best primary for Time corruptor?

I'm tempted to purchase Time Manipulation, but I need a suggestion for a primary that works well with it for corruptors.

I know people will suggest Fire, but I rather would see what other set may be good so that I can get some secondary effects, not just damage.

I definitely want to do pretty well. I want to be able to solo Elite Bosses.
I would like at least one decent AoE to be able to take on larger groups of enemies, maybe even increase the difficulty.

I have played radiation Blast before, which has a lot of AoE, but it seems weak even though it is fast and defense debuffs make it easy to reliably hit. I would be ok with playing this again, but I am hoping something else is better.




So....which primary do you think is a good fit for Time Manipulation that will bring down enemies rather quickly and make soloing the tougher Elite Bosses with purple triangles possible?



Edit:
I do not have IO access.
I do not have incarnate access.

Please keep that in mind.

You ask for the best primary to pair with time then exclude that very set...Brilliant.

Why not just decide for yourself since you really don't want people to tell you the best since you already know what it is and you don't want it.

Haven't personally tried it yet, but Assault Rifle might be worth a look.

2 regular cone attacks. 1 AOE. A location based DoT patch to drop into the midst of slowed/held enemies, and then also the cone crashless nuke.

Oh yeah, I don't have access to IOs.

So yeah, it has to be good on SOs/HOs(preferrably SOs since HOs have to wait until 50).

If you're mostly planning to solo or be on a small team then Sonic is great. It melts bosses and EBs once you get going. It also has the advantage that it and Times effects are pretty similar and with a little customization would blend very well. Only has a cone and no AOE / PBAOE which means it may not play well with Times Juncture.

Ice Storm doesn't have RoFs double damage scourging abilities but it's still nice on a Corrupter as the Scourge still checks per tick. All the -recharge in Ice will stack with the -recharge in Distortion Field, which is nice. But Ice kinda likes to be at range and using Time's Juncture means being up close. You also get the option of stackable holds.

Rad and Elec both come with a PBAOE but in Elecs case it's gimmick (End Drains) are very binary and you don't have anything in your secondary to compliment them. Also without IOs slotting Short Circuit is a bit of a pain. The 1-2 combo of Short Circuit and Ball Lightning are pretty nice though.

Rad I just don't like, having tried it a few times. The damage is lower than Elecs for no real good reason and -Def is only marginally useful once you have SOs

Actually looking at Red Tomax the damage in Elec seems really high. I'm not sure if it's accurate (does Ball Lightning really do nearly 50% more damage than both Rads Tennis Ball of Doom and Fires Fireball??).

Dark Blast I didn't like on a Corrupter when I played it, but Life Drain has been improved. Nightfail is really annoying though and the lack of an AOE or PBAOE doesn't really blend with Time. Dark Pit is a complete waste of a power as well.

Of the weapon sets I've only played Beam (on a Traps defender) and it's pretty good there. However it is a pay-for set and it is also suited to less busy sets like Traps. The single target damage is pretty good on it and spreading disintergration is pretty fun. Also the Cone attack is excellent on it (probably my favourite blasting cone attack). The downside is little AOE and no PBAOE.

If the Red Tomax figures for Elec are accurate I'd go with that to be honest. But I cannot really believe that they can be surely?

Otherwise I'd go Sonic or Ice, or maybe Beam as it's thematic

*Edit : I've checked the Blaster versions of the sets and the Corrupter ones on Red Tomax certainly seem to be screwy. Elecs AOEs do less than Fires and a little more than Rads as expected. So I wouldn't go Elec personally either

If you're going to go Sonic Attacks, go Defender over Corruptor. Your Time powers will be better and your blasts will do -20% res apiece. Time/Sonic matches visually very nicely and has beautiful debuffing capacity.

I will disagree with the previous poster about Dark on a Corruptor, I enjoy mine very much, it is a very safe set due to all the -tohit (which would stack with Time's -tohit and +defense nicely) and self-healing blast, which was recently buffed to be a fairly competent attack on its own. If you are good at aiming Cones it is a solid contender, especially with a Radial DOT Interface and high recharge, you can pretty reliably cycle TT-NF-Repeat.
Dark Pit even has its uses if you can stack it with another stun (probably not applicable to Time). Dark also has the capacity to immob enemies in Time's Patch of No Funsies.

