Dark madness died out already?
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Sorry, if this build works for you so be it. It just seems like you tried to fit in as many expensive io's as you could with little to no disregard for how to properly slot powers. Also, the Kismet unique is doing almost nothing for you with that level of global accuracy bonuses, and the regen tissue isn't worth it especially when you have life drain. I don't think you were looking for a critique, but I couldn't help it.
ps. I was joking about the sniper. Snipes are awful. Period.
The other comments on your build, Dark Energon, made me pull it up as well just to see what is going on. doomrider really hits the nail on the head with his comments.
Dropping in sets all over the place will make the character better there is no doubt. When spending the time, effort and money you are going to shell out for this character you might want to think about what is it you want it to do. Right now you are a jack of all trades but sadly a maser of none.
When building a Dominator your first stat is improving recharge. The domination power is just to good to pass up. Even if you don't want a perma-dom, you must want something out of the build. Do you want to be a damage machine? Maybe you want capped defense to everything and laugh at tanks when they face-plant and your still standing? It is up to you, of course. It's your character.
If it helps, I tend to build my doms in this order: Recharge till I get perma-domination, Defense to the cap for the way I will be playing the dom. (Melee types get capped melee type defense, ranged types get ranged defense etc.) Most times by going with this approach I don't really have many slots left to focus on something else, so what ever bonuses i picked up getting the build tend to just be gravy. But that's my play style.
One of these days I really need to make a Dom with as much recharge as i can pump into them. Sadly my altitis keeps my checkbook pretty lean and really EPIC recharge doms tend to need a bunch of purples to create. With what you are spending on this build. Try going at it with as much recharge as you can get. I think you will be very happy with the results.
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Like i said, it is my 1st Dom and i really didn't do much research to any builds or what not because both powersets are new.
I knew i liked the play style of my main toon, being a Jack of all Trades, so i kinda went for that too.
In regards to other peoples feedback to this build, play style on paper is different than in practice. My crowd control is just fine, Living Shadows stops most in their tracks, and with the added proc, even holds at least 1 and most of the time more than 1 in a mob per use. From there on i Can hold almost any foe with my Dark Grasp. I can get in the mob, throw HoD so they are stunned for a few and lose some ToHit, use my Engulfing Darkness to cause some more damage, and most of the mob is already dead.
Shadow Field i noticed works bets if dropped on a mob, not for foes who are not in there when it drops as they take a while to get held if they wonder in it.
I Agree with Dark Embrace 6 slotting as kinda wierd. The effect of the set is not much to that point, but i needed the extra HP.
As to the Regen Tiss/Life Drain comment... My Health and Stamina are slotted this way on all my toons, depending on certain sets bonuses some toons might have a little different slotting, but this is my standard base.
Life Drain isn't an Auto hit, Regen Tiss is, also Life Drain need to be in range for it to use, while Regen Tiss is always in range.
Oh, and why 5 slot sniper? 450 per hit is very nice from range, plus the added rech bonus is nice too.
Anyways, untill you either play with me while on this toon or actually try this build out, all you can do is speculate. I understand that you guys have more expiriance with Doms than me, again, it's my 1st Dom, but i like the fact that i am not your average Dom. I know we all have a role as an AT, but on a league of 24, u really need that many role players? We can't all be the Lead Tank and such, right?
Anyways, thank you for your feedback, but as long as i am happy with this build, that is all that matters.. as with any build anyone makes.. YMMV.
Dark Energon, Founder of the Freedom Legion SG on Guardian server.
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I know we all have a role as an AT, but on a league of 24, u really need that many role players? We can't all be the Lead Tank and such, right?
Anyways, thank you for your feedback, but as long as i am happy with this build, that is all that matters.. as with any build anyone makes.. YMMV. |
Ugh it kills me that you have all that money invested in such a build...give it to me gosh darnit! Well...as long as you're happy *shudder*
It amazes me how many people complain about sets ruined by sound--no, scratch that...
It amazes me how many people play with the sound on in the first place. I turned that off after my first year or so with the game. Only time I ever feel the need to turn it back on is for a glowie hunt. How does the constant sound effects of enemies shooting/attacking you not grate on your ears?
It amazes me how many people complain about sets ruined by sound--no, scratch that...
It amazes me how many people play with the sound on in the first place. I turned that off after my first year or so with the game. Only time I ever feel the need to turn it back on is for a glowie hunt. How does the constant sound effects of enemies shooting/attacking you not grate on your ears? |
*Points to sign above thread door*
I think you may have wondered into the wrong thread with that comment.
No biggy tho, it happens all the time.
Dark Energon, Founder of the Freedom Legion SG on Guardian server.
