My catalyst is on the wrong toon :(
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Canine,
Posted on: 2012-02-29 24:55 in The Market and Inventions
Same and yes it's not good.
Agreed. Character Bound = Bad, Account Bad = Good. Shame too, these things had some potential.
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Yep, under the current model Catalysts are .... well I just can't come up with a sufficiently pejorative word that would pass muster with the filters.
This implementation policy seems unbelievalby player hostile. We can only hope that it will be changed, or that Catalysts will turn out to have some other, repeatable, benefit in the near future.
Jak
What makes it particularly annoying is the fact that even if you did want catalysts on that character, the most you will ever need is six. Once you use six on that character, any more you get will be just about useless (I guess you could unslot already improved ATO's and slot new ones from the same set to improve, but that seems silly).
@Quasadu
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Technically you could use 18 - 6 for all three builds. But yes, it sucks.
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Originally Posted by Quasadu
What makes it particularly annoying is the fact that even if you did want catalysts on that character, the most you will ever need is six. Once you use six on that character, any more you get will be just about useless (I guess you could unslot already improved ATO's and slot new ones from the same set to improve, but that seems silly).
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Originally Posted by Shubbie
Im very good at taking a problem and making it worse.
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All of the things listed here need to be heeded by the devs. Making them character bound is expletive expletive expletive........expletive expletive ...expletive expletive expletive expletive!
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
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Oh yeah good point.
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Originally Posted by DarkSideLeague
Technically you could use 18 - 6 for all three builds. But yes, it sucks.
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@Quasadu
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Until the next round of AOs come out....
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Originally Posted by Quasadu
What makes it particularly annoying is the fact that even if you did want catalysts on that character, the most you will ever need is six. Once you use six on that character, any more you get will be just about useless (I guess you could unslot already improved ATO's and slot new ones from the same set to improve, but that seems silly).
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Originally Posted by Chyll
Until the next round of AOs come out....
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Oh, yeah... ATOs that go into an AT's secondary. Or primary if they're a Tank or Defender.
Maybe after that they can make some attuned enhancements that go into the pool powers. Then the epics and patron pool powers will get some.
Seriously, what kind of attuned set could you imagine for... I don't know, Presence or Leadership?
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Why couldn't there be another primary set, too?
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Originally Posted by Coyote_Seven
What could they possibly...?
Oh, yeah... ATOs that go into an AT's secondary. Or primary if they're a Tank or Defender. Maybe after that they can make some attuned enhancements that go into the pool powers. Then the epics and patron pool powers will get some. Seriously, what kind of attuned set could you imagine for... I don't know, Presence or Leadership? |
City of Heroes was my first MMO, & my favorite computer game.
R.I.P.
Chyll - Bydand - Violynce - Enyrgos - Rylle - Nephryte - Solyd - Fettyr - Hyposhock - Styrling - Beryllos - Rosyc
Horryd - Myriam - Dysquiet - Ghyr
Vanysh - Eldrytch
Inflyct - Mysron - Orphyn - Dysmay - Reapyr - - Wyldeman - Hydeous
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The rule of 5 allows for 5 bonuses of the same level.
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Originally Posted by Coyote_Seven
What could they possibly...?
Oh, yeah... ATOs that go into an AT's secondary. Or primary if they're a Tank or Defender. Maybe after that they can make some attuned enhancements that go into the pool powers. Then the epics and patron pool powers will get some. Seriously, what kind of attuned set could you imagine for... I don't know, Presence or Leadership? |
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Or maybe even a MM primary set that isn't a pile of steaming wossname?|
Originally Posted by Coyote_Seven
What could they possibly...?
Oh, yeah... ATOs that go into an AT's secondary. Or primary if they're a Tank or Defender. |
(bitter, me? naaah...)
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If it's a pile of steaming wossname, I haven't really noticed. My bots/traps MM has been able to pretty much shred through almost everything this game can throw at me. Then again, I think I felt that way about it back when only SOs were available. Maybe I'll notice this deficiency with my thugs/poison MM.
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Originally Posted by Canine
Or maybe even a MM primary set that isn't a pile of steaming wossname?
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Yes, Catalysts should be account bound, but, until then...
If you have a Catalyst on a toon that doesn't need it, then get an ATO which that toon can Catalyze and slot it and catalyze it. Then unslot it and use Converters until it's of a type that some other alt can use and email it to that alt (or email it first and let that alt convert it).
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Heh...that's rather roundabout.
I just got one on my Ice/Time controller, and I hadn't really planned on slotting any of the controller set on her. I guess I could check the builds of some of my older ones, but not sure it's worth the trouble.
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Influence Sink: IO Level Mod/Recrafting
Random Merit Rolls: Scale cost by Toon Level
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Apologies, I must have had a brain failure. By MM Primary Set, I meant the MM ATO set, not Bots/Zombies/thugs etc.|
Originally Posted by Coyote_Seven
If it's a pile of steaming wossname, I haven't really noticed. My bots/traps MM has been able to pretty much shred through almost everything this game can throw at me. Then again, I think I felt that way about it back when only SOs were available. Maybe I'll notice this deficiency with my thugs/poison MM.
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Mea culpa.
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I got a few catalyst drops in iTrials on my Tanker, but until they fixthe gauntlet bug, I'm not sure I want to bother with the Might of the Tanker Proc on him let alone catalyze it.
On the other hand my scrapper is getting close to 50, and I'd like to catalyze her ATOs but she hasn't done trials yet and doesn't have any catalyst on hand.
At first I thought I'll just catalyze it on the Tanker and use one of my precious unslotters to take off the Tank and send it to the scrapper, but it's AT specific, so I can't equip it on the Tanks temporarily
I am so down on ATOs atm, between bugs and the difficulty to use them and catalyze them, I' regretting the influence I spent on getting them.
Catalysts should be account-bound, not character bound, the character bound model forces you into picking a "main" that you want all the goodies on, or tediously repeating iTrials with every character in order to get the goodies on the right character.
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