Discussion: Featured Items at the Paragon Market - 3/6/12
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Posted on: 2012-03-06 24:47 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
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I'm the opposite. Since I had some leftover points, it made more sense as an impulse purchase - perhaps overpriced but with an assured result - than playing the odds with Super Packs.
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Originally Posted by MaestroMavius
No thanks. I'll buy a few more SuperPacks instead.
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Really? The point isn't if it "fits into the allowance" at all. The issue is that it's drastically higher priced than other, purely fluff powers. I certainly would put the frisbee power on par with costume change animations. You don't NEED them, and they're just kind of fun. And they also required separate animation work. None of them are priced anywhere close to the frisbee power. They're half the price. |
Originally Posted by tanstaafl
I also don't think its badly over priced. Fits in under the allowance nicely, works on every character.
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The devs have an artificially created market with artificially created prices and values. They can throw whatever numbers they want in there, based on what customers seem willing to pay, sure enough. But the system has certain baselines already, and the price of the frisbee is completely out of whack with those.
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WAY overpriced, no sale this time Paragon, so sorry... 
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Its not like I don't often complain about the cost of stuff. I find too much to be over priced on the market. This I don't. |
Originally Posted by Grey Pilgrim
Really? The point isn't if it "fits into the allowance" at all. The issue is that it's drastically higher priced than other, purely fluff powers. I certainly would put the frisbee power on par with costume change animations. You don't NEED them, and they're just kind of fun. And they also required separate animation work. None of them are priced anywhere close to the frisbee power. They're half the price.
The devs have an artificially created market with artificially created prices and values. They can throw whatever numbers they want in there, based on what customers seem willing to pay, sure enough. But the system has certain baselines already, and the price of the frisbee is completely out of whack with those. |
I think under 300 is about right for getting the impulse buy market. You don't get to decide my points. It does fit under the allowance which is much nicer than not fitting under it.
Compare with purely fluff powers? I think you are cherry picking to choose costume change animations (non powers) as the comparison point. Compare with the temp costume powers, the vanity pets, the detoggling vanity travel powers.
But you're right about that you don't NEED it.
I'm all for pargon having things you don't need for purchase. Over priced and dont need is much better than over priced and need.
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Originally Posted by Kheldarn
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Just like the stupid as pancake overpriced extra enhancement trays, I won't be buying this until the price drops or it's on sale for ~66% off. |
This is what surprises me....no sales on the extra enhancement storage spaces?!
Come on devs, you know you want to put both of the extra spaces on sale for at least 50% off
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Your list of fluff powers are pretty much all the ones that drew/draw the most flack for being over-priced, by the way. They're not a good comparison point at all. Not sure how I'm cherry-picking either, when a costume change emote does have an animation and graphics time price tag associated with it.|
Originally Posted by tanstaafl
Its not like I don't often complain about the cost of stuff. I find too much to be over priced on the market. This I don't.
I think under 300 is about right for getting the impulse buy market. You don't get to decide my points. It does fit under the allowance which is much nicer than not fitting under it. Compare with purely fluff powers? I think you are cherry picking to choose costume change animations (non powers) as the comparison point. Compare with the temp costume powers, the vanity pets, the detoggling vanity travel powers. But you're right about that you don't NEED it. I'm all for pargon having things you don't need for purchase. Over priced and dont need is much better than over priced and need. |
Vanity travel powers are going to have added costs just for being travel powers as well--that's going to put them in a higher price point just for affecting gameplay a little more.
Oh, and the New Year's Pack I pointed out earlier? I looked it up to remind myself of its exact cost, and it was 160 points for 3 emotes, an aura, and a costume change emote. Yeah... fair amount of stuff for all of 160 points. If you're interested in the stuff (which holds true for the frisbee as well), you'll get as much if not more use out of them for a smaller amount of points.
Not even sure what to make of "you don't get to decide my points." I wasn't telling you how to spend your money/points, which is also why I said prices for items on the market aren't even necessarily a matter of the monthly stipend. It's a matter of what price makes sense in the system the devs have set up (and players are willing to go with), and this price point does neither.
Undoubtedly people have bought this at the price point, but that doesn't mean it's something many players will like or are willing to do, and doesn't change the easily comparable fact that the Frisbee power is out of whack with the price point for other similar options out there. Spend how you want to spend, but don't tell me that this is a reasonable price, either.
