Paragonwiki has the set bonuses for the non-upgraded set: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Scrapper%27s_Strike
The Superior set has the same bonuses, but larger.
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ATOs, not ATIOs - These are not invented, they are 'found' or bought.
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Set Bonuses (according to the wikis)
(2) Increases maximum health by 1.5%.
(3) Increases lethal and smashing defense by 2.5% and melee defense by 1.25%.
(4) Increases damage by 2.5%.
(5) Improves the Recharge Time of all of your powers by 8.75%.
(6) Increases Smashing and Lethal resistance by 2.21%.
I think the Superior versions roughly double, or slightly less than double, these numbers.
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Only first two lines (2 and 3 ) are doubled. Recharge is %10 ,s/l res is %2.52 and damage is %4 for purple.
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Originally Posted by Xyzor
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ATOs, not ATIOs - These are not invented, they are 'found' or bought. /end_nitpick Set Bonuses (according to the wikis) (2) Increases maximum health by 1.5%. (3) Increases lethal and smashing defense by 2.5% and melee defense by 1.25%. (4) Increases damage by 2.5%. (5) Improves the Recharge Time of all of your powers by 8.75%. (6) Increases Smashing and Lethal resistance by 2.21%. I think the Superior versions roughly double, or slightly less than double, these numbers. |
There was some ambiguity about whether you could slot three pieces of the superior set in two different powers or if you had to have all six slots in the same power but only three upgraded to superior if you wanted to double up on s/l defense - anyone know definitively?
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I tested that on beta last week by slotting all 6 purple Scrapper's Strike split between 2 powers, Impale and Ripper (3 and 3). I had 2 ultimate increased health bonuses (6% total) and 2 ultimate increased defense in S/L (10% total) and melee (5% total).
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Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle
There was some ambiguity about whether you could slot three pieces of the superior set in two different powers or if you had to have all six slots in the same power but only three upgraded to superior if you wanted to double up on s/l defense - anyone know definitively?
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If you have two PBAOE's, this combo with two sets of three eradications is quite attractive.|
Originally Posted by ricohdah
I tested that on beta last week by slotting all 6 purple Scrapper's Strike split between 2 powers, Impale and Ripper (3 and 3). I had 2 ultimate increased health bonuses (6% total) and 2 ultimate increased defense in S/L (10% total) and melee (5% total).
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The other 'sweet spot' as I see it is to slot 3 purple ATO's and three normal ATO's in the same power, for 7.5 percent defense. This would let you replace a set of Kinetic Combat and an Obliteration with two purple sets, for the +recharge.
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Sounds good. Looking forward to saving slots. Often when I build for S/L, I use Boxing and/or Brawl as a mule for Kinetic Combats. Also changing my 4 slot Reactive Armors to 3 (For the bonus 1.25% S/L def). I will figure it all out when i22 arrives and Mids' is updated.
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Originally Posted by mauk2
If you have two PBAOE's, this combo with two sets of three eradications is quite attractive.
The other 'sweet spot' as I see it is to slot 3 purple ATO's and three normal ATO's in the same power, for 7.5 percent defense. This would let you replace a set of Kinetic Combat and an Obliteration with two purple sets, for the +recharge. |
I didnt want make a separate thread, so I'll ask here:
The scrapper "proc" seems to function as long as its slotted - a flat increase in crit-rate, or does one have to use the power to have it chance to go-off then increases the crit rate of subsequent attacks? Seems like its an always-on deal, but I can be... mechanically challanged.
Edit: Well not a "flat" increase (percetage increased crit rate), but I'm questioning the mechanism not the math.
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Its not proc its a global bonus (like you said its not a flat one but enhance the actual rate) so it increase critical chance as long as its slotted for all powers that can crit.
I haven't had time to invest in the IOs yet to test for myself - Can you slot 1 set of the base enhancements and 1 set of the upgraded versions? Or is the unique flag linked between both normal and Superior, meaning you can only have 6 AT IOs in a character at a time?
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Only 6.
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Originally Posted by Paladin
I haven't had time to invest in the IOs yet to test for myself - Can you slot 1 set of the base enhancements and 1 set of the upgraded versions? Or is the unique flag linked between both normal and Superior, meaning you can only have 6 AT IOs in a character at a time?
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Looks like it's 3 in one power and 3 in another for me, then. Thanks Psychic.
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Set Bonus is nice AT IO but the crit chance thingy even at superior i don't feel any difference did use headsplitter many times without and many times with it didn't really see the difference between 15% or 21% feels to me more a slot filler to get the set bonus a damage proc is even more useful.
Right now the critical bonus effect is semi-broken. The fixes for that will go live with issue 22.
Also it seems crit chance will increase even more in i22 or at least it looks that way on announcement.
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Well, the difference between 15% and 21% is small enough that it's very difficult to notice by just eyeballing it. It is definitely there, though, and it's roughly comparable to slotting a normal IO damage proc in every attack.
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Originally Posted by Dizzy_Dazzler
Set Bonus is nice AT IO but the crit chance thingy even at superior i don't feel any difference did use headsplitter many times without and many times with it didn't really see the difference between 15% or 21% feels to me more a slot filler to get the set bonus a damage proc is even more useful.
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Was today on test server they changed the IO i have no lvl 50 there to test but the normal one has 2% agians minions and underlings and 4% to the rest does the superior go too 4% and 8% if any one tested it ?
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The Superior version should be 3%/6%, according to Synapse.
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Seems like a flat 5% DPS increase with the superior version then, not bad. Brutes still have it better though, with about a 15% DPS increase assuming they slot their proc in a commonly used attack and they have no extra damage buffs.
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Originally Posted by Hopeling
The Superior version should be 3%/6%, according to Synapse.
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Originally Posted by Auroxis
Seems like a flat 5% DPS increase with the superior version then, not bad. Brutes still have it better though, with about a 15% DPS increase assuming they slot their proc in a commonly used attack and they have no extra damage buffs.
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This is mostly true but don't forget that critical applies to last calculation of damage not base damage so more damage buff a scrapper gets increase the dps ratio as well.
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Originally Posted by Kangstor
This is mostly true but don't forget that critical applies to last calculation of damage not base damage so more damage buff a scrapper gets increase the dps ratio as well.
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Originally Posted by Auroxis
Seems like a flat 5% DPS increase with the superior version then, not bad. Brutes still have it better though, with about a 15% DPS increase assuming they slot their proc in a commonly used attack and they have no extra damage buffs.
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Originally Posted by Hopeling
The Superior version should be 3%/6%, according to Synapse.
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Please mention to people in-game who are considering it as well:
Superior Scrapper's Strike: Recharge/Critical Hit Bonus is BROKEN and does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
(except for the recharge enhancement to the power your slot it in)
This is a known issue, and is already fixed on beta, but the fix probably won't hit live servers until Issue 22.
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Well saying to not upgrade it is a little bit extreme since most people are just frankensloting set for nice %10 s/l defense or %5 melee defense (heck I even see someone frankenslotting it for %9 max hp in three powers) so not upgrading it won't let you get the set bonuses.|
Originally Posted by Codewalker
Also, if anyone is considering upgrading it, DO NOT DO SO UNTIL ISSUE 22 IS LIVE!
Please mention to people in-game who are considering it as well: Superior Scrapper's Strike: Recharge/Critical Hit Bonus is BROKEN and does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING (except for the recharge enhancement to the power your slot it in) This is a known issue, and is already fixed on beta, but the fix probably won't hit live servers until Issue 22. |
And sixth bonus in the set is not bad either %2.52 s/l resist (its overshadowed by defense bonus though)
I am having some trouble tracking down the specifics on set bonuses that these will have can someone link where it lists them or list them here either way thanks.
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