The ATO proc is meh.

I've been playing around with some of the ATO procs, and after a bit I think that this one is a little low on the strength scale.

I have it slotted in wormhole where it currently gives me a 14.19% boost to damage each time I use it. At a third of the set's Aim power's potency, I doubt that this increase in damage actually contributes anything. When paired with my strongest attack (lunge), it does only 18 additional damage, meaning that it has less potency than the interface damage proc.

Right now, I'm favoring the straight up additional damage procs to this one. Is it only me that feels this way?

I'm in favor of it. I have the superior version and I regularly have it stacked 3 times. Which comes out to around +60% damage. More damage is more damage. Than again I'm using fire assault.

Anyone know how long the buff lasts, out of curiosity?

Like Snow said. You want it to proc as often as possible. Slotting it Wormhole was a bit of a goof.

It's probably better to slap it into Crush or Gravity Distortion or some other control power you're using agian in, say, 7 seconds or less.

From what I gather, the only benefit to having it in a slow recharge power is that you have a higher chance of it proccing. However, as Dominators should build for recharge your ST Hold should recharge in 3 or 4 seconds rather than 8 which means you can spam it so often that it ends up proccing anyway (as well as controlling multiple targets if you switch). I think the boost lasts around 30 seconds so you should be able to get and maintain three stacks of it quite easily.

I put this in Arctic Air and have not seen it proc. Is this working as intended?

I have it slotted in Arctic Air and I've seen it proc. Not as often as I would like tho. It checks every 10 seconds.

I'm kind of missing the point myself. If it goes in my ST hold, then I'm supposed to spam that to get a dmg bonus. But if I'm spamming my ST hold, which is slotted for control, then I'm not using my assault powers as much, which are slotted for damage. End result seems to be a wash. More boosts, but lower damage attacks.

For a controller I imagine such a proc would be gold as their controls are their attacks. For a dominator, not so much.

Any of you actually compared your pre-proc build to your post-proc? Are you spamming your ST control more just to get it to proc when you otherwise would have delivered another blast or melee attack? Bottomline: are you defeating enemies faster or not?

Are you wanting the six-slot bonus? If not you could just put the proc in that power, and use the rest of the slots for other things.

Mr_Blaze: It should fire sometime I'm pretty sure, but it's a bit hard to predict on AA. Procs in toggles get a chance to fire once every ten seconds. SBE and ATO procs have a lower chance to fire in an AoE than they do on single-target powers. (Although the effect seems more lenient than I was expecting.) But I don't know how toggles would work in terms of the "per minute" baseline, since the recharge isn't really a determining factor there.

I'm doing some testing on various proc frequencies on beta; you've got me curious, so I'm copying my ice dom over to try it out. But I'd be kind of surprised if it's not more useful to put it in a frequently-used click power.

Edit: Okay, put this proc into AA, stood in the middle of a group of 8-10 test dummies for about ten minutes. AA's hit rolls aren't shown in a normal way, which makes it hard to determine an actual percentage... but I saw the message for it 11 times in that period. I'm not especially impressed.

Tried it some in Frostbite, despite that being something I'll not likely want to use. Based on comparing the rates on a single mob vs. on a group, I think this may only have a chance to fire once per click. (I've heard the same of one of the other ATOs too, I think.) Probably not helpign any with regards to AA.

Also, why is the game perfectly happy to let my Plant dom put this thing in Strangler, but won't let my ice dom put it in Block of Ice? That seems wrong.

-Morgan.

So, I have done some testing with this proc, and it turns out that the proc is quite misleading in it's description.

It turns out that the ATO proc doesn't change frequency depending on the recharge of the power you put it in. It works nearly every time in a power that has an 8 second recharge on it. Rather, there is a "stacking limit" that the power goes through. So this proc is actually best off not with the rest of the set (ranged defense be damned).

Interesting. I hadn't actually tried it in Strangler, so I went ahead and did that. 135/172. That's a rate I would expect to see for a proc rated for 6 ppm, if I'm understanding the way Arbiter Hawk explained it properly.

-Morgan.

I've got mine slotted in Mind's ST hold. I am not perma'd yet (39) but at most i see 2 icons indicating stacking. i thought I read it could stack up to 3 times. I need to open a +dam monitor window for more exactness I know. I think my main problem is that I do not use Mind's tier 1, and the tier 2 is less convenient for me to spam. It is not super fast animation or recharge, so feels clunky.

2 questions. 1) How often can this thing stack in theory and in practice how often have people been stacking it. 2) What is the most efficient power people have found to put it in?

I think it goes very well in char and dominate because they are so quick activating that it doesn't slow you down at all. It is maybe not a big deal in a normal mission but helps I find if trying to pummel an AV into submission.

For gravity, I think putting it in a damage proc'd AOE immob is probably a good bet (although I am always underwhelmed by the damage of the proc'd out aoe immob in gravity.)

Does everyone here have the superior version of the proc? I haven't upgraded mine yet and unfortunately, it doesn't proc very often for me at all. I put it in roots on my plant dom which i spam, but I've only seen it stack once. Just unlucky? Or does the Superior version make a big difference on that front?

I put the proc in subdue on my mind/psy, and I can say this does help damage pretty well. I'm more surprised when it doesn't go off than when it does, and as subdue is part of my attack chain, the proc has a constant triple stack. I am looking forward to catalyzing it, but haven't done so yet as I need 5 of those for the AT set first.

It doesn't seem to be very good in the AoE immobilizes. I tested it on one on the beta server and had a 17% proc rate. (This was against a single target, so that the only-once-per-click factor wouldn't throw off the results.)

I don't know. I'm just not seeing anywhere I really like this for my Plant dom, and the Ice one is even worse.

-Morgan.

I actually originally put the proc in dominate, but moved it to subdue as that 6th slot was a freebie and I just use subdue more. But as noted in another thread, the proc still works with a +5 boosted purple damage along with a basilisk's gaze in just about any ST hold from the primary. This way you get decent control slotting, (also boostable if you desire) decent damage, (~66%) and boosted damage for everything else.

It just takes getting used to using the hold as an attack too, unless that's been your thing already. I'm just more used to using holds as intermittent controls, but to each their own. This proc is basically just best used in your most often used power that it can fit in so you can get all spammy with it.

Hey guys any input on where I should slot the proc on a Elec/NRG dom?