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Aggelakis

By Aggelakis,
Posted on: 2012-04-24 01:15 in CoH and CoV General Discussions

 

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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl View Post
1440PP for the 8 hour one. I think 360PP for the 1 hour.

 

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Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle View Post
Nobody's excited about 4.5 PPM Hecatombs? Or were those added last week and I somehow didn't notice? Stack of procs: acquired!
Probably a little less excited than those that bought Performance Shifter proc's prior to them being nerfed.

The devs made a big boo boo by making SBE "any" different than crafted ones. They know they have made a mistake but seem to not want to fully admit it and fix it. Shame....stop acting like the Evil Empire Paragon it is beneath you....or was...

The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.

 

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Paragon had a taste of dat pay2win money and can't let go

 

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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl View Post
1440PP for the 8 hour one. I think 360PP for the 1 hour.
Bend over and prepare to be a recipient of "customer service" George Carlin style.

The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.

 

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Originally Posted by Dz131 View Post
Paragon had a taste of dat pay2win money and can't let go
Sadly appears so yes. WOW...just WOW!

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Originally Posted by Slaunyeh View Post
How much are those double xp boosters, anyway?
Full list of sale items here. Chad will have the first post of that thread updated and nicely formatted tonight.

Check out my post three posts after the one I linked. In that post I point out that your best Points per XP Boost is either the 50% off 5 Pack 25% XP Boost or the 8 Hour 100% XP Boost. Any other XP Boost purchase costs more Points per percentage boost over time.

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Originally Posted by Rabid_M View Post
We just expect them to be nerfed, that's all.
I think that might have been a reasonable expectation before the PS nerf. They could easily have tackled PPMs as a whole but seem fairly sure that the damage procs are WAI. The other thing is, at their "actual values" these pieces would be pretty damn expensive. At their sale values they're kind of not. 200 points for a generic purple? Sure. Converters work on SBEs just as well as they work on IOs*.

*Oh ho, no they do not, not on the purple ones. You might want to amend your spreadsheet, ZM. Fortunately the plain ol' hecatomb procs that these will replace are highly convertible.

 

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Originally Posted by Dz131 View Post
Paragon had a taste of dat pay2win money and can't let go
Having recently explored worlds and leagues of tanks and legends, all I can say to that is:



What exactly am I winning with my pay?

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SBE procs are a dirty bomb waiting to go off in the middle of a crowded downtown city.

The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.

 

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Originally Posted by SpyralPegacyon View Post
What exactly am I winning with my pay?
The right to have your OP'ed SBE Proc nerfed when the devs wake up.....after they get your money of course.

The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.

 

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Originally Posted by Darth_Khasei View Post
The right to have your OP'ed SBE Proc nerfed when the devs wake up.....after they get your money of course.
No, I distinctly heard 'pay2win' mentioned. What am I supposed to be winning by playing the game?

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The right to have your OP'ed SBE Proc nerfed when the devs wake up.....after they get your money of course.
Thing is, what kind of nerf would you expect? So far it seems that all they'll even consider is lowering the PPM value for a proc. In many cases they'd have to knock it down a great degree for it to not remain radically superior to normal procs. It's technically possible for them to bump all SBE procs down to, say, 1 PPM, but that just wouldn't make a lot of sense. What I would sooner expect to see is either a marginal reduction, say the 4.5s down to 3.5s, or the craziest scenario: ditch the PPM system and just treat them as regular procs. I think they should do that but I don't think they will do that.

 

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Originally Posted by SpyralPegacyon View Post
No, I distinctly heard 'pay2win' mentioned. What am I supposed to be winning by playing the game?
A SBE proc that performs better than any crafted one that people can earn in game. Only to have it nerfed soon™ after they get your money.

The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.

 

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Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle View Post
Thing is, what kind of nerf would you expect? So far it seems that all they'll even consider is lowering the PPM value for a proc. In many cases they'd have to knock it down a great degree for it to not remain radically superior to normal procs. It's technically possible for them to bump all SBE procs down to, say, 1 PPM, but that just wouldn't make a lot of sense. What I would sooner expect to see is either a marginal reduction, say the 4.5s down to 3.5s, or the craziest scenario: ditch the PPM system and just treat them as regular procs. I think they should do that but I don't think they will do that.
Not sure what kind of nerf to expect as were the people that spent money on PS proc and saw it nerfed in front of their faces. The devs dropped the ball on the SBE proc deal and there is no way around that fact.

