Name Reservation Changes

When I think of the word unoriginal being used in relation to this topic it's when I see someone so inflexible in his thinking that he is adamantly insisting that there is only one possible name he can use, and he can't enjoy the game unless he gets to use that particular name.

But that's just me.

When it doubt, cook up more imaginary motivations that just happen to perfectly dovetail with your urge to steal names!

Or, they stick with the status quo and he doesn't have to worry about it.

A much better solution, involving zero developer effort.

Originally Posted by Paladiamors I love you, I Burnt the Toast!

Since IF this were to happen...it would be the result of Paragon FREEing up the names... could you stop with the "stealing" comments already... I realize it is just your way of making those with an opposing viewpoint to be seen in a negative light, but it is actually a lie to call someone a thief if what they "took" was sanctioned and made available for free... just saying.

Originally Posted by Paladiamors I love you, I Burnt the Toast!

Or you haven't or don't understand human psychology.

I have worked retail. You know what keeps customers coming back, giving them what they want. This is something the paying customer wants, you know, that customer that's still showing up and spending money. You give it to them, they keep returning because they're getting what they want.

Oh you want extra olives on that sandwhich. Well here you go!

Yay! I'll be back tomorrow because that other place says screw off.

Well that did happen to some people when Exalted went live. People who use their forum names as character names reported their names had been claimed and some name campers had said they could be paid to release the names they grabbed.

Not the way it's being made to sound like.

Sure there are some variations of names that work, and hell people might like them better.

Buuut, maybe someone doesn't want to replace the name Gluttony with Edacious (not avilable on Virtue because I did use it ;p) because most people will look at the name Edacious and go "WTF does that even mean?" or even replace Gluttony with Fat Pig (may or may not be available).

Also, some people actually came to CoH to play what it was advertised at...a superhero (or villain for redside) and not want to roll up Lord Knight of Avalon or IMAHEALER (in it's many different spellings).

And wanting to play that does limit names. You don't see Wolverine advertised as GUY WITH METAL CLAWS oir BEZERKER WITH POINTY THINGS!

THAT was funny Talk about people sensitive about their names hehehe.

Originally Posted by Paladiamors I love you, I Burnt the Toast!

According to you and Nether Goat and others, that's not name stealing. That is them claiming the name first and being original!

Whoever took the name "Forbin Project" before you could grab it, didnt steal it, they got it first and that makes it theirs.

BTW not saying it happened to you just used your name as an example.

Please provide some quantifiable evidence that such a purge will have EXACTLY the effect you intend with no unintentional side-effects or problems.


Have a nice day.

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That trial account I made 3 years ago, that still has it's names on it because I leveled up characters on it, and now it sits inactive and I couldnt get back on it because I forgot not only the password I used, but the global name and email addy I used with it.

I don't care if my especially awesome names that were on there get taken by someone else. I would however like them freed up so I or others have a chance at using them, instead of them sitting there unused forever.

Okay there you go. There's the proof.

Which isn't necessarily a qualifier for anything we're actually talking about. This could just mean you couldn't get a job that didn't require you to hoof it for 8+ hours a day. Or you're a glutton for the physical and mental punishment such jobs usually entail

All kidding aside...

Sometimes.

And if they keep coming back with ever more selfish, outrageous demands?

When does the foot get put down?

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That's not what's happening here. Your scenario would go more like this.

Customer: <Points at another customer's sandwhich> Yeah I want those olives on my sandwhich.
Company: Sure thing, <reaching for olives in the jar>
Customer: Whoa there! What are you doing?
Company: Putting olives on your sandwhich.
Customer: I don't want those olives. I said I wanted the olives that guy has on his sandwhich.
Company: These are those olives.
Customer: No those are new olives. I want his olives.
Company: I'm sorry, I'll be happy to put olive on your sandwhich, but I'm not going to take the olives that customer asked for on his sandwhich away from him and put them on your sandwhich.

All's fair in love and war.
Well, up until the point where they try to sell them back- that's sleazy.


Also, your inability to understand what "original" means in the context of this thread is baffling.

I thought your use of "original" in this thread was baffling.

Which was pretty much this, "You're not original if you tried for a name someone else grabbed before you".

That was exactly how it read.

However, I am curious to hear of original names you've come up with to replace the ones that were already taken when you tried to get them.

Nope. I don't believe claiming names for the purpose of selling their release for real money is original. It's bannable but not original.

No it doesn't. The name "Forbin Project" can't be used in the game because it is a copyrighted/trademarked IP belonging to a third party. They can only get away with using the name by staying under the GM's radar and hoping they don't get petitioned for copyright violation.

