That's an unfortunately crappy realization of such a theoretically fun vignette.
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Back when I was having trouble with it, I tried that and still DC'd.|
Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
Sorry to necro this thread. But I figured other people might be looking for info on this.
As of 07/03/12, it's still bugged. However, there is a strategy for completion on the ParagonWiki page for the contact. Basically stay near the starting point and draw smaller mobs to your position with Laser Beam Eyes. Then use LBE and Energy Smash to kill mobs. The other powers in conjunction with the ridiculous concentration of enemies seem to be what's driving the server into screaming fits and causing the mapservs. Only advance once you've cleared most of the center of the map. It's slow, but it works. Just SUCCESSFULLY completed it today using this method. |
However, this last weekend I decided to try it again. And I went full-out, rushing into the middle of the enemies and cutting loose with the AoEs. I got some lag, mostly enemies not collapsing for several seconds after being defeated, but overall didn't have any trouble completing the mission.
I've got no clue what changed for me, but I'm glad I was able to do the mission for real instead of autocompleting after several mapserved tries.
(The ending was a bit abrupt; when I took out the last enemy the mission ended and I was kicked from the map. I assume that's how it's supposed to work, but it felt weird.)
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