(SG founded on 12-08-'09, Top100: 08-17-'10, Top50: 12-23-'10, Top25: 12-11-'11)
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It amazes me how many people complain about sets ruined by sound--no, scratch that...
It amazes me how many people play with the sound on in the first place. I turned that off after my first year or so with the game. Only time I ever feel the need to turn it back on is for a glowie hunt. How does the constant sound effects of enemies shooting/attacking you not grate on your ears? |
Please buff Ice Control.
O.o
*Points to sign above thread door* I think you may have wondered into the wrong thread with that comment. No biggy tho, it happens all the time. |
I think you may have issues with reading comprehension.
No biggy tho, it happens all the time.
If you say so. It all sounds the same to me at this point. Especially when you start talking about full teams, with all your allies powers going off, the chuggachugga of machine guns....
I agree that build needs some help. I will give you credit for at least trying though, instead of just asking for a build.
Here's a partial revision for you. A bit endurance heavy. Recommend the Agility alpha and probably Ageless. Soft capped to ranged in normal content before you hit your first enemy (important for AVs especially).
Also, suck it up and take Hasten. If you REALLY want to put Fly back in there in its place, you can do it, but realize your perma dom status depends on never getting hit with a single -Recharge debuff. And lacking that one power is seriously hurting your build.
Note on a few powers I assumed you can blow a few enhancement boosters. These cost points/cash, so if you opt not to, some more minor revision is needed. Mainly Stamina, Hasten, the heal in Life Drain, Soul Drain, and Gather Shadows. You can reconfigure if you don't want to spend the cash or don't mind a little sacrifice in these powers (Hasten is a must-enhance tho or else drop a slot from somewhere and move it here to make it perma). You may also need to drop a damage proc in Living Shadows in favor of more endurance reduction, or enhance that slot with another EB.
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Body of Darkness: Level 50 Magic Dominator
Primary Power Set: Darkness Control
Secondary Power Set: Dark Assault
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Dark Grasp -- AotDominator-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), AotDominator-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(3), AotDominator-EndRdx/Rchg(3), AotDominator-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(5), AotDominator-Rchg/+Dmg%(5), AotDominator-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(7)
Level 1: Dark Blast -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(7), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(9)
Level 2: Smite -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(9), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(11), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(11), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Mako-Dam%(13)
Level 4: Gloom -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(17), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(19), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19)
Level 6: Living Shadows -- DarkWD-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(A), SipInsght-Acc/ToHitDeb(21), GravAnch-Hold%(21), Posi-Dam%(23), TotHntr-Dam%(23)
Level 8: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 10: Hover -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(25)
Level 12: Possess -- CoPers-Conf(A), CoPers-Conf/EndRdx(25), CoPers-Conf%(27), CoPers-Conf/Rchg(27), CoPers-Acc/Conf/Rchg(29), CoPers-Acc/Rchg(29)
Level 14: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)
Level 16: Fearsome Stare -- Cloud-ToHitDeb(A), Cloud-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Cloud-Acc/ToHitDeb(31), Cloud-Acc/Rchg(31), Cloud-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Cloud-%Dam(33)
Level 18: Tough -- GA-3defTpProc(A)
Level 20: Heart of Darkness -- Amaze-EndRdx/Stun(A), Amaze-ToHitDeb%(33), Amaze-Acc/Rchg(34), Amaze-Acc/Stun/Rchg(34), Amaze-Stun/Rchg(34)
Level 22: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Ksmt-ToHit+(36)
Level 24: Gather Shadows -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 26: Haunt -- S'bndAl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), S'bndAl-Dmg/Rchg(36)
Level 28: Shadow Field -- UbrkCons-EndRdx/Hold(A), UbrkCons-Acc/Hold/Rchg(36), UbrkCons-Dam%(37), UbrkCons-Acc/Rchg(37), UbrkCons-Hold/Rchg(37), Lock-%Hold(39)
Level 30: Engulfing Darkness -- Armgdn-Dmg(A), Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg(39), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(40)
Level 32: Life Drain -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(40), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Heal-I(42)
Level 35: Umbra Beast -- ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg(A), ExRmnt-Acc/Rchg(42), ExRmnt-Dmg/EndRdx(43), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), ExRmnt-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(43), ExRmnt-+Res(Pets)(45)
Level 38: Dark Embrace -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 41: Dark Obliteration -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(45), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), Posi-Dam%(46)
Level 44: Midnight Grasp -- Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(48), Hectmb-Dam%(48), Hectmb-Dmg(48)
Level 47: Soul Drain -- Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(A)
Level 49: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(50), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(50)
Level 50: Spectral Radial Flawless Interface
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon
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Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(50)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(15)
Level 1: Brawl -- HO:Nucle(A)
Level 1: Domination
Level 1: Sprint -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
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*Points to the first couple pages of people complaining about wolf howling*
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And how annoying the Umbra Beast's howl is, i really doubt that he was A) referring to that, and B) Has stopped most people from playing this powerset.