I have no intent nor innate desire for the purge to happen...as I have said it does not affect me. FYI asking for an absolute truth on anything that COULD happen is in and of itself nothing short of sticking your tongue out and going Na Na Na... To ask for definitive proof on ANY assumption or suggestion is just plain stupid and impossible. If companies did operate that way...they would be pretty stagnate... Just like in life..if you live by the "What If" standard out of fear for every simple thing...you wouldn't progress much.

The only proof one can be sure of is that if the name purge did happen...names would be freed up. The quality of said freed names is unknown by both sides to the argument. Then again quality in this respect is subjective as many people would claim my "super hero" names are not heroic at all.. I mean come on.. I Burnt The Toast... I Drunk Dialed My Ex... I'm Tricky Tricky (Run DMC ftw)....I Ride Stick... so you see I can claim with 100% certainty that if the purge were to happen that names would be freed up... Whether those names were ever used again by someone else...no one can be sure.

So yes a purge would have the exact effect I would think it would have. Heck the Devs could even say they were going to do a purge..not do it..and most people would not even know....

And to those "customers" who have not bothered to support this game for 3+ years... oh well. I would rather focus on my current customers and retain them then worry about the miniscule chance some Joe Blow MAY come back eventually and be upset he lost his AwesomeName for not paying/playing for years....

Originally Posted by Paladiamors I love you, I Burnt the Toast!

You're right. But this isn't a selfish or outrageous demand. This is pretty reasonable. No one is saying make names available being used by an active account.

Hell they're not saying mark names available from recently inactive accounts. They're saying mark names as available from 3+ years of inactivity.

That is reasonable.

Do I know if a name I could be wanting will be freed up? Nope. Do I know I'd get it even if it were? Nope.

Do I know some of those names would likely get use? Yup!

I've already explained how you misread my initial post.
Scroll up and read, I'm not typing it out again.

Last night I had made a character on Freedom to check out the new dark control set. Made the character female, came up with a costume I liked, a typical black/purplish number with a hood. Had in mind some sort of moon/lunar themed name and unsurprisingly my first few choices were taken.

Mulled it over a bit, and came up with Lunette, a word of French derivation meaning crescent or moon-shaped.

Bingo, not taken.
It's a great name, I'm very happy with it and I didn't have to jack it from another player.

*sigh* You obviosuly didn't read the part where I said "just using your name as an example"

I could of just as easily used Hyperstrike, Golden Girl, Arcanaville, some other forum regular.

But did all those name claimers do it to sell them or did some do it just to do it and keep them, maybe even use them? If the later, then totally original according to those who say "you're original if you get the name first, but not if you try for it and it's taken"

Pssst Lunette is a comic book character

First appearance in Gargoyles #8 - Gonna have to be more original than that

Originally Posted by Paladiamors I love you, I Burnt the Toast!

Yay! You used french! Which oh yeah, is what every other player wants to do! Use a foreign language to name their character when they speak english and hell, the character is likely english!

Good thing you know to look up words in other languages to get a free name! *thumbs up*

Which, you know, is what I mentioned as not being what people want to do.

I thought maybe when you said this you picked an english name, it was taken and you some how came up with an equally awesome name that was also in english!

No.. By active, I mean that a player puts the minimal effort to log into the game/character once every 3 years. If they fail to do so, it demonstrates that they don't care about the game or the character anymore.

Pot meet kettle.

At this point I care less about your argument than your calling me a thief.

Likewise it isn't YOUR place either. This is the Suggestions & Ideas section, not "Hyperstrike's guard post".

No... you are slapping that label on it. And after 3 years, most people would consider something abandoned. Software lifespan is usually 5 years. After a 7 year absence most government bodies consider you legally dead.

What I'm saying is that Paragon Studios should have a policy that says that if you can't be bothered to log into the game once every 3 years, then your account gets closed without prejudice.

I don't know... I would think plenty of people would accept a 1 in 6 chance to get a name they'd want. It would only increase with time & people leaving the game. Shockingly people do leave the game.

Actually, no... I'm asking for Paragon Studios to reasonably set a minimum amount of activity for both accounts & characters. If the account doesn't show any amount of activity over a generous time span, it should be subject to purging on a regular basis.

Looks at forum section... Yup, Suggestions and Ideas. It isn't being the forum guard to protect Paragon Studios from all that you don't agree with. Th

You and Hyperstrike keep using the terms "stealing" and "theft" without proving any kind of ownership. The names do not belong to accounts. The names belong to Paragon Studios. If you can prove ownership, which the EULA says is grounds for getting the character genericced, then and only then can you show "theft".

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*sigh* You obviously didn't read the part where I said "some name campers". "Some" has never equaled "all".


And as to the ones that kept and used some of those names, how is impersonating a known forum member considered being "original"? Pardon me if I doubt that their motives were noble and pure.



It won't matter one way or the other. The devs aren't going to publish a list of names that were freed up when and if the script is run, so no one will notice any difference. As I said before there will always be complaints because people still won't get the names they want.