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I distinctly remember the Mac Excel having 3 less functions than the Windows Excel. I can't remember which, I just remember being very upset when I found out they weren't cross-platform functions.
There's been a long history of a lot of scripting options being completely unavailable in Mac versions of Microsoft Office. A large number of Excel spreadsheets are completely DOA on Mac Office because of this, since advanced Excel stuff will almost invariably involve some vbscript.

For things like that, something like VMWare Fusion or Parallels is invaluable.


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I plan on trying to run the game on the MBA at some point. I've been told that if you turn the settings all the way down, the intel GPU chipset won't explode.

The main concern I've got with using MS Office vs. iWork is compatibility issues with other folks here in the office. We do a lot of document sharing and everyone else is using MS based systems as their laptops.

That's cool for them, but for me this represents broadening myself professionally on multiple levels since a lot of social media development is being done for OSx these days.

That and I tried the Ultrabooks and wasn't super impressed.


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In your experience, does the office suite for Mac perform well?
MS Office is about as sluggish and obnoxious as it is on Windows.

I use Pages and Numbers myself just because they start up quickly and don't clog up the screen with unnecessary crap just to write a one-page thing.


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I plan on trying to run the game on the MBA at some point. I've been told that if you turn the settings all the way down, the intel GPU chipset won't explode.
Don't turn them ALL the way down, if you turn them below "recommended", then Cider switches to software rendering which is even more CPU intensive.


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The main concern I've got with using MS Office vs. iWork is compatibility issues with other folks here in the office. We do a lot of document sharing and everyone else is using MS based systems as their laptops.
I have people send me Word and Excel documents all the time, and I haven't had one fail to open yet. There's a first for everything, though.


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In your experience, does the office suite for Mac perform well?
I think it does. And probably more stable than windows constant freezes



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I think it does. And probably more stable than windows constant freezes
If you're getting constant freezes in Windows you're doing it wrong.



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Biggest problem with iWork is when people who use it email all their friends a .pages file, or try to submit a paper to their professor, and nobody can open them.

I know the Mac interface tries to make things as simple as possible, but I wish they would emphasize the "export to PDF" option a bit more, and encourage users to understand what file formats are.


 

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Ah, so Zwillinger is using the hero skin, too.

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Couple thoughts:
1. NeoOffice, I think, is the MacOS-friendly port of OpenOffice. I have had better luck with this than with the official MS Office suite for Mac. MUCH better. MS Office had failure modes that, on careful consideration, I don't think I could duplicate on purpose if you gave me a week to try to create them.
I find that the latest version of MS Office for the Mac, the 2011 version, does work quite well. Earlier versions were sometimes very buggy and more importantly, incompatible with the Windows version of MS Office! I've also used the OpenOffice version for OSX, haven't tried NeoOffice or LibreOffice. It works just as well as on Linux or Windows, so it's kind of nice if you use all three operating systems, like I do.
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2. Don't expect CoH to run well on the Air; no video card to speak of.
I think this is true. I don't think the Air can run CoH. I have a Macbook Pro with the AMD Radeon HD 6750M 512 MB and can run CoH in Ultra mode 1680x1050, but my old Macbook has an 8600GT and can't run Ultra mode. I think the Air's graphics power is more comparable to that one.
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3. If you do want to run City, you may get better luck with Crossover Games than you do with the cider wrapper, though that won't solve the ncsoft launcher problem.
I don't need Crossover or anything like that. I use the NC launcher and game download from the website and it works perfectly. It uses some wrapper around a windows install, is that what you mean with the cider wrapper? I find that it works fine as offered from the official website.
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4. Be ready for some reframing-of-questions. There are a lot of things where the difference between the Mac and Windows ways isn't that one sucks and the other is great, but just that they reward very different cognitive approaches.
This is true. For example when OSX asks you if you want to replace something, it does mean what it says. It doesn't do a merge like Windows. but I find that OSX was really easy to adjust to, as it's design is very consistent and minimized the times it bothers the user.
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5. If you want to use IM stuff, the program is Adium. I know a lot of Mac users, and the blunt fact is, none of them have mentioned any other IM program. Yes, it really is that much nicer.
I only use Skype so I don't know.
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6. If you do serious writing, look into Scrivener.
I don't know that one, but then I don't do much serious writing at the moment. LaTex has a MacTeX install, which I use in those cases.
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7. Mail program? MailMate is the one I would recommend.
I've got the default GroupWise client from work that I have to live with and otherwise use mostly webmail.
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8. USE TIME MACHINE. It's totally worth it.
I completely agree. Especially if you can do it over a (wireless) network and not an USB disk. I've got a NAS from QNAP which supports TimeMachine, and it's really easy and nice.
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9. If you like more details and status, iStat Menus is pretty good at stuff like CPU temperatures and fan speeds.
I've got this thing called Temperature Monitor. I was worried about temperatures in the laptop, if I played for an entire evening. But as long as you don't restrict airflow, the temperature seems to be ok (70-80 C) even after hours of gaming.
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10. Learn to program it. The programmability of the machine is something amazing.
Not really needed, although it does have a fully functioning Unix underneath with python and lot's of other nice stuff.
I program for a living, but I don't specifically use the Macbook for that, it's nice that it runs nearly all the tools that are available for Linux, as that's the platform I do most of my programming on, but otherwise, I use it as a normal desktop.