Yes, as with ALL new powersets, people will try it out, thus u see more toons with those powers. After the hype calms down, u see the people who like the powers play it. Remember Time Manipulation? Same thing.. 6 out of 10 u saw were TM toons, and i doubt that the sound from that set stopped people from playing it.
Dark Energon, Founder of the Freedom Legion SG on Guardian server.
(SG founded on 12-08-'09, Top100: 08-17-'10, Top50: 12-23-'10, Top25: 12-11-'11)
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I agree that build needs some help. I will give you credit for at least trying though, instead of just asking for a build.
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Here's a partial revision for you. A bit endurance heavy. Recommend the Agility alpha and probably Ageless. Soft capped to ranged in normal content before you hit your first enemy (important for AVs especially).
Also, suck it up and take Hasten. If you REALLY want to put Fly back in there in its place, you can do it, but realize your perma dom status depends on never getting hit with a single -Recharge debuff. And lacking that one power is seriously hurting your build. |
PS: I rather like my Travel Power.
BTW, telling me to suck it up and take Hasten, is not the way to make friends. And Not having Hasten isn't seriously hurting my build, i can do what i need just fine without it.
Note on a few powers I assumed you can blow a few enhancement boosters. These cost points/cash, so if you opt not to, some more minor revision is needed. Mainly Stamina, Hasten, the heal in Life Drain, Soul Drain, and Gather Shadows. You can reconfigure if you don't want to spend the cash or don't mind a little sacrifice in these powers (Hasten is a must-enhance tho or else drop a slot from somewhere and move it here to make it perma). You may also need to drop a damage proc in Living Shadows in favor of more endurance reduction, or enhance that slot with another EB.
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Seems like your revised build, that i never asked for, needs some more revising. May i suggest you make one, and stick it where the sun don't shine? Until i actually ask for help on a build, and then you can pull it out and show me.
Sorry if i come across as rude, but i never asked for anyone to rebuild my build, let alone have people talk to me the way this guy did.
Showing respect, making suggestions and showing how a build could look with a few changes is fine, but don't tell me my build needs help when i clearly said i am happy with it. Also telling me to suck it up and do this isn't the way to get me to like you, and assuming anything.. well, ask Gene Wilder what he thinks about the word assume.
Dark Energon, Founder of the Freedom Legion SG on Guardian server.
(SG founded on 12-08-'09, Top100: 08-17-'10, Top50: 12-23-'10, Top25: 12-11-'11)
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Yes, how funny that he didn't mention anything regarding darkness, just talked about sounds. He wanted to, he really did.... but he said scratch it, so i erased my memory and did not see it :P
And how annoying the Umbra Beast's howl is, i really doubt that he was A) referring to that, and B) Has stopped most people from playing this powerset. |
The overall presentation of Dark really takes a hit from Umbra Beast, annoying sounds and thematically restricting pet all rolled in one.
Yes, as with ALL new powersets, people will try it out, thus u see more toons with those powers. After the hype calms down, u see the people who like the powers play it. Remember Time Manipulation? Same thing.. 6 out of 10 u saw were TM toons, and i doubt that the sound from that set stopped people from playing it. |
Yes, how funny that he didn't mention anything regarding darkness, just talked about sounds. He wanted to, he really did.... but he said scratch it, so i erased my memory and did not see it :P
And how annoying the Umbra Beast's howl is, i really doubt that he was A) referring to that, and B) Has stopped most people from playing this powerset. Yes, as with ALL new powersets, people will try it out, thus u see more toons with those powers. After the hype calms down, u see the people who like the powers play it. Remember Time Manipulation? Same thing.. 6 out of 10 u saw were TM toons, and i doubt that the sound from that set stopped people from playing it. |
You do know that earlier post were clearly talking about Dark Control not Beast Mastery right?
Umbra Beast's howl hasn't stopped me from playing the set, but it has provoked me to replacing the sound file with a blank. Its howling every 10-15 seconds was that annoying to me. Of course, it's not the first case of a sound driving people away from a set either; see Demons and Sonic Blast.
The overall presentation of Dark really takes a hit from Umbra Beast, annoying sounds and thematically restricting pet all rolled in one. I always find it funny that people have 50s in new sets within days of their release. I suspect it contributes a lot to how quick excitement dies down for some sets. For me, I'm still working on first dark control character, slowing leveling her and learning the ins-and-outs of its powers. |
I really hope that one day we'll get some pet customizations for the Dominator, Controller and even the MasterMind pets.