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I bought the Gunslinger set this morning because of the female jackets that were added. Thanks Dink!
I am posting this here because I couldn't find the thread where she announced her additions, and I also had two suggestions related to the pack, the first of which is probably best suited to this thread so Ghost Falcon sees it:
1) I'd like to suggest making the Gunslinger pack a featured item next week, with an updated description to mention the jackets (maybe with a "UPDATED!" in red text). I know several people that skipped the pack because it didn't have a gunslinger outfit for women, and now that it does, hopefully you'll get more sales if you notify people outside of the forums.
2) I'd like to also suggest adding a second Gunslinger option to the Costume Set dropdown in the Character Creator for the ported female parts, for new players to easily find them.
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Y'know, the sad thing is I came here checking the price fully expecting it to be around 400 points. And even though it's way cheaper then that, I have to agree with everyone else that it's still overly expensive.
I'd wait for a sale.... but they don't really put much on sale that often.
Also, I don;t think they really care if we think it's overpriced. They won't change it.
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I think those are very good suggestions!
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Originally Posted by Liquid
I bought the Gunslinger set this morning because of the female jackets that were added. Thanks Dink!
I am posting this here because I couldn't find the thread where she announced her additions, and I also had two suggestions related to the pack, the first of which is probably best suited to this thread so Ghost Falcon sees it: 1) I'd like to suggest making the Gunslinger pack a featured item next week, with an updated description to mention the jackets (maybe with a "UPDATED!" in red text). I know several people that skipped the pack because it didn't have a gunslinger outfit for women, and now that it does, hopefully you'll get more sales if you notify people outside of the forums. 2) I'd like to also suggest adding a second Gunslinger option to the Costume Set dropdown in the Character Creator for the ported female parts, for new players to easily find them. Thanks again to Dink for porting those parts, and thanks GF and others for listening! |
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Being one of the people who skipped the Gunslinger pack for exactly the reasons mentioned. I can get behind those suggestions as well.|
Originally Posted by Liquid
I bought the Gunslinger set this morning because of the female jackets that were added. Thanks Dink!
I am posting this here because I couldn't find the thread where she announced her additions, and I also had two suggestions related to the pack, the first of which is probably best suited to this thread so Ghost Falcon sees it: 1) I'd like to suggest making the Gunslinger pack a featured item next week, with an updated description to mention the jackets (maybe with a "UPDATED!" in red text). I know several people that skipped the pack because it didn't have a gunslinger outfit for women, and now that it does, hopefully you'll get more sales if you notify people outside of the forums. 2) I'd like to also suggest adding a second Gunslinger option to the Costume Set dropdown in the Character Creator for the ported female parts, for new players to easily find them. Thanks again to Dink for porting those parts, and thanks GF and others for listening! |
Personally, I'm in the camp that believes all (or at least most) of the pieces should be available to M/F/H across the board. However, I can recognize a small victory and will accept incremental progress when it comes. Now, I'll probably be picking up the Gunslinger pack in the very near future.
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Agreed.
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Originally Posted by Electric-Knight
I think those are very good suggestions!
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The thing is, I don't even consider the numbers they have on things in the market to be the prices. The real prices (ie what they expect people to actually pay) are those lower numbers they put on them every few months and call a sale.
So, you don't have a regular price and a sale price. Instead, you have a brief normal price and the insane, nutjob price - they just stick different names on them.
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I also put money down on the Gunslinger pack thanks to Dink's hard work revising it (and I'd have bought the Magic and Steampunk ones if I hadn't already).|
Originally Posted by Liquid
I bought the Gunslinger set this morning because of the female jackets that were added. Thanks Dink!
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1) I'd like to suggest making the Gunslinger pack a featured item next week, with an updated description to mention the jackets (maybe with a "UPDATED!" in red text). I know several people that skipped the pack because it didn't have a gunslinger outfit for women, and now that it does, hopefully you'll get more sales if you notify people outside of the forums. 2) I'd like to also suggest adding a second Gunslinger option to the Costume Set dropdown in the Character Creator for the ported female parts, for new players to easily find them. |
Yeah, 250 PP/$3.125 is just too much for the Frisbee. It should be 80 PP/$1.00 tops.
Just like the stupid as pancake overpriced extra enhancement trays, I won't be buying this until the price drops or it's on sale for ~66% off.
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