Ice, as several people have said, has it's upsides. Both it's rains are also at full blaster-power on a Defender though, and Defenders get better debuffs on it, so I'd probably also choose Defender for Time/Ice.

I'm personally not a big fan of Radiation Blast, as it's got really anemic damage numbers and even totally procced out is still only at 'meh' levels compared to other options.

Electric is a very mediocre set for damage and its secondary effect is entirely useless for hard content; it also requires completely building around it to make it effective at all even on normal enemy packs.

I would not recommend any Weapon set (Archery, Assault Rifle, Beam Rifle, Dual Pistols) with Time, as it is a VERY active support set and you will be redrawing constantly if you have a weapon to deal with.

I24 Proc Chance = (Enhanced Recharge + Activation Time) * (Current PPM * 1.25) / 60*(1 + .75*(.15*Radius - 0.011*Radius*(360-Arc)/30))
Single Target Radius = 0. AoE Non-Cone Arc = 360.

Ok I never get these kinds of threads it almost seems like a social experiment...seriously.

Er..um.. well yeah I stand by my social experiment statement.

I've got a Time/Electric defender, a Fire/Dark corruptor, a Rad/Kin corruptor, a Sonic/Rad defender, among several others.

The Fire/Dark is one of the most robust characters I have -- I can wade into x8 mobs without fear -- and does a lot of damage.

The Time/Electric defender is even more robust (the only problem she has tanking is getting mezzed, but with Clarion that's only a problem when I forget to use it). The downside is that damage is pretty lacking, though she functions fairly well as a sapper. I wish I had made her Time/Fire, but I'm a sucker for build concepts that are "logical."

The Rad/Kin corruptor was the hardest one to get to like. He was extremely fragile till I softcapped him to S/L. That made him functionally useful, but the damage still seems rather mediocre even with Fulcrum Shift. The -defense in Rad is of little utility these days, as most characters at level 50 use invention sets and they usually have accuracy bonuses coming out the ears.

The Sonic/Rad defender is one I haven't played as much or as recently, but you just don't have the AoE options with Sonic.

With /Time, you've already got a lot of mitigation, so you really don't need secondary effects from your primary, except more damage. Sonic would help give you more damage, but the lack of AoE is huge disadvantage.

The other thing is to consider is the playing style. I haven't looked at the numbers for Corruptors, but my Time/Electric defender is way over the softcap in all three positions with Power Boost. That means I can run into almost any mob--Carnies, Malta, Warworks--and go nuts. If that's the playing style you want, then you need a primary that supports it. And Sonic, though I like it, is for a more methodical playing style, given its heavy control orientation. Fire is best for the "run in and scorch them all" playing style.

As I mentioned before, Rad's secondary effect is mostly worthless. Electric's secondary effect is typically not enough to make a difference in short fights, but in Elite Boss fights it's very easy to completely drain the EB, leaving it able to attack only infrequently.

So, if I were to make a /Time corruptor, I'd go with fire, if I could make the defense numbers come out high enough.

No IOs.
Not incarnate.

Please keep that in mind and make suggestions and comparisons based on that.

Anybody else have experience with corruptor primaries that they would like to share?

Honestly, I have only ever leveled a Radiation Blast corruptor, nothing else.
I need opinions, advantages/disadvantages and strategies, hopefully comparisons also.

Well, my only corruptor of significant level is Fire/Dark (and an absolute BEAST) but I've played Dark Blast and Rad to 50 and Sonic to ~35 on a defender. I'm not as familiar with Time; although I'm currently working on a Dark/Time controller in the mid-20's.

The PBAOE aura of Time seems to be quite powerful so you'll want to be at relatively close range... although it's radius is large enough that you can stay just outside Melee range. Now the question is what you want to do with the character. For straight up damage then unquestionably Fire is best, however that's all that it brings to the table. Sonic brings a considerable amount of -res (even more on a defender) while Dark brings relatively low damage but a lot of -tohit which stacks with several powers in Time. Rad brings a lot of AOE and considerable -def, although that's of more limited utility once the character matures.

On the whole I'd probably lean towards Sonic or Dark for a character I planned to team with as both would be force multipliers for your teammates... one with the -res increasing damage output and the other with the -tohit increasing the team survivability.