Imagine 4 robot pet MM's, one with the regular looking pet, 1 with the original clockwork, 1 with the Praetorian clockwork and one with the War Work as pets.. that would be so awesome in my opinion.
Dark Energon, Founder of the Freedom Legion SG on Guardian server.
(SG founded on 12-08-'09, Top100: 08-17-'10, Top50: 12-23-'10, Top25: 12-11-'11)
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Yes, how funny that he didn't mention anything regarding darkness, just talked about sounds. He wanted to, he really did.... but he said scratch it, so i erased my memory and did not see it :P
And how annoying the Umbra Beast's howl is, i really doubt that he was A) referring to that, and B) Has stopped most people from playing this powerset. |
I can't play it anymore because the constant howling from the pet has driven me bonkers.
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Just another case showing how not having the in game option has ruined the set for another player. I mean there is a reason I will not roll a demon MM even if I like it, I hate the sounds with passion since they are way to loud and frequent.
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I lost most of my enthusiasm when I got the top pet. Too bad.
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The Umbra beast is what turns me off each time. The set was awesome, but once I get back to playing him, I bring the wolf out and I'm like, "Oh, yeah...that's why..." I get that the sound could be turned off for me and that's fine. But it shouldn't HAVE to be turned off to not be annoying. Howling is fine. Howling every 5 seconds is not.
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Dark Energon, Founder of the Freedom Legion SG on Guardian server.
(SG founded on 12-08-'09, Top100: 08-17-'10, Top50: 12-23-'10, Top25: 12-11-'11)
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I betrayed my own intentions and rerolled the Cold Reader character from my sig from Mind/Cold to Dark/Cold. I was really worried about the wolf breaking concept, but I guess most people can forgive a sort of arctic-y wolf, and then the shields encase him in ice to make him a bit more unusual looking. Overall I think it works, but mainly just in this instance. The rest of the set does capture the feel of the character tho overall.
Seems like your revised build, that i never asked for, needs some more revising. May i suggest you make one, and stick it where the sun don't shine? Until i actually ask for help on a build, and then you can pull it out and show me.
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Wow. Well that's what I get for trying to help.
Bluntly, what I didn't say the first time is that the worst build I have ever seen for what you spent on it. If you listen to no other advice, consider this: there are three key AoE control powers in Dark, and you've spent fewer slots on the three of them combined as you did on your Snipe. And yet you still managed to rack up billions of influence in costs. I'm sorry if it seemed like I was insulting you, because that wasn't the intent. I certainly wouldn't have spent thetime to build you a new suggestion to look at if I just wanted to be catty. But if you want to play pillow fight, let's do it: the fact is, the only thing your first build showed is that it is technically possible to put 7 purple sets into a build. A SO build would most likely outperform it.
Sorry if i come across as rude, but i never asked for anyone to rebuild my build, let alone have people talk to me the way this guy did.
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If you don't want that to happen then don't post your build. Simples. But don't get all shirty because people do what they've done on these subforums for years, ie respond with reasonable advice.
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If you listen to no other advice, consider this: there are three key AoE control powers in Dark, and you've spent fewer slots on the three of them combined as you did on your Snipe. And yet you still managed to rack up billions of influence in costs. :the fact is, the only thing your first build showed is that it is technically possible to put 7 purple sets into a build. A SO build would most likely outperform it. |
I sometimes come across a little harsh in my criticism, harsher than others I'm sure, but am more than happy to help anyone who wants a second opinion on their build. I understand you'd didn't ask for a critique but don't be surprised that you get one you didn't ask for shortly after posting that sort of build. Maybe take this as a sign that though your build may "work for you" it could be substantially better with that much investment and that's all that any of us taking the time to post here and trying to assert.
You surely can't expect bragging about your 7 purple set build and posting it and not have people criticise it?
I think most people have been overly kind on your build. The slotting and power picks need serious work to justify the influence spent but it's your build so you can do what you want I guess.
I guess he showed it to us to let us know that he wasn't breaking the rule but still that build whew! Wow.
I already was not sure about the whole idea of the umbral wolf. It just seems too specific and I couldn't think of a background for the character that I liked. But before I got to level 20ish, I teamed with some higher levels and could not stand the sound.
Rerolled Fire/Dark.
Now I already have a Fire/Psi which is one of my 5 mains (hahah) and it would seem that they are similar, but I'm building the Fire/dark to be more single target oriented.
At level 32 my DARK MADNESS is still going strong.
Mains - Freedom: Croatoa - 50 Fire/Psi Dom, Grandville - 50 SS/Elec Brute, Dark-Astoria - 50 Dark/Fire Scrapper, Pearline - 50 Spines/Regen Scrapper, Caffeine Girl - 50 Earth/Kin Troller
Wow...Yeah. I'm curious as well.