The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.

 

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Originally Posted by Darth_Khasei View Post
A SBE proc that performs better than any crafted one that people can earn in game. Only to have it nerfed soon™ after they get your money.
So I'm not 'paying to win', I'm 'paying to kill mobs at a slightly faster rate'. OK, got it.

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So I'm not 'paying to win', I'm 'paying to kill mobs at a slightly faster rate'. OK, got it.
LOL, that is pay to win mate LOL!

The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.

 

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Originally Posted by SpyralPegacyon View Post
So I'm not 'paying to win', I'm 'paying to kill mobs at a slightly faster rate'. OK, got it.
LOL.
we have a winnar!

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LOL, that is pay to win mate LOL!
Again, having played a few true pay2win games here and there, I could post a Condescending Wonka but I'll be nice.

pay2buynao, sure. I've done that with the Kinetic Combat sale. pay4moredps, maybe, but reaching for that level of performance in the game isn't even neccessary. pay2win? There's nothing to win here, outside of what we want to get out of the game. Calling SBE procs pay2in is just disingenuous.

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As we're coming up to the 8th anniversary now, I hope that the devs will finally tell us how to win the game - I know the sandbox approach is popular with MMOs, but I don't think it's a good idea to make it so hard to find the route to the winning line.
I've been here for over 5 years, and according to the badge list and the Ouroboros misison list, I've explored all the zones and done all the missions - but I haven't found out how to win the game yet.

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Originally Posted by SpyralPegacyon View Post
Again, having played a few true pay2win games here and there, I could post a Condescending Wonka but I'll be nice.

pay2buynao, sure. I've done that with the Kinetic Combat sale. pay4moredps, maybe, but reaching for that level of performance in the game isn't even neccessary. pay2win? There's nothing to win here, outside of what we want to get out of the game. Calling SBE procs pay2in is just disingenuous.
I think that selling something that performs better than anything crafted in the game is something that is not good. I don't want to give the wrong impression of what I mean in the classic pay to win debate deal. It may not be but it bloody stinks to high heaven for them to sell them and they operate differently than the same named crafted counterpart in the game.

And when they nerf it like they did with the other one, there is a name for that too.

The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.

 

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Originally Posted by Darth_Khasei View Post
I think that selling something that performs better than anything crafted in the game is something that is not good. I don't want to give the wrong impression of what I mean in the classic pay to win debate deal. It may not be but it bloody stinks to high heaven for them to sell them and they operate differently than the same named crafted counterpart in the game.
OK, that part I can understand. Admittedly, part of the benefit I get for my $15 a month is incarnate goodness, so I think we crossed that bridge a while back. But I can see where you're coming from.

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Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
As we're coming up to the 8th anniversary now, I hope that the devs will finally tell us how to win the game - I know the sandbox approach is popular with MMOs, but I don't think it's a good idea to make it so hard to find the route to the winning line.
I've been here for over 5 years, and according to the badge list and the Ouroboros misison list, I've explored all the zones and done all the missions - but I haven't found out how to win the game yet.
To win, you have to play as a villain too.

 

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Originally Posted by Darth_Khasei View Post
I think that selling something that performs better than anything crafted in the game is something that is not good. I don't want to give the wrong impression of what I mean in the classic pay to win debate deal. It may not be but it bloody stinks to high heaven for them to sell them and they operate differently than the same named crafted counterpart in the game.

And when they nerf it like they did with the other one, there is a name for that too.
I don't think people realize how good PPMs are. They'd have to nerf the hecatomb proc from 4.5 PPM down to 2 PPM for it to be worth switching it from precise strike to sky splitter in the staff chain of PS-SR-PS-SS, at which point it would still be better than the regular hecatomb proc slotted in precise strike. They could nerf the hecatomb proc down to one PPM and it would still be far better than a normal hecatomb proc in knockout blow.

 

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Originally Posted by Rabid_M View Post
We just expect them to be nerfed, that's all.
Pretty much this.

EDIT: If I ever get interested in buying such things from the market, I'll wait 6 months to see if there are any adjustments to them first.

I don't trust that what you buy is what you get with those things now.

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