 

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There's been a long history of a lot of scripting options being completely unavailable in Mac versions of Microsoft Office. A large number of Excel spreadsheets are completely DOA on Mac Office because of this, since advanced Excel stuff will almost invariably involve some vbscript.

For things like that, something like VMWare Fusion or Parallels is invaluable.
I think this is still an issue. I mostly use Word and PowerPoint, but I indeed think that the VB scripts don't work on the OSX version.

But for MS Office 2010/2011, I've at least not gotten any compatibility issues between the OSX and Windows version, like I had with the 2003/2004 and 2007/2008, where a .doc file written in MS Office 2003 format in MS Office 2004 for Mac would just not render properly in MS Office 2003 and vice-versa.

In general I found that before Office 2011, OpenOffice was often more compatible with MS Office than MS Office itself.


 

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I agree with most of what RogerWilco said.

I understand a lot of people's preference for streamlined simplicity of iWork. For personal use I would certainly recommend those. But if you do a lot of file sharing with coworkers then Office is definitely the way to go. Office 2011 is very stable and reliable. If you will still be using Windows computers off and on, then the similarity between the apps will help a lot.

I couldn't function in my job without a VM package like Fusion or Parallels. I would not encourage its use on an Air though. If you still have a Windows work desktop computer then remote controlling it would likely better serve your needs. MS Office includes the Windows RDC client. Though I think it may even be available as a download from MS' website.

I think you will be tearing your hat to shreds in annoyance for the first couple months with this computer. At some point in the next 6 months you'll wonder how you ever survived without it.

Finally buy a big external USB hard drive and a large powered USB hub you can keep on your desk at work. Hook up a USB keyboard and mouse to it as well. Time Machine is one of the best implementations of a backup system you can possibly imagine. USE IT!


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I have the 2010 13" Air with the NVidia 230m I think and it runs COH really well on standard settings at 1440x900 native resolution. Z will have to let us know how the 2011 Air performs with integrated graphics. I'm hoping I can stick with future generations of the Air as it's by far the best computer I've ever owned. So fast, quiet, light, and fun. No wonder it has sold so well.


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For what it's worth, I've got an HP laptop with Intel graphics running WinXP from a few years back that was able to run City (sooorta) around 2008. Of course, with all the shaders turned off, it looks like a completely different game.. And I don't know how fill-rate intensive the new Atlas Park is compared to the old one. I know CoV zones really made it cry due to the unfortunate degree of overdraw.


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I think this is still an issue. I mostly use Word and PowerPoint, but I indeed think that the VB scripts don't work on the OSX version.

The Office 2011 version of Excel returned VB scripting functionality (which had been ripped out of Office 2008 for some reason). Here is the post on the MSDN blog:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/nadyne/archi...ffice-mac.aspx

Now, whether it actually does or not, I have no personal experience with. But, it's supposed to.


 

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I have the 2010 13" Air with the NVidia 230m I think and it runs COH really well on standard settings at 1440x900 native resolution. Z will have to let us know how the 2011 Air performs with integrated graphics. I'm hoping I can stick with future generations of the Air as it's by far the best computer I've ever owned. So fast, quiet, light, and fun. No wonder it has sold so well.
I'm running COH on a 2011 13" MBA right now. Stick to recommended settings and you should be ok. The fans will rev up during play but it runs very smooth, although graphic quality isn't top-end. It does run better in Boot Camp however. And I've got the 256 SSD so load times are super fast.

IWork isn't a replacement for Office for Mac. Not by a long shot.