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Agent White,
Posted on: 2012-04-04 13:12 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
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Originally Posted by Bloodspeaker
I wouldn't assume much from that. Their track record with the English language is spotty, at best.
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Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man
Actually destroyed or just killed?
Apparently, he's one of the main baddies you face in the new Night Ward zone in i23. The zone is supposedly tucked in between the realms of the living and the dead. Maybe he really WAS killed and simply refuses to cross over? |
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Originally Posted by Brynstar
I also have to wonder about praetorian Infernal (who shouldn't exist anyway because Infernal is already from another dimension).
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
it's NEVER too late to pad your /ignore list!
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
That would be very out of sync with the level and story progression - post-Praetorian war content below 50 would eb very weird
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Originally Posted by Brynstar
In Tina's arc it just says he met his end at the hands of the DE, and you no longer encountered him in any of the praetorian PI arcs.
I also have to wonder about praetorian Infernal (who shouldn't exist anyway because Infernal is already from another dimension). Maybe he will be in Night Ward somewhere. |
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Originally Posted by Lycantropus
50 for one set of characters, but time has stopped at 30 in Praetoria currently. Those characters that are 'native' and have stayed as such (now there are exceptions like folks who EX down and helped other people with their missions until they reach 50) are technically right in tune with the timeline if they picked up with post Cole in the 30-40 timeline for them.
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The timeline isn't strictly 1-50. It generally is.
But like, Admiral Sutter's Taskforce is in the 20-40 range but is happening during the Praetorian war, events that don't take place until the 50s, between the initial excusions/encounters in the 40-50 range between Tina Macintyre and Maria Jenkins, to the full blown war with the initial incarnate trials.
Likewise, with IDF and Maelstrom showing up in the Shining Stars arc, not to mention the whole plot there with the traitor.
Again, the timeline isn't strict or exact. There's stuff that happens in the general chronology of leveling and there's stuff that's happening -now-. The two can kind of mix, so while 1 - 50 is a -general- rule of thumb, it is not exact.
Frankly, I wouldn't mind if Night Ward does take place after the Trial so we can start right on in on the post-nuke aftermath, going to be a lot of dead people crowding in there. But we'll see.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
But that doesn't make sense story-wise - hitting level 30 in First Ward with Tyrant and the loyalists still in power then getting a pop up with the opening Night Ward contact taking you to a zone where Tyrant and the loyalists have been overthrown is way too big a jump.
That would make the Praetorian storyline be 1-30 Tyrant's in power, 30-35 the war's been and gone, and Tyrant's gone, 50+ Tyrant's in power, the war starts and ends. It also doesn't fit with the theme of progressive decay that's all through Praetoria and the leveling path - Nova Praetoria is a fake utopia - it's too perfect - Imperial City is almost normal, Neutropolis is run down, First Ward is ruined, Night Ward is half in the realm of the dead - there's a very stong use of visual storytelling going on in Praetoria that's an important part of the whole story. Plus, there's also some possibly important links in the Tyrant Trial - when Tyrant nukes the place with the power of Tartarus, he also calls on the power of the dead - Tartarus was the place in the underworld in Greek mythology where the Titans were imprisoned by Zeus, and in the I23 overview, Night Ward is described as being half in the land of the dead, and as an "eternal prison" - placing Night Ward in a pre-war slot in the storyline would give Tyrant's rather left field call on Tartarus and the dead a lot more context - and it might also explain why Dominatrix suddenly just shows up with us at the start of the Tyrant Trial cutscene, with no context either. |
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I also think it's pretty funny that they actually turned it back into the devestated wasteland that we first saw in Maria Jenkins' original arc
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
But that doesn't make sense story-wise - hitting level 30 in First Ward with Tyrant and the loyalists still in power then getting a pop up with the opening Night Ward contact taking you to a zone where Tyrant and the loyalists have been overthrown is way too big a jump.
That would make the Praetorian storyline be 1-30 Tyrant's in power, 30-35 the war's been and gone, and Tyrant's gone, 50+ Tyrant's in power, the war starts and ends. |
Please tell me someone recorded this or that it's going to be available for offline viewing.
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Originally Posted by Blue Rabbit
Please tell me someone recorded this or that it's going to be available for offline viewing.
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Originally Posted by Agent White
The timeline isn't strictly 1-50. It generally is.
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Originally Posted by Lord_Kalistoh
I bet Prometheus isn't going to be happy what we did under the guidance of Dream Doctor.
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Originally Posted by WiFi
Or, to put it another way: The timeline for each portion of content has to be internally consistent. It doesn't have to be consistent with other content other than in broad strokes, no matter how thematically tied.
Besides, while I'm pretty sure Night Ward is gonna be a lead-in to Sic Semper Tyrannis plotwise, that's also going to mean various hooks to mean that it comes after DA. That in turn means it comes well after First Ward, not immediately. Anyway, trying to force the timeline of events a character of yours goes through to make logical sense is a fool's errand. Not only are other players' characters doing all those things in a variety of different orders, so are your own characters. Just try to enjoy what you're doing in the moment and assume this isn't your characters' story. You can make up for yourself what your characters do (AE helps!), while for the most part developer made content is the lore background of the game world that you get the pleasure of seeing firsthand. |
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Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
The 1-30 game still exists in Prae if you never leave Prea. And Night Ward now extends that to 35. I can easily see them building levels 35-50 as a separate timeline of what happens now that Tyrant is dead. That is the 35-50 game could be instances or phased tech of you returning to the old starting Preatorian zones that have been revamped and made more harsh (thus the level bump for mobs) due to Tyrant's hydrogen bomb. Thus the FINAL part of the Praetorian story could involved helping to put down the factions that try to rise up with Tyrant and his croonies being put down. With the first iTrial being stopping Hamidon with help (or relcutant help) from Primal.
The batillion+well of the multi furies thing would be a whole new storyline for BOTH Primal and Pare Earth. |
I think Pendragon have a unique costume since is a new AV, Praetorian Hero 1.
Wow, was looking forward for that.
Shadowhunter has a new look too,and new powersets.
Black Swan looks all the same but even more simple as AV without wings... Maybe her new costume was not ready yet and they are using her old costume as placeholder?
I dont think Praetoria is going to be completely erased, just destroyed partially.
And I mean destroyed like Skyway is in the Sutter TF, just for that event.
Any eta for open beta?
Has it been a "couple of days" ?
A couple still means two, right?
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Originally Posted by Agent White
Not to mention whoever was using the 'Paragon Studios' handle kept repeating that the beta would open up this week.
Man that was an annoying chat to read through though. WHEN ARE THE NEXT INCARNATE SLOTS OPENING? HOW MUCH LONGER MUST I SUFFER? |
ty, had to sign up to reply :P xD
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Originally Posted by RevolverMike
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Originally Posted by WiFi
Besides, while I'm pretty sure Night Ward is gonna be a lead-in to Sic Semper Tyrannis plotwise
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Originally Posted by Cag
ty, had to sign up to reply :P xD
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It didn't occur to me last night as I was watching the stream, but since the hybrid powers are toggles I'm guessing the colored pulsing disk popping up around the characters in that trial is the graphic for them.
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Originally Posted by Oliin
It didn't occur to me last night as I was watching the stream, but since the hybrid powers are toggles I'm guessing the colored pulsing disk popping up around the characters in that trial is the graphic